Containment What If?

Marvin said:
He wouldn't starve to death, no.

But yeah, getting him cleaned up, eating well and away from Barb and video games would change Chris in the way that he'd be clean, healthier and away from Barb and video games. But when he goes home, he'd get filthy again, go back to mcdonalds and return to Barb and video games. It's more that he's escaping you than he is returning to 14BC life.
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If you somehow got him to understand being clean, in shape, and responsible would gain him friends and possibly some ass, he would still say fuck it?
 
Marvin said:
That's like telling him if he became gay, he could have friends and maybe a girlfriend.
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jesus christ, man.

so, its not that he doesnt understand....he is actively, consiously opposed to lifting a fucking finger even though it means a better life?

if thats the case fuck him. he deserves everything shitty that has occurred thusfar. he chose it.
 
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Chikinballs said:
jesus christ, man.

so, its not that he doesnt understand....he is actively, consiously opposed to lifting a fucking finger even though it means a better life?
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He wanted a magic pill to stop him from crapping himself instead of changing his diet. So yes. This is also a perfect example of "shitting himself and doing nothing"
 
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CatParty said:
He wanted a magic pill to stop him from crapping himself instead of changing his diet. So yes. This is also a perfect example of "shitting himself and doing nothing"
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im not familiar enough with the physics behind mental disorders and shitting your pants. i do know my diet was very much like his for a number of years, and i was a fat, sweaty individual. i never once shit myself though. would a better diet help an hfa like himself?
 
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Chikinballs said:
jesus christ, man.

so, its not that he doesnt understand....he is actively, consiously opposed to lifting a fucking finger even though it means a better life?

if thats the case fuck him. he deserves everything shitty that has occurred thusfar. he chose it.
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Well, it wasn't really an analogy, I was just kinda trying to explain the magnitude of what you'd be asking him to do. You're asking Chris to be... not Chris.

It'd be like sending him off to a camp, where he had to sleep on packing peanuts and eat flavorless gruel for a week. When he gets home, he'll be like "ahhh, great to be home," and then go back to his normal life.
 
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Marvin said:
Well, it wasn't really an analogy, I was just kinda trying to explain the magnitude of what you'd be asking him to do. You're asking Chris to be... not Chris.

It'd be like sending him off to a camp, where he had to sleep on packing peanuts and eat flavorless gruel for a week. When he gets home, he'll be like "ahhh, great to be home," and then go back to his normal life.
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even if he got laid on the ride home, and the lady said it was because he was clean and healthy and had his shit together, he wouldnt be willing to keep it up?

sorry to belabor the point, im just trying to wrap my head around it.
 
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Chikinballs said:
even if he got laid on the ride home, and the lady said it was because he was clean and healthy and had his shit together, he wouldnt be willing to keep it up?

sorry to belabor the point, im just trying to wrap my head around it.
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Well, he also thinks he's clean and healthy as he is now.
 
Chikinballs said:
i concede i am not familiar as you all are, hence asking instead of debating. pussy is a hell of a motivator, so i am trying my best to understand.
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Lol, not trying to belittle you, just having some fun. Chris is who he is because his mind just doesn't process that he gets out of life what he puts into it. Ever since he was born, things he wants have been handed to him in some way or another. Even if he couldn't get what he wanted, he'd learn to make do with something far less than he wanted, because it required no effort. You're saying Chris should understand "If I do this, I'll get that", but in Chris's mind, he shouldn't ever HAVE to do this to get that. It should just arrive at his feet.

Case in point: Jackie (and others). She asked him to do stuff, and promised to fuck him in return. Chris only VERY begrudgingly did anything, from taking a bath to a simple cosplay. She had to twist his arm big time, and still most of the stuff she asked for, he never did. Chris only bent a little because, as you said, pussy is a good motivator.
 
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ChurchOfGodBear said:
Lol, not trying to belittle you, just having some fun. Chris is who he is because his mind just doesn't process that he gets out of life what he puts into it. Ever since he was born, things he wants have been handed to him in some way or another. Even if he couldn't get what he wanted, he'd learn to make do with something far less than he wanted, because it required no effort. You're saying Chris should understand "If I do this, I'll get that", but in Chris's mind, he shouldn't ever HAVE to do this to get that. It should just arrive at his feet.

Case in point: Jackie (and others). She asked him to do stuff, and promised to fuck him in return. Chris only VERY begrudgingly did anything, from taking a bath to a simple cosplay. She had to twist his arm big time, and still most of the stuff she asked for, he never did. Chris only bent a little because, as you said, pussy is a good motivator.
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lets say the bath and cosplay got him some head. would he then do more for some poon? and more for some gymnastic fuckfest, so on and so forth? i am thinking, at this point, the process would have to begin anew with each woman rather than him understanding keeping these things up would get him something more than nothing in general.

i mean, none of these things got him any rewards. so, in a way no wonder he said fuck this shit.
 
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Chikinballs said:
lets say the bath and cosplay got him some head. would he then do more for some poon? and more for some gymnastic fuckfest, so on and so forth? i am thinking, at this point, the process would have to begin anew with each woman rather than him understanding keeping these things up would get him something more than nothing in general.

i mean, none of these things got him any rewards. so, in a way no wonder he said fuck this shit.
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Remember, Chris has no concept that other people have wants and desires different from his own. Chris wants to fuck, therefore the women around him should want to fuck him. At no point does Chris consider that they don't want to fuck him, and that he might have to do something to make the situation more appealing. Chris making himself look/smell/act better would be nothing more than him doing some strange voodoo dance that has no meaning other than delivering promised china.

You're correct, the process would have to be done over and over again, because Chris doesn't ever get that he isn't perfect just the way he is.
 
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ChurchOfGodBear said:
Remember, Chris has no concept that other people have wants and desires different from his own. Chris wants to fuck, therefore the women around him should want to fuck him. At no point does Chris consider that they don't want to fuck him, and that he might have to do something to make the situation more appealing. Chris making himself look/smell/act better would be nothing more than him doing some strange voodoo dance that has no meaning other than delivering promised china.

You're correct, the process would have to be done over and over again, because Chris doesn't ever get that he isn't perfect just the way he is.
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are you familiar with, and i forget the specifics so godbear with me...the concept of individuality that toddlers go through, when they go from thinking everyone has a collective consience to understanding different people know different things? does chris not have that?
 
Chikinballs said:
are you familiar with, and i forget the specifics so godbear with me...the concept of individuality that toddlers go through, when they go from thinking everyone has a collective consience to understanding different people know different things? does chris not have that?
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Nope. What's more, the autism handicaps him from understanding others's perspectives.

Actually, a lot of Chris's behaviors can be understood better with toddler analogies. He's not a complete manchild, but he does have a LOT of arrested development.
 
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