Containment What If?

he doesnt sound high functioning at all.

perspective i can understand, i get that as a handicap. knowledge, thats a big one. huge.
 
What if we had an unlimited amount of money and created a completely controlled environment in which to restructure his thought process? Everyone would be actors and/or mental health professionals.

1) separate Chris from his environment and bring him on some controlled facility on an island. He is cleaned, given a haircut and functional uniforms. he is made to share space with actors in these barracks. they will be instructed not to mock him, but to support and admonish him. this will hopefully allow him to bond with others in a similar situation or observe positive peer role modeling.

2) all meals requires a very modest expenditure of effort. the food is healthy and nutritious, which will hopefully improve his mood. Example, a turkey burger will be positioned on the third floor. some orange juice on the fourth floor. he must climb the stairs and perform simple exercise to eat.

3) all "creature comforts" such as a comfy bed, paper and art supplies, legos etc. require human cooperation to acquire. He will need to demonstrate functional understanding of empathy. example, he has to help a black kid with his Pokemons, has to work together with others to simultaneously turn a key to unveil rewards, lift heavy objects with others. occasionally, some sort of faked external threat will occur and everyone will have to rush to battle stations.
this will provide a response for teamwork and reward.

3) Other rewards will be provided based on accomplishing a small job. He seems capable and somewhat loving of the Chandler pets, so he will be given the duties of maintaining a living area, caring for and feeding some domestic animals.

4) interaction will be provided with the opposite sex, who are trained for the task. they will provide positive reinforcement and firm boundaries. smiles, arm touches, sustained eye contact, lengthened verbal communication. Whenever he acts in an appropriate manner. otherwise, they will immediately instruct him on proper responses and disengage. later the same situation will be brought up and he will have a chance to correct his behavior. He will also observe his fellow male comrades interact with the actresses in a positive manner.

5) there will be no electronics or internet. no communication with Barb.

6) as a final resort, rules may be enforced by corporal punishment.

7) this routine will go on for 1 year.

I would watch this as a reality show.
 
Reading around, I wonder, what if Chris was the original owner of the Cursed Majora's Mask cartridge, from the BEN creepypasta? :P

That weekend I decided to drive around a few neighborhoods about twenty minutes or so off campus, hitting up the local garage sales, hoping to score on some good deals from ignorant parents). I ended up picking up a copy of Pokemon Stadium, Goldeneye (fuck yeah), F-Zero, and two other controllers for two dollars. Satisfied, I began to drive out of the neighborhood when one last house caught my attention. I still have no idea why it did, there were no cars there and only one table was set up with random junk on it, but something sort of drew me there. I usually trust my gut on these things so I got out of the car and I was greeted by an old man. His outward appearance was, for lack of a better word, displeasing. It was odd, if you asked me to tell you why I thought he was displeasing, I couldn't really pinpoint anything - there was just something about him that put me on edge, I can't explain it. All I can tell you is that if it wasn't in the middle of the afternoon and there were other people within shouting distance, I would not have even thought of approaching this man.

He flashed a crooked smiled at me and asked what I was looking for, and immediately I noticed that he must be blind in one of his eyes; his right eye had that "glazed over" look about it. I forced myself to look to his left eye instead, trying not to offend, and asked him if he had any old video games.

I was already wondering how I could politely excuse myself from the situation when he would tell me he had no idea what a video game was, but to my surprise he said he had a few ones in an old box. He assured me he'd be back in a "jiffy" and turned to head back into the garage. As I watched him hobble away, I couldn't help but notice what he was selling on his table. Littered across his table were rather… peculiar paintings; various artworks that looked like ink blots that a psychiatrist might show you. Curious, I looked through them - it was obvious why no one was visiting this guy's garage sale, these weren't exactly aesthetically pleasing. As I came to the last one, for some reason it looked almost like Majora's Mask - the same heart-shaped body with little spikes protruding outward. Initially I just thought that since I was secretly hoping to find that game at these garage sales, some Freudian bullshit was projecting itself into the ink blots, but given the events that happened afterward I'm not so sure now. I should have asked the man about it. I wish I would have asked the man about it.

After staring at the Majora-shaped blot, I looked up and the old man was suddenly there again, arms-length in front of me, smiling at me. I'll admit I jumped out of reflex and I laughed nervously as he handed me a Nintendo 64 cartridge.
 
I would watch this as a reality show.

Yes its sad though that I have to think of a scenario with unlimited money, resources and an army of trained professionals to broach cracking his habits.

Though I honestly believe the key is repetition and time. Marvin stated earlier that if you separated Chris from his mom, vidya and bad eating at the end of the day he'd go back to being him. Its probably been done before in small increments, but I think a year of FORCED structure, consequences and positive/negative reinforcement may permanently change part of his tiny brain structure.
 
are you familiar with, and i forget the specifics so godbear with me...the concept of individuality that toddlers go through, when they go from thinking everyone has a collective consience to understanding different people know different things? does chris not have that?

It took me until I was like 20 to realize this… Chris will probably never realize it.
 
Yes its sad though that I have to think of a scenario with unlimited money, resources and an army of trained professionals to broach cracking his habits.

Though I honestly believe the key is repetition and time. Marvin stated earlier that if you separated Chris from his mom, vidya and bad eating at the end of the day he'd go back to being him. Its probably been done before in small increments, but I think a year of FORCED structure, consequences and positive/negative reinforcement may permanently change part of his tiny brain structure.
Ultimately it's up to him to want to change.

And there's been no real indication of that. Ever.
 
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Yes its sad though that I have to think of a scenario with unlimited money, resources and an army of trained professionals to broach cracking his habits.

Though I honestly believe the key is repetition and time. Marvin stated earlier that if you separated Chris from his mom, vidya and bad eating at the end of the day he'd go back to being him. Its probably been done before in small increments, but I think a year of FORCED structure, consequences and positive/negative reinforcement may permanently change part of his tiny brain structure.
Obviously you're not going to change anything in Chris relating to video games and bad eating. See, the mistake you're making is that you are thinking you can change things in him that he strongly cares about, and that's silly.

Yes, you can change Chris, but only things like making him patronize Target instead of Walmart.
 
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he doesnt sound high functioning at all.

perspective i can understand, i get that as a handicap. knowledge, thats a big one. huge.

The best analogy I can think of is Chris sees real life the way you might see a video game, and perceives other people the way you might perceive AI characters.

a) He doesn't see them as being individuals, in the sense that he is. There is him, and then everyone else.
b) He doesn't think about them except as they relate to him. He understands intellectually that they have feelings, but he really only thinks about those feelings because they affect how they interact with him
c) They are pretty much interchangeable.
 
Chris is a real enigma. I don't know why anyone would ever chose to STAY unhappy if it means so much change? Of course it means change! Obviously, you aren't getting anywhere in life, you have to change something!

So here's a new "What if" Question…

What if Chris started doing what I do and take in the "mirth?"

All you have to do is take 3 senses (sight, smell, touch/feel, hearing and taste) and juxtapose them all into happiness full happiness, enjoy the rush of the happiness coming to you, and let it build from there. In no time, you're giggling and laughing and enjoying yourself everywhere.

It's easier to smile than it is to frown, you know. Strange that Chris, lazy fuck that he is, would chose to do the harder thing just for the sake of not changing.
 
Chris is a real enigma. I don't know why anyone would ever chose to STAY unhappy if it means so much change? Of course it means change! Obviously, you aren't getting anywhere in life, you have to change something!

So here's a new "What if" Question…

What if Chris started doing what I do and take in the "mirth?"

All you have to do is take 3 senses (sight, smell, touch/feel, hearing and taste) and juxtapose them all into happiness full happiness, enjoy the rush of the happiness coming to you, and let it build from there. In no time, you're giggling and laughing and enjoying yourself everywhere.

It's easier to smile than it is to frown, you know. Strange that Chris, lazy fuck that he is, would chose to do the harder thing just for the sake of not changing.



http://cwckiforums.com/threads/has-chris-ever-experienced-mirth.2149/
 
What if Chris started doing what I do and take in the "mirth?"

I don't know if I really understand this question. So, you're asking, what if Chris started laughing at everything?

He's too egotistical to forgive, forget, and look on the positive side. If he doesn't get exactly everything he wants he gets pissy and its inherent in his nature to always want more, never being content. It's like when people asked 'What If the CWCki' got deleted?': he'd find something else to bitch about. Every jerkop he's ever run into has become an epic boss battle in his head, and he's still cursing Megan a decade later. That coupled with his entitlement show that even if he does get a sweetheart and Crystal, he'll still want more.

If he did start laughing at everything, he'd probably get locked up and turn into the Joker, except replace Batman with Snyder.
 
What if Chris started doing what I do and take in the "mirth?"

All you have to do is take 3 senses (sight, smell, touch/feel, hearing and taste) and juxtapose them all into happiness full happiness, enjoy the rush of the happiness coming to you, and let it build from there. In no time, you're giggling and laughing and enjoying yourself everywhere.

It's easier to smile than it is to frown, you know. Strange that Chris, lazy fuck that he is, would chose to do the harder thing just for the sake of not changing.
That kind of shit requires some level of self-awareness.
 
I don't know if I really understand this question. So, you're asking, what if Chris started laughing at everything?
I think he's asking why Chris doesn't just feel, "In this moment, I am mirthful. Not because of any phony Emanuel God's blessing. But because, I am eating a 20-piece Chicken McNuggets and extra large sweet tea."
 
I think he's asking why Chris doesn't just feel, "In this moment, I am mirthful. Not because of any phony Emanuel God's blessing. But because, I am eating a a 20-piece Chicken McNuggets and an extra large sweet tea."
Oh.

Pfft, I mean, I enjoy the small things every so often, but they don't distract me from my large scale problems. Except booze, that'll do the trick. :tomgirl:
 
Oh.

Pfft, I mean, I enjoy the small things every so often, but they don't distract me from my large scale problems.
And to Chris the large scale problem is not having a sweetheart.

I mean in reality his problems are fairly different than that, but that's still the main obstacle to "letting the mirth in" or whatever from his point of view.
 
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