Containment What If?

What if we had an unlimited amount of money and created a completely controlled environment in which to restructure his thought process? Everyone would be actors and/or mental health professionals.

1) separate Chris from his environment and bring him on some controlled facility on an island. He is cleaned, given a haircut and functional uniforms. he is made to share space with actors in these barracks. they will be instructed not to mock him, but to support and admonish him. this will hopefully allow him to bond with others in a similar situation or observe positive peer role modeling.

2) all meals requires a very modest expenditure of effort. the food is healthy and nutritious, which will hopefully improve his mood. Example, a turkey burger will be positioned on the third floor. some orange juice on the fourth floor. he must climb the stairs and perform simple exercise to eat.

3) all "creature comforts" such as a comfy bed, paper and art supplies, legos etc. require human cooperation to acquire. He will need to demonstrate functional understanding of empathy. example, he has to help a black kid with his Pokemons, has to work together with others to simultaneously turn a key to unveil rewards, lift heavy objects with others. occasionally, some sort of faked external threat will occur and everyone will have to rush to battle stations.
this will provide a response for teamwork and reward.

3) Other rewards will be provided based on accomplishing a small job. He seems capable and somewhat loving of the Chandler pets, so he will be given the duties of maintaining a living area, caring for and feeding some domestic animals.

4) interaction will be provided with the opposite sex, who are trained for the task. they will provide positive reinforcement and firm boundaries. smiles, arm touches, sustained eye contact, lengthened verbal communication. Whenever he acts in an appropriate manner. otherwise, they will immediately instruct him on proper responses and disengage. later the same situation will be brought up and he will have a chance to correct his behavior. He will also observe his fellow male comrades interact with the actresses in a positive manner.

5) there will be no electronics or internet. no communication with Barb.

6) as a final resort, rules may be enforced by corporal punishment.

7) this routine will go on for 1 year.
 
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just some jerk said:
What if we had an unlimited amount of money and created a completely controlled environment in which to restructure his thought process? Everyone would be actors and/or mental health professionals.

1) separate Chris from his environment and bring him on some controlled facility on an island. He is cleaned, given a haircut and functional uniforms. he is made to share space with actors in these barracks. they will be instructed not to mock him, but to support and admonish him. this will hopefully allow him to bond with others in a similar situation or observe positive peer role modeling.

2) all meals requires a very modest expenditure of effort. the food is healthy and nutritious, which will hopefully improve his mood. Example, a turkey burger will be positioned on the third floor. some orange juice on the fourth floor. he must climb the stairs and perform simple exercise to eat.

3) all "creature comforts" such as a comfy bed, paper and art supplies, legos etc. require human cooperation to acquire. He will need to demonstrate functional understanding of empathy. example, he has to help a black kid with his Pokemons, has to work together with others to simultaneously turn a key to unveil rewards, lift heavy objects with others. occasionally, some sort of faked external threat will occur and everyone will have to rush to battle stations.
this will provide a response for teamwork and reward.

3) Other rewards will be provided based on accomplishing a small job. He seems capable and somewhat loving of the Chandler pets, so he will be given the duties of maintaining a living area, caring for and feeding some domestic animals.

4) interaction will be provided with the opposite sex, who are trained for the task. they will provide positive reinforcement and firm boundaries. smiles, arm touches, sustained eye contact, lengthened verbal communication. Whenever he acts in an appropriate manner. otherwise, they will immediately instruct him on proper responses and disengage. later the same situation will be brought up and he will have a chance to correct his behavior. He will also observe his fellow male comrades interact with the actresses in a positive manner.

5) there will be no electronics or internet. no communication with Barb.

6) as a final resort, rules may be enforced by corporal punishment.

7) this routine will go on for 1 year.
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C'mon man, this is chris. He'd shit himself and do nothing.
 
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Chikinballs said:
Yeah, i think a traditional boot camp would be better. Maybe he would learn what hardship really is.
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CatParty said:
Nah he'd shit himself and do nothing.
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If you try that in boot camp (assuming it's Marine Corps boot camp, I have no idea what it's like in any of the other branches) it arguably gets worse for you. They don't just kick you out the door, you get transferred to a special platoon where they put all the other screw ups, and the drill instructors there do everything they can to make your life miserable. If you don't shape up after several weeks, then you get to leave.

Of course, this is all second hand knowledge, and I could be completely wrong.

Additionally, though, I should say that I feel like people get the wrong idea about boot camp. Boot camp can't really teach you anything about discipline unless you're open to learning. All that would happen from Chris going to boot camp is that he'd get stress from all the jerkop-like drill instructors yelling at his face and then crash into slumber every night until he can leave.
 
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Chikinballs said:
Yeah, i think a traditional boot camp would be better. Maybe he would learn what hardship really is.
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I thought about the regular military, but they'd get sick of his antics and eventually kick him out.

If I had an unlimited amount of resources and manpower solely dedicated to Chris, everyone would have to play it out!
 
You can't teach Chris to not be Chris.

The boot camp would be the way to fix him. I mean, I don't mean specifically a boot camp, but just forcing him to get a job, get an apartment, etc and not giving him any choices in the matter.

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All that would happen from Chris going to boot camp is that he'd get stress from all the jerkop-like drill instructors yelling at his face and then crash into slumber every night until he can leave.
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See, like this? Yeah, with what I'm proposing, Chris doesn't get to leave. And that's how you fix Chris. Or, well, not really fix, he's unfixable at this point. But just make it so he can survive post-Barb, at least.
 
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Marvin said:
You can't teach Chris to not be Chris.

The boot camp would be the way to fix him. I mean, I don't mean specifically a boot camp, but just forcing him to get a job, get an apartment, etc and not giving him any choices in the matter.


See, like this? Yeah, with what I'm proposing, Chris doesn't get to leave. And that's how you fix Chris. Or, well, not really fix, he's unfixable at this point. But just make it so he can survive post-Barb, at least.
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agreed. all the other "what ifs" left some free will for Chris. But in this hypothetical we have the power to force him to participate in our "therapeutic boot camp island", so he can't just lurch home. and we wouldn't give up in white knight frustration as hypothetically everyone involved is uh paid very well.

say he's throwing a hissy fit and not eating. we place some food on the top of a hill. eventually his shriveled survival instinct would get him to trudge up that hill?

I know I'm naive compared to harded Chrisologists but I think just getting him cleaned up, eating decently, away from his mom and vidya for a sustained period of time may incite small changes.
 
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agreed. all the other "what ifs" left some free will for Chris. But in this hypothetical we have the power to force him to participate in our "therapeutic boot camp island", so he can't just lurch home. and we wouldn't give up in white knight frustration as hypothetically everyone involved is uh paid very well.

say he's throwing a hissy fit and not eating. we place some food on the top of a hill. eventually his shriveled survival instinct would get him to trudge up that hill?

I know I'm naive compared to harded Chrisologists but I think just getting him cleaned up, eating decently, away from his mom and vidya for a sustained period of time may incite small changes.
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He wouldn't starve to death, no.

But yeah, getting him cleaned up, eating well and away from Barb and video games would change Chris in the way that he'd be clean, healthier and away from Barb and video games. But when he goes home, he'd get filthy again, go back to mcdonalds and return to Barb and video games. It's more that he's escaping you than he is returning to 14BC life.
 
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