Feminism and leftist created the incel problem.

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

For real. The only thing I can imagine is maybe they live in a college town? I think far, far too many people believe made up fanfiction reddit stories and don't actually go outside and look around. I know some of the ugliest dumbest motherfuckers that have multiple women chasing them.

in most cases its just cope for why they dont even attempt to approach women. "i cant try to get a date bro id spend the rest of my life in nigger jail" would be a good reason to stay single and miserable forever if it were true

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Red pill = gay pill = trans pill
Big tech wants to make money off porn, AI girlfriends and sex robots. They have a vested interest in pushing incel ideology on men so they repulse and/or are repulsed by women. Most tech moguls are faggot transhumanists who want to turn most males into faggots like themselves.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

in most cases its just cope for why they dont even attempt to approach women. "i cant try to get a date bro id spend the rest of my life in nigger jail" would be a good reason to stay single and miserable forever if it were true

Its so bizarre. I don't fault men for being worried about false accusations for example, but using that as a reason to never even try dating is insane. No different from the women that assume all men are rapists. Both are completely reasonable things to worry about, but taking that worry and turning it into a reason to not only give up on dating, but also encourage others to do the same, is ridiculous.

 

[Inside your walls]

You understand things make the news because they're noteworthy right? If something happened constantly it wouldn't be news. Clearly false rape allegations happen. It's the exaggerated scale of it I disagree with.

There is so much nuance to the topic of false rape allegations/accusations and the fact this topic tends to be reduced for someone's agenda is annoying.

For example false accusations/allegations are split into two types, one is the false report and second one is a baseless report.

In fact this is the likelihood of how much
false allegations/accusations happening.

Source

Fun fact: Prior to FBI and IACP issuing guidelines on how to handle these rape allegations and cases, if the
victim didn't have enough enough, had delayed reports and inconsistent statements was enough for
police to drop the case and label it as a false allegation/accusation.

Here's also another finding from the Irish research for this topic

Source

And here's also Aussie's research on this

Source

Do false accusations happen? Absolutely but it's very rare and not as common as fagosphere men want people to believe in.

 

[Maurice Maine]

Null really shouldn't have opened the door to the Mumsnet droogs to come here. I know it's a symptom not the cause but c'mon women do have a certain amount of responsibility for what's going on. It's a raw deal, man. We're gonna see the consequences for years.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Red pill = gay pill = trans pill
Big tech wants to make money off porn, AI girlfriends and sex robots. They have a vested interest in pushing incel ideology on men so they repulse and/or are repulsed by women. Most tech moguls are faggot transhumanists who want to turn most males into faggots like themselves.

My understanding of the term "red pill" just refers to not being a woke retard, being more conservative/traditional, so no.

Its so bizarre. I don't fault men for being worried about false accusations for example, but using that as a reason to never even try dating is insane. No different from the women that assume all men are rapists. Both are completely reasonable things to worry about, but taking that worry and turning it into a reason to not only give up on dating, but also encourage others to do the same, is ridiculous.

They don't even consistently apply the logic either, they'd never cross the street otherwise because a car might hit them.

Do false accusations happen? Absolutely but it's very rare

I don't think we can know either way. I'd assume it's more common than we're lead to believe, but not something to let dictate your decisions. Just avoid liberals and 95% of the false rape accusation potential evaporates anyway.

I know it's a symptom not the cause but c'mon women do have a certain amount of responsibility for what's going on.

They do, but men are supposed to man up take reality as it is, not how they want it to be. If they want change then become politically active, it effects culture.

 

[isalaide]

I did not ask my nigel out. I told him. If some lassie wanted to go out with you, I assure you she would fucking tell you. This is not a 'failure', men are not getting asked out by lassies because lassies do not want to go out with them. No 'mind reading' is involved or required.

 

[KittyGremlin]

"men should view themselves as disposable tools"

Proving my point.

I think you're taking this way too literally

 

[KittyGremlin]

I assume you're being facetious but the gym video that was posted in this thread is the perfect example of what I mean. A painfully obviously staged video, filmed by a literal whore that profits off controversy, yet there are men in the replies treating it as if she is serious.

I don't disagree that a lot of these are likely staged to farm views but when I was around 16, I went to a gym to work out during summer break. I was minding my own business and this woman shows up, loudly proclaiming I have told someone she was pretty. Luckily the guys knew she was purposely causing a scene but it was kinda creepy and uncomfortable.

 

[Sultan Illìthæl of Isreal]

HELLO LONEY MEN! I AM
COME WITH SOLUTION FOR YOU LONELY YES?! FR
OM GREAT CHINA
WANT WIFE??? COME TO SHANGHAI
MARRAGE
MARKET! MANY WOMEN.. (NO
BLACK)

 

[IliterateNerd77]

Seems like I've upset the BP femcels, including the one and only Lidi, with this post. Very brave to come out of your safe space, I'll give you that lol.

Most of them are these super duper alpha male podacsters who always go for these glammed up women with fake tans and fake tits.
Half of the women invited to these podcasts are hookers and OF whores but when you're a 14 year old boy, you believe those click chasers and think that legit every woman is a slut.
Even all the "80% of women go after 20% of men" is nonsense because it only looks at Hinge and Tinder which only a minority of people use.
Those of us who talk to women IRL instead of using an app have a completely different experience.

This sounds like an ad homien fallacy. A lot of people outside of the manosphere have acknowledged that young men are too afraid to approach women in-person, because the consequence of #metoo, or more specifically, schizo women co-opting metoo. The only who aren't are leftists, because it's a harsh truth that would destroy their own narrative and view on heterosexual relationships. Which is why leftists, especially breadtubers, try so hard to blame the "male lonelinees epidemic" on patriarchy, the manosphere, male gaze, right wing politics, and everything else except women's toxcity/schizoperna and themselves. In the fact, leftist politics and of course women have contributed a lot to why men don't approach women, let alone the gender division.

Also I'm skeptical of the whole "80% 20%" thing too, but, there's a lot of Gen Z women who post fear porn about men and a lot of them who have batshit insane standards for the type of man they want. How many Gen Z women have you seen say that they simply want a man who's got a heathly physique and nothing more? How many Gen Z women, outside of right wing circles, say not all men rapists or otherwise push back against this misandrist fearmongering?

Besides, even if it was true, at least the 90% of the 20% of men, that women are going for, are right leaning political, given the scientific studies proving that muscluar built men tend to lean right, politically.

There is so much nuance to the topic of false rape allegations/accusations and the fact this topic tends to be reduced for someone's agenda is annoying.

For example false accusations/allegations are split into two types, one is the false report and second one is a baseless report.

There's millions of false rape/harrasment allegations that usually get a man fired from his job, those don't make the news for many reasons-corperate secrecy being one of them. Plus, it's known that HR tends to have a strong bias for women, that they will fire male employees over false harassment allegations. While the ones that do send people to jail usually don't make it pass local news. Think about how many robbery and murder cases you hear on the local news, get national attention?

Besides, this doesn't excuse nor disprove that: women, leftist politics, the insane fear mongering over men, and the consequences of #metoo, have contributed a lot to the gender division/gender wars. As much if not more, than the "alpha male" podcasters.

Lol wish that "men are too afraid to approach women because she might call him a creep" was actually true. Imagine if we actually lived in such a paradise where men stopped being creepy annoying fucks and stopped bothering women altogether because they are afraid of "false rape allegations". Unfortunately this will never be the case.

You have my sympathy, I do feel bad that all of the men who do approach you are down bad desperate dudes who look something like this.


With all that said, you are a femcel which is likely one of the big reasons why physically attrractive men don't approach you.


Of course I will say, just because a lot young women have insanely high and realistic standards for men, doesn't mean that neckbeards, niceguys, incels, and basement dwellers are justified in being entitled to a hot girl. Especially when said men are either obese or have that twink physique. A lot Gen Z men do need to hit the gym and "looksmaxx". The fact many Gen Z women have these unrealistic standards, makes a very case for legalization of steroids: since at least it would enable Gen Z men to easily meet the physical qualfications. I'm of the opinion that if both men and women in general, where physically fit, the incel/femcel would be a fraction of what it is today. Parents of Gen Zers, should put a lot pressure on them to be physically fit. The hysteria over body image and the "look don't matter" cope advice is another big part of why so many Gen Zers are femcels/incels, but that's for a different thread.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I think if we stop having children we can cure the incel problem. This way they can't be born.

 

[Idiotron]

A lot of people outside of the manosphere have acknowledged that young men are too afraid to approach women in-person, because the consequence of #metoo, or more specifically, schizo women co-opting metoo.

Yeah but that's paranoia more than anything else?
How many times when an average man approaches an average woman does #MeToo even enter the conversation?

The only who aren't are leftists, because it's a harsh truth that would destroy their own narrative and view on heterosexual relationships. Which is why leftists, especially breadtubers, try so hard to blame the "male lonelinees epidemic" on patriarchy, the manosphere, male gaze, right wing politics, and everything else except women's toxcity/schizoperna and themselves.

Breadtubers are mentally ill morons who don't matter.

In the fact, leftist politics and of course women have contributed a lot to why men don't approach women, let alone the gender division.

Sure and so did alpha male podcasts.
However, when you interact with women IRL instead of through a screen, the division just isn't there.
Not to mention, because of all the guys who are now scared to approach them, women actually respond really positively to guys just talking to them, especially when you just treat them as people and not as sex objects.

there's a lot of Gen Z women who post fear porn about men and a lot of them who have batshit insane standards for the type of man they want.

Yeah but that is online bullshit, half of which is just women trolling the manosphere.
Some dudes seem to think that everything women post is 100% sincere and not just for the lulz.

How many Gen Z women have you seen say that they simply want a man who's got a heathly physique and nothing more? How many Gen Z women, outside of right wing circles, say not all men rapists or otherwise push back against this misandrist fearmongering?

Once you leave the internet and talk to women IRL, you find out that the ones who constantly post TikToks are the vocal minority.

Besides, even if it was true, at least the 90% of the 20% of men, that women are going for, are right leaning political, given the scientific studies proving that muscluar built men tend to lean right, politically.

I can't really speak on that, I would have to do my own research into this.
Seems to me like another stereotype, probably there was a survey with like 300 participants which means nothing.

I honestly think that the mindset is everything.
A lot of people are lonely and awkward these days, they would want to just go and talk to someone but they're scared and all these online movements aren't making things easier.
Once I stopped being scared and just started talking to women, I found out that it's really easy.
Now, the fact that I work out 2 hours every day does help, I do look good.
However, everyone can do that, working out is really easy, that's why the dumbest people can get ripped.

 

[Male Idiot]

It is a problem, but a self fixing one.

If men do not reproduce, others will be imported who do. Bobs and vegan will be redeemed, Allah praised, and Tiuhana donkey shows the norm.

It is just biology and we live in mouse utopia.

 

[Masturbator]

on positive note femcels and alike are outta gene pool so in a decade or two you wont see likes of em at all

 

[Spooky Dogwood]

Something I'd like to note that hasn't really been mentioned is that accusations of sexual harassment are not the only thing men are fearful of. Try to "put yourself out there" and unless you are particularly attractive, you will quickly become a local CWC-tier social pariah. In the west there is simply no proper time and place for the sexes to mingle anymore. I'm fairly sure anyone denying how bad things have gotten is secretly happy that a 3rd or more of the male population is dying alone. I guess they're too embarrassed about their stance on eugenics.

 

[PaleTay]

I legit do not understand where you people live that this shit happens constantly. I have never once in my entire life been accused of sexual harassment after approaching or talking to a woman. I've never met a single dude who's had this happen to him and I've never seen this happen once any time when I've seen guys approach women in public. I've never seen this happen when awkward creepy dudes approach women and I've never even seen this happen when dudes approach women and immediately get hostile and fucked up towards them the second they don't immediately fall in love with them which I've unfortunately seen happen a fair number of times.

University and zoomers. It seems like every zoomie guy I've met has been falsely accused of harassment or rape and had to get their girlfriend to step in.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

HELLO LONEY MEN! I AM
COME WITH SOLUTION FOR YOU LONELY YES?! FR
OM GREAT CHINA
WANT WIFE??? COME TO SHANGHAI
MARRAGE
MARKET! MANY WOMEN.. (NO
BLACK)

I was following a personal LOLcow from Germany who purchased a young Chinese wife... he was 67 at the time... he brought said slave home... and he promptly "came out" by fucking other men in public parks, bragged about it on Facebook and telegram, and then trooned out a few weeks after that.
From what his critics said, she was hot and could "quote the Bible". I've come to learn that he's probably a Satanist or worships Lucifer in some fashion, so "corrupting" a "Christian" was probably one of his major fetishes. He also passed her around in drug fueled orgies with his faggot lovers.
This guy posed as a right winger for some time... reposted "Tucker" and various Musk-approved "favorite influencers". I since learned old troonfaggot is literally employed by German state-funded media, and probably is on the take with Russia and/or China. Therefor, none of these "right wing influencers" can be trusted. The left wingers are also suspect, of course. Never trust an influencer, ever, even the supposedly "elderly and therefor probably honest" ones.

 

[Kiwisee]

to "put yourself out there" and unless you are particularly attractive, you will quickly become a local CWC-tier social pariah

Don’t tell me you’ve been putting out an attraction sign in real life…

 

[Rodeo Roadrunner]

There is genuinely no point in discussing the incel issue with any seriousness on KF because the only people who take it seriously are either incels themselves, former incels/men who struggled with women so have sympathy, or the rare 'normie' who has personal experience with someone who did struggle with women and didn't understand why.

Anyway I am at the point of just reposting this article whenever I see a new thread like this pop up.