Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

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This is California where internal combustion engines are going to cause problems. Emissions, noise, name it, they probably aren't allowed.

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I wish we could arrest the negress mayor of LA and Gavin Newsom for manslaughter and negligence charges. This is as blatant of a manmade disaster as you can get. The only way this could be more blatant is if these scumbag politicians had personally given orders to set the fires.

Newsom is done politically as well because there's too much out there. This was probably posted previously (or maybe not since it doesn't appear to be archived) but an X user took an excerpt from a speech Newsom gave in 2021 related to fire preparedness.

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Here's a local archive of the video as well since I'm not sure if it's just me or if ghost archive is having issues with the video.

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This is also bringing a lot of attention back to the Camp Fire that destroyed the town of Paradise and Newsom's actions in the wake of that fire. He might still try to run for President in 2028, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were to lose California in the primaries. I had generally written him off since his own state tried to recall him during COVID, but there were some people who still considered him the frontrunner in 2028. If the entire state government were incompetent, he might have been able to pull off a successful recovery and ride on that wave, but that's not going to happen and the area will still be a mess by the time he leaves office.

I want to believe you're right but Newsom has such a political machine behind him that his only hurdle is clearing the Democrat primaries. Once he gets past that, and odds are he won't, he stands a great chance at winning the presidency because the media is so corrupt and can just scream REEEEEE ABORTION OUR DEMOCRACY RUSSIA FAR-RIGHT MISINFORMATION and put the Democrats within the threshold to win the election with fraud.

 

[Drip Torch]

Blowing towards south east

I meant SW first. My bad. Thats more open ground, hopefully keeping the fire from the strip of forest that runs north to south. Overall wind direction is one thing, windspeeds at ground level and through the terrain can be completely unpredictable.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Pretty sure Gavin's termed out so he could give a flying fuck,

literally has two years if he's not recalled which might end up happening again.

The former mansion of Max Hardcore (if you know you know) at 1333 Pleasantridge Dr, Altadena, has likely been completely burned down.

yeah Altadena is middle class, that sucks

 

[TrinityReformed]

Fire is fighting back. Multiple firefighter vehicles lost.

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Reminds me of that scene where the subway train melted from magma in a volcano movie.

 

[The handsome tard]

I wonder if anything will be learned from this. On one side, this is absolutely disasterous and the public will be thirsty for blood and for actual measures to be taken but on the other side...

"Entropy wins. Entropy always wins..."

 

[CEO of Gay]

Probably not. Most things such as Water Authorities are independent boards, often elected, and subject to state not city oversight. They are like School Boards.

I guess I had assumed that since each city in my area has their own water authority, that water authorities were usually under the mayor. I have seen school board positions on the local ballot, but never anything that sounded like a water board or other kind of utility board.

I have research to do.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Fire is fighting back. Multiple firefighter vehicles lost.

I wonder how many vehicles 17 Million dollars can pay for...

On a somewhat related note, I live in a rural county in an undetermined area, but this undetermined rural county does not play around with fire safety. They still have the fire truck they bought in the 1920's in perfect working order. Its more a show piece now, but can still do the needful if absolutely necessary.

Speaking of absolutely necessary, the vast majority of the county is on well water, but the nearby major water source has a single solitary pumping station, that feeds a few pipes that reach into the areas of the county that are not near any major water sources. All the major pump trucks are issued 2,000 meters of hoses, so that if absolutely necessary, they connect to one of the isolated system nodes in the county for fire fighting. I've even seen it deployed. They have the hoses piled into what looks like a horse trailer pulled by an F-150, and they head out with the stuff when an isolated fire breaks out.

This system was installed at great expense through local taxes. But it definitely works. We've not had a forest fire in almost half a century,. The observation towers are derelict and unmanned at this point. Maybe a mistake, but they were installed prior to the installation of the fire prevention system. Does any California county have anything similar?

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

I wonder if anything will be learned from this.

It's Cali so no, nothing will.

 

[Alter Ego]

Mayoral report delayed supposedly because Mayor Bass suddenly called Fire Chief Crowley to a meeting due to the shittalking Crowley gave on interview about Bass earlier today.

 

[Oeselian Chad]

Never mind, Forward progress has been stopped and OC Club fire will soon be snuffed.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Kenneth now 50% contained.

Palisades and Eaton have not budged either way with percent contained.

 

[Drip Torch]

I wonder how many vehicles 17 Million dollars can pay for...

On a somewhat related note, I live in a rural county in an undetermined area, but this undetermined rural county does not play around with fire safety. They still have the fire truck they bought in the 1920's in perfect working order. Its more a show piece now, but can still do the needful if absolutely necessary.

Speaking of absolutely necessary, the vast majority of the county is on well water, but the nearby major water source has a single solitary pumping station, that feeds a few pipes that reach into the areas of the county that are not near any major water sources. All the major pump trucks are issued 2,000 meters of hoses, so that if absolutely necessary, they connect to one of the isolated system nodes in the county for fire fighting.

This system was installed at great expense through local taxes. But it definitely works. We've not had a forest fire in almost half a century,. The observation towers are derelict and unmanned at this point. Maybe a mistake, but they were installed prior to the installation of the fire prevention system. Does any California county have anything similar?

I want fire towers back so bad. Ours just houses our radio repeaters now. Cali still uses fire towers to an extent but, are not of use when the fire occurs at the wildland-urban intereface.

 

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Just now saw this elsewhere, but a local was already passing along "Code Turtledove" because of it.

What is "Code Turtledove?"

This shit makes me super mad. Tortoises are chill and slow growing and don't hurt anyone. So "naw fuck taking this 60 year old creature with us, need to bring by fuzzies. He's ok in his burrow.

To give her the benefit of the doubt, if he was in his burrow it might have been impossible to get him out in time. He might also have been simply too big to get him into a vehicle to transport him.

My uncle, who lives in a nicer part of LA, also received this warning, yet the fires are roughly 18 miles from his house.

This is one of the most inept and confused disaster responses I have ever seen. Are the politicians on the same crack and heroine that the homeless of LA are taking?

The unspoken part of the presser where the alert went off in the middle of it is that some external actor has control of the alert system. I.e., someone's password was leaked or the API is open somehow and people are fucking with it. They don't want to admit it publicly, obviously, but if you listen to what they were saying and the Naruto-man was signing, especially if you've got any experience in IT and listening to corpo fucks trying to talk AROUND major IT failures.... yeah.

The state of California has lost control of the emergency alert system.

 

[YouGuysAren'tThatSmart]

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Will we get murderous inmates killing DEI hires with chainsaws?

Fire is fighting back. Multiple firefighter vehicles lost.

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Maybe those fire engines shouldn't have been there in the first place.

 

[Drip Torch]

I wonder if anything will be learned from this. On one side, this is absolutely disasterous and the public will be thirsty for blood and for actual measures to be taken but on the other side...

"Entropy wins. Entropy always wins..."

Nature is a bitch and will fuck ya up everytime.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I guess I had assumed that since each city in my area has their own water authority, that water authorities were usually under the mayor. I have seen school board positions on the local ballot, but never anything that sounded like a water board or other kind of utility board.

I have research to do.

It may be that the Water Authority is an appointed board. With each member having a fixed term that cannot be removed by someone like the mayor. There are a few different ways they are done. But they are typically theoretically structured to be independent commissions not subject to direct executive meddling.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

The question we are all asking, of course, is: is this a mostly peaceful forest fire?

 

[Drip Torch]

They drink copious amounts of water too, from what I understand. And shed copious amounts of leaves.

Too add to the problem, leaf litter breaks down slower in dry climates, so there is more fast burning fuel on the ground.

 

[TheRedChair]

I'll place this here and I agree with most of this stuff they are talking.

 

[obsdj]

Mayoral report delayed supposedly because Mayor Bass suddenly called Fire Chief Crowley to a meeting due to the shittalking Crowley gave on interview about Bass earlier today.

The Fire Chief has been fired.