Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

[MrJokerRager]

Palisades looks like a fucking volcano going off rn
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Reminds me of Mount Versuvius.

Good times.

 

[Anonitolia]

But shouldn't fires burn out when they reach urban areas? Less overtly flammable materials and all that.

Wouldn't the Beverly Hills oil rigs keep them going easily? And all you'd need is a single eucalyptus...

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

The cam near Bel Air are picking up flames just beyond the hill.

https://cameras.alertcalifornia.org/?pos=34.1225_-118.5284_12&id=Axis-BelAirRidge1

 

[Oeselian Chad]

But shouldn't fires burn out when they reach urban areas? Less overtly flammable materials and all that.

not when its warm 60 degree weather with near single digit humidity levels, and everything is built out of wood and drywall.

 

[blue gopher snakes]

For anyone staring at Watch Duty that doesn’t use it very often if ever, there are always tiny little <1 acre spot fires that are suppressed very quickly on the map. They aren’t an indicator of the main Hellcano spreading into other counties, so much as a reminder that life is still happening everywhere that isn’t charred to ash. Kitchen fires, illegals lighting their own fifth wheel on fire in an avocado grove, a junkie trashcan fire that gets a lil spicy, that kind of thing. There is a reason every city has a fire department.

This has been a long time coming for Edison. They have some real problems that mirror other large organizations in the state that are going to be uncovered throughout all this.

Karen Bass can suck a burnt dick. She IS less fit for her job because she is a black woman and I am tired of everyone pretending otherwise. Her unsettling grin throughout the press coverage of these fires just gets on my last very frayed nerve.

 

[FatalTater]

This yt is pointing north toward Santa Monica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69e0z5ehnc

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Australia was trolling America in the 1800's. We must nuke Australia.

English had already repeatedly nuked Australia during the Cold War. Not that it made much of a difference as they weren't nuking the populated areas.

 

[Jaimas]

Ok Mormon.

A friend of mine was just joking about Takeshi's Challenge.

It's strange how the timing on these work out.

 

[Goofy Logic]

Good Lord. Newsom, Bass and Company are the gang that couldn't shoot straight. Nothing like watching such a cabal of idiots self-destruct. We're watching political futures vaporize in real time. Hilarious!!

There is going to be some political upheaval over this, the question will be how many of these blue idiots will get their asses kicked. This is far too big of a disaster to throw a few municipality peons under the bus and sweep the whole thing under the carpet.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

This neighborhood in the Eaton fire might get completely surrounded and cutoff. Lot's of small fires are popping up in this area that are gonna be hard to deal with.
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Holy fuck they're all gonna die

It wont cause there is no fire there NIGGER. All the fire is up in the mountains, and the city area has been extinguished for over a day now

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Oh. nvmd

 

[northstar747]

LA water chief knew about empty reservoir, broken hydrants months before fires: Report​

State to probe why Pacific Palisades reservoir was offline, empty when firestorm exploded​

A important reservoir had been taken offline for over a year for relatively minor repairs normally handled in-house.

I feel like California and South Africa gov'ts share the same scripts

thank you

I often butt heads with people yelling about a fucking delta smelt 100s of miles north of LA, being the problem.

This helps explain the capacity issue

 

[CarlosDanger]

I'm not familiar with California and LA but it seems a lot of people are freaking out about Encino and Brentwood because the wind change.

 

[Quence]

I’m amazed by the tiny lots those expensive homes in Pacific Palisades were situated on. Many of them were only 1 to 2 feet away from their neighbours’ homes. They were built cheek-by-jowl next to each other.

And the urban sprawl is astonishing. You could drive miles after miles and see nothing but residential neighbourhoods where people are packed together like sardines. Who would want to live like that?

 

[johnny johnny yes papa]

But shouldn't fires burn out when they reach urban areas? Less overtly flammable materials and all that.

Yes but that's not the reason. The reason it won't happen is because it would be too kino.

 

[YouGuysAren'tThatSmart]

But shouldn't fires burn out when they reach urban areas? Less overtly flammable materials and all that.

Someone else said it, but they build houses with Euclyptis trees apparently. Or at least it's used for floorboards. Also there are oil derricks in LA that are build to look like building to match the urban scenery. Also apparently the city is notorious for having numerous oil wells that weren't capped off properly or even at all. Those are things I gathered from reading this thread fr days now. I've learned so much retarded shit about Eucalyptis trees I may as well become one now.

 

[Postal_Rat]

they are evacuating gods bravest soldiers the brush eating goats

 

[YouGuysAren'tThatSmart]

English had already repeatedly nuked Australia during the Cold War. Not that is made much of a difference as they weren't nuking the populated areas.

Is that why we have the mutated Aussies now. The ones with the retarded looking mullet haircuts?

 

[Sneed Lurker]

Kyle Hanson of Bitwit (a very popular Techtuber who previously dealt with a divorce of a cheating wife) lost his entire house in the fire. He made a vlog going through his neighborhood and exploring the remains of his house.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

they are evacuating gods bravest soldiers the brush eating goats

Also they just announced that the Chief was not in fact fired. Or perhaps was unfired when someone told the mayor to stop being a retarded cunt.

 

[Uncle Tom's Condo]

One thing that nobody is addressing is the cost to the City of Los Angeles when talking physical damage from the fire. Here's some longform sperging from a municipal perspective:

PT 1.

Spoiler: Los Angeles Department of Water and Power

DWP provides water (and wastewater) and electricity to LA and is a wholly-owned by LA and is a public utility. Alright, let's start with the power portion. On the plus side, from a damage perspective, none of the power sources are even in LA county, so no damage to power generation. I don't know where the high kV and other lines feed into the stations that then go out to the main in town distribution system are located, but if one had gone up in flames, it would have been in the news. The SCADA network that controls these inputs appears to be largely intact as well, so that's positive. From there to the substations also appears to be largely intact; substations generally aren't in residential areas and certainly not on the edge of any hillside or in an undeveloped canyon.

Where they ARE fucked is distribution system at the neighborhood level. Most of the lines are buried, which is good and bad. Good that debris isn't going to topple any lines, but bad because if there's damage to a buried line it's going to be a bitch to suss out because of the scale of the devastation; it's not like Juan dug up a line by accident and you can see where the damage is. Oh, there's four burned out teslas and a half burnt tree where you need to dig, times 700x? Well, put in a work order and enjoy the wait until someone else comes to clear it out of the way so you can dig.

Summary: Probably not that widespread, but a lot of transformers got toasted and they *probably* don't have enough spares on hand to replace them in short order. I don't know enough about how deep their underground lines are buried to know the extent the fire melted stuff.

But without power, you can't operate your water/sewer system...

Water and Wastewater also falls under the purview DWP and is regulated as a public utility just like the electric side. On the water side, there probably wasn't much damage. There was no mention of any damage to any treatment distribution plants or pump stations, which is good because as funny as the idea of a water plant burning down is, they are horrendously expensive to build and it's not like you're going to Vonn's to get a new filter for your Britta pitcher. A bunch of shit did get into the source waters and DWP is telling people not to drink the water, so that will require flushing the system and a boatload of treatment chemicals and filters. I don't know what kind of treatment system they have, but they're going to have to buy a shit load of supplies. Oh, and it's extremely energy intensive to operate a water treatment plan and then pump out the water to the distribution system.

Wastewater, aka sewer, in theory, should be simpler since shit rolls downhill, but given the terrain this isn't always possible. This necessitates lift stations that essentially pump wastewater uphill to another main to get feed into a larger main towards the treatment plant. These are housed in wet wells that are below ground level and accessed from ground level and, at least the ones i've dealt with, have above ground control panels so you don't gotta climb down to check their status. Simple enough, but the lift stations requires electricity to operate, so no power no work. Plus, if they have above ground control panels, then lol, RIP to those control panels and any SCADA equipment that reports back to HQ. The control panels and SCADA aren't nearly as costly as the pumps, but I have no idea how many spares they have on hand how long it takes to inspect and labor to replace if damaged. There was no mention so far of damage to treatment plants, but again, those aren't in residential areas. DWP doesn't have a combined waste water/stormwater system, which is a VERY good thing for them in case it ever rains or when they have to flush all the hydrants and all that ash and debris goes down the literal drain and doesn't require fancy treatment systems.

Summary: robably not that bad, but depending on the location of the control panels and where they connect to the grid, it could be a real fucking pain in the ass to test each control panel and SCADA components.

PT 2 to follow