Feminism and leftist created the incel problem.

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ArthuriusMartyrius said:
And I'll repeat myself as well since you seem to have tried to pull a bait-and-switch so let's try again.
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I don't know if you're a retard with reading comprehension issues or you're just being disingenuous but nowhere I stated what you are claiming I've stated.

You somehow interpreted it as "incels end up hooking up with trash women because deep down inside they think they'll only have this kind of woman" and wants to use this interpretation of yours to warp what I've wrote. You tried to slip in some Freudian bullshit into a statement that was clear as daylight.

There's no such thing as "they think" or "they believe" or "mentality". Is what it'll be left for them. Period. It's not a matter of what one's ego deduces, it's a matter of fact that they'll only attract shit-tier women while thinking they deserve otherwise. Which directly contradicts your statement:
If you go into dating with the mentality that you can only pull demented whores then no shit, your subconscious will start looking for those kinds of women
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Incels go after women thinking the exact opposite. As I've stated before they think they deserve top-tier but they're not cut out for that. So, in a hypothetical situation where an incel finds a partner, it'll be a shit-tier partner because they're shit-tier as well but they'll think this kind of women won't suit them. Aside from some exceptions do you really think incels have that much self-awareness?
 
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RandomTwitterGuy said:
I know big fat ugly guys, tiny nerdy guys, a guy with weird facial paralysis that made one part of his head dropy, a guy with a gnarly looking scar over half his face from a car crash as a kid, and everything in between and guess what. They all have girlfriends or are married now.

Sorry that you're a faggot who can't figure out how to be interesting; that is not women's fault. You suck.
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Yes I'm well aware im entirely uninteresting to women in every respect, which is why im in the position that I am. Thank you for your insightful response.
 
since this retard fiesta shitpostia went on longer than it really should have i am going to dip some Da Knowledge is that about every 'cel problem roughly boils down to inept parenting under absent/fundie/subhuman/twitter parents who failed in every aspect both to keep their childe secure (read: you are bullied at school? get belted for fighting back bitch) and to provide for their future (read: generic gen z complaints about having no ability to rent/buy housing or shit at all), this is absolute concrete truth in every pedagogy related work and book that this shit has been a pattern for centuries straight (and even was used as excuse for eugenics a century ago) that quality of parenting decides the future, the personality and growth, futhermore with general collapse of said parenting in question its not a big surprize that 'cels are on the rise
 
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Celestial Peace said:
I don't know if you're a retard with reading comprehension issues or you're just being disingenuous but nowhere I stated what you are claiming I've stated.

You somehow interpreted it as "incels end up hooking up with trash women because deep down inside they think they'll only have this kind of woman" and wants to use this interpretation of yours to warp what I've wrote. You tried to slip in some Freudian bullshit into a statement that was clear as daylight.

There's no such thing as "they think" or "they believe" or "mentality". Is what it'll be left for them. Period. It's not a matter of what one's ego deduces, it's a matter of fact that they'll only attract shit-tier women while thinking they deserve otherwise. Which directly contradicts your statement:
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You're still trying to pull a bait-and-switch and pretend that you didn't say what you actually said. That's dedication to the act, I'll give you that. Or maybe you really are as outrageously stupid as you pretend to be.
Incels go after women thinking the exact opposite. As I've stated before they think they deserve top-tier but they're not cut out for that. So, in a hypothetical situation where an incel finds a partner, it'll be a shit-tier partner because they're shit-tier as well but they'll think this kind of women won't suit them. Aside from some exceptions do you really think incels have that much self-awareness?
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No, inceldom goes hand-in-hand with major self-hate and deep-seated belief that they don't deserve better. You can observe it for yourself if you spend ten minutes perusing some online watering holes featuring those very same self-described incels that you clearly think so highly of.
 
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I don't get the whole suicidal thing. You can do a number of fun things without women.

Video games. Trainwatching, collecting sportscards, whatever. Just enjoy that.
 
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Male Idiot said:
I don't get the whole suicidal thing. You can do a number of fun things without women.

Video games. Trainwatching, collecting sportscards, whatever. Just enjoy that.
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Society views being alone as a failure. It's also about how you're perceived by your peers/family. Being the only one in your family and friend group not married or without children can feel like having a giant stamp that says "LOSER" on your forehead. I understand women are currently going through a "Boss Babe" era were putting your career first is considered empowering, but it's too early to see the exact fallout of how these women wind up. We may easily find a whole generation of women who also end up in the same black pilled boat as the male incels. Our society also does put a value on relationships and sex which is why being called an incel is such a go to insult these days. So no women, no sex, and no offspring just screams "failure" in their eyes.
 
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RandomTwitterGuy said:
Then what the fuck are you going to do about it. Sit around and pity yourself.
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What exactly is someone supposed to do about being a pariah because they were simply born wrong? You cannot endear a people towards you who are conditioned at a biological level to despise you. That goes for both men and women btw.
 
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Nobody likes pity party throwers. I have a friend that is like 6'4 and 300 pounds of autism. No job, no skills, no education. Has a room full of arcade cabinets but does not have a working computer. I offered him a laptop, since he has repeatedly mentioned his phone is full and he is an aspiring writer, and he refused. Every week at Bible study he prays for a girlfriend, but every woman around him has to compete with the crusty image of an extremely fit and attractive samus cosplayer he has on his phone. He is genuinely a funny guy and could have an active love life if he wanted but he is his own stumbling block. He wants his overly idealized samus wife to woo him and move into his autism cave at his parents house with him. None of his problems have a thing to do with feminism or whatever the op said.

What I am trying to say is that self sabotage is more of most peoples problem than anything else
 
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Male Idiot said:
I don't get the whole suicidal thing. You can do a number of fun things without women.

Video games. Trainwatching, collecting sportscards, whatever. Just enjoy that.
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Suicide is not the answer, but suggesting trainwatching your life away will only make it sound more appealing to people.

spurggist said:
What exactly is someone supposed to do about being a pariah because they were simply born wrong? You cannot endear a people towards you who are conditioned at a biological level to despise you. That goes for both men and women btw.
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Born wrong? If you're ugly then work your ass off to afford procedures and shit to take the edge off your ugly mug. If you're boring then cultivate two interests and/or skills and keep up on sports, politics, and entertainment.

Unless you're literally retarded or physically disabled then there's a lot you can do to make yourself tolerable. Just improve yourself as best you can, lower your standards, and be you'll be fine. I guess if you're retarded or disabled you can find a woman of similar condition, so even then it's not hopeless.

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What I am trying to say is that self sabotage is more of most peoples problem than anything else
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And laziness.
 
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Forced marriage between the man thread posters and the woman thread posters, one femcel for every incel, state execution if not enforced.
respect between sexes has fallen, millions must marry
 
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The Incel problem happens because all men have been groomed and they're still in denial about it.
 
Space Police said:
1. Looks don't matter to the vast majority of men; pretending to care about looks is a "sour grapes" mentality.
2. Approaching random women to go out with you and expecting that you should be successful in that because you bothered to leave your cum-encrusted room after your weekly shower is pure entitlement, and that's what feminists have an issue with. Go to IRL areas specifically made for dating, be a lovable and admirable man, and you'll have few issues.
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Looks matter less for men but men like hot girls

going up to random women is how its always worked i assume you’re a zoomer who needs his apps for anything in life. my parents met at random it was at a bowling alley and he asked for her number, they didnt meet on grindr like you
 
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I would agree with the threads thesis, but not for the reasons anyone has suggested.

All the reasons people typically discuss are certainly contributing factors, but I think their combination together is what creates the incel unto himself. Now, even then, those types of guys (the socially inept, ugly, and unsuccessful) have always existed, thats nothing new. What I think instead has created the modern incel phenomenon is the aforementioned typical contributing factors, which make things harder than they may have been previously (by way of complexity; things arent "harder" in the modern day per sey, but they certainly have a lot more moving parts), and combines with feminist messaging, and that latter portion is what catalyzes and provokes the incel movement we see today

Because what does that messaging say? It says in short "As a woman, I am better than you, I deserve more good than you do, and all the while I suffer more than you do," and the obvious implications of the inverse of that statement (you're worse than me, you do not deserve good, and you do not suffer). From there, we take dissaffected guys, who aren't having a great go at life, due their own failings or not, and tell them that the opposite sex is better than them while they are trash, that the opposite sex is deserving of so many things while they deserve dirt, and that the opposite sex suffers immensly while they do not suffer at all. That is how the contempt and bitterness is bred. Vice versa is true as well, the "femcels" for want of a better word see the incels/redpill types say a similar sort of thing, and grow all the more bitter from it.

Much of this I also think stems from this absolutely retarded mindset where we think men and women are essentially indistinguishable (minus physically since the troons have forced that difference to be acknowledged), and that therefore we can and should compare them directly. This is as said, retarded. Men and women are different, and comparing them directly is foolish. You cannot compare male disposability and female frailty, or women being treated as incompetent and men being treated as malicious. They're simply different
 
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