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Malodorous Merkin said:
The biggest tragedy that's going to result from the California fires is the number of human rats that are going to flee the flames, leave California, and spread their destructive progressive brain disease across the US.

Everytime there's a disaster in California, it's like a plague patient sneezing in a crowded room.

On the bright side, Gavin Newsom's POTUS chances just dropped to -100 gorillion %. Which is nice.

But I hope the fire debacle doesn't end his governorship though, because he is absolutely the governor California deserves.
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Commiefornians flee the place because of the politics and the taxes downstream of that, but can tend to vote for the things that made them flee. The mess and horror for LA residents mightn't hurt his chances given a few years. People have bad memories.
 
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I am very conflicted about all of this. One the one hand, seeing the extreme left paying a price for their idiocy is fine by me, but on the other... well, I really hate to see innocent people suffer for no damn good reason. Los Angeles is Ground Zero for the wholesale assault on our popular culture and its icons, so if the fires were raging through, say, Bob Iger's mansion, or wherever Leslie Headland and Kathleen Kennedy live, or Alex Kurtzman's place, or Renee Zegler's apartment, fine. I won't lie, I'd laugh like a maniac. But a guy like Dick van Dyke, who had to evacuate his home, maybe lost everything? I love that guy, always have. Or Billy Crystal, never had a problem with him, he lost the home he lived in since like the 1970's. Or just regular people who maybe aren't getting burned out, but will lose their jobs and stuff? Yeah, my heart goes out to them. Plus, all of the locations used in many of the movies we loved growing up? Some of those are gone already, so you could never visit Mecca, so to speak. It just kind of sucks all the way around.
 
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First Local Gavin Interview I found​

"As you stand here, what goes through your mind?"
"from someone who's been to a lot of these...Tubbs Fire I never thought I'd see something like that"
"Rebuilding... not going to be easy... is there red tape you can cut through?"
"we are looking at a series of executive orders, we are looking a series of legislative pathways to absolutely focus and stream line...I want to do this statewide"
"I've been working on this for years, 42 seeker reforms (I don't know exactly about that last part)"
"Already working on this"
"Coastal commission work as well"
"working through old strategies we already did in paradise"
"We have to do the assessment...The scale and scope and the value of these homes is off the charts"
"there's been wild estimates up to 57 billion dollars, but on the basis of what?"
"that's based on areal assessments not a real detailed understanding of what's on the ground"
"When you see a number like that [57 billion] it's wild speculation, it's unprecedented, those are... that's not a numeric" - Gavis seeing his life flash before his eyes
"Right now we are fighting 5 active fires"
"asking DWP why was there no water"
"those places burned and theres nothing that can be done"
"yeah that's what the letter was about"
"I'm not interested in the finger point"
"we could've had engines on every house... with 90 mph winds [it wouldn't have mattered]"
"I didn't see those images, I was there"
"they need to be designed in this new world reality, we're in the middle of January 70 degrees out (The Climate of Los Angeles) you get like hurricane forced winds"
"you're asking Trump to come here"
"I want him to visit to understand the magnity of the scope of what happened to the American people"
"it's with an open hand, not a closed fist"
"I don't want to politicize the event"
"have you two talked about this"
"no"


 
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Save the Loli said:
West Virginia is the whitest state in the country and is also the second dumbest. California is an outlier since Democrat states like Massachusetts and Minnesota are the smartest. It's not really fair to add the Plains states either since those are full of more recent European immigrants from 120 years ago, and Massachusetts and Minnesota are still somehow very smart despite being full of low IQ gimmegrants and Massachusetts being full of lower IQ whites like Portuguese and southern Italians/Sicilians (who had cousin marriage rates almost as high as Pakis until the 1950s, thankfully we stopped them immigrating here in the 1920s). California would likely be a lot smarter, but is majority brown so obviously it scores fairly low.
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This just in: Trends don't explain 100% of a thing
 
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Malodorous Merkin said:
On the bright side, Gavin Newsom's POTUS chances just dropped to -100 gorillion %, which is nice.
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Oh honey.
He'll still run, gathering huge amounts of campaign funds as he does so, and when asked about the fires?
That never happened, and if it did it was handled in the best way anyone ever could have handled it and anyone with evidence proving otherwise is a liar.
People will believe him, he may well get elected.
It is the way of things.
 
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DEI is bullshit. DEI doesnt start wildfires.

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But its easier to place blame, than fix a problem.
Convince me otherwise.
 
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Irene and 22 others said:
Minnesota is basically the same story as many other blue states where it's a few bughives that vote heavily Democrat while the rest of the state suffers under their idiotic policies. They imported a bunch of Somalis, which is worse than just about any other group, save for maybe Haitians.

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The northeastern part of the state has a lot of forest density and have had some large fires throughout the states history, but they tend to be in the remote parts of the state where few people live and the climate isn't as conducive for them to grow as out of control as in California.

Minneapolis still hasn't rebuilt much of what was destroyed during the George Floyd riots, which while awful is nowhere close to the devastation that LA has already experienced. That should clue in everyone as to how to the reconstruction efforts will go there.
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The biggest issue with Minnesota is Minnesotans and the transplants that embrace their insane flavor of “Progressiveness”. The “out state” people would gladly be happy having some milquetoast Minnesota born and bred Republican like Tim Pawlenty rule over that frozen shithole for the next forever years but they’ve been outnumber by the tranny bugmen in the Twin Cities and Duluth for over a decade now. That they let Tim Walz get reelected should tell you how doomed that state is at ever waking up.

Left Minneapolis in Nov 2020 but when I had to go back there in 2023 for a deposition downtown was still a ghost town and East Lake (where the burned out 3rd District still sits as a reminder of their many many many failures) is still a bombed out shithole. In any other state or city in the union the leaders there would be hanged on meathooks at the city limits to send a message to how bad they fucked up but instead they just let these bums continue to keep their jobs via reelection. Friends of ours there say that Jacob Frey may actually have a political comeback, which tells you how absolutely fucked that place is with the librulism insanity. I wish them nothing but more trannies and terrorism. Fuck that shithole and Fuck Tim Walz with a rusted Buick.
 
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No. 7 cat said:
Commiefornians flee the place because of the politics and the taxes downstream of that, but can tend to vote for the things that made them flee. The mess and horror for LA residents mightn't hurt his chances given a few years. People have bad memories.
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I've heard this, but I don't see it play out where I am. A whole lot of covid-era "fuck the west coast" people living in my area, and we all feel very similar about never voting for another Democrat. For a lot of us, realizing our politics had shifted far beyond where our local friends and neighbors would even accept us was the main impetus in leaving. Once you're a populist Republican voter living in the deep blue places, everyone makes it real clear they don't want you.

I get why the transplants are looked at with scorn, but you can't have it both ways and say that people should get out if they don't want to be regarded as subhuman scum and also that transplants are subhuman scum. Good Americans are born in every single state in our country (except Delaware). Opinions can differ as to whether they should bloom where they are planted or assort according to like-minded views, but you're can't simultaneously believe "everyone who lives there loves this shit or they'd have left already" and also "people who leave are actually just like the people who stay."

I'm sure there are plenty of people who live down to this stereotype in general, and there are cities like Austin where the California rush happened so fast that it caused major cultural alterations, but mostly the "covid refugees" have had a massive shift in voting for the right as well. Florida has completely lost its swing state status, for instance. If it really was true that West Coast transplants vote Democrat, surely we'd have seen a shift toward the left in the states with the most West Coast transplants, and the opposite has happened. The most-conservative were much more likely to flee, and they have enhanced the GOP voting base in the places receiving the most incoming Californians.
 
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Drip Torch said:
DEI is bullshit. DEI doesnt start wildfires.

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But its easier to place blame, than fix a problem.
Convince me otherwise.
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The problem is incompetent land management.
Land management is done by people.
The people hired weren't the best at land management, they were the best at filling checkboxes.

Thank you for attending my Ted talk.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I heard the water was diverted to protect smelt, a type of fish.

(Trump mentioned that so of course those SJWs do not like that.)
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We're still fukin' doing this?

Water in this state is not a trolley problem where you have to choose between a fish and the city of LA. (Be cool if it was; I'd pick the fish every day.)

The Delta (of Delta smelt fame) is a huge wetland/island/river channel complex 400 miles north of LA. This is where the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers flow together before discharging to the Bay. The whole area is at sea level so needing to prevent saltwater intrusion is a big problem. The politics of the area and water management in the area are complicated. When NorCal floods, the Delta floods, and when NorCal is in a drought, there's a big argument about water.

What is true is that the "straw" for San Joaquin Valley ag and the city of LA is stuck right in the middle of the Delta. LA is laboring under the misimpression that they have some kind of right to this water, so every time there's a cutback, they chimp out. (The farmers also believe that they are entitled to this water, which is its own argument.)

From the perspective of the rest of California, LA does not have a right to this water. We got our own problems here and fuck LA. I'd rather the big trees in my yard make it through a drought than LA assholes keep their pools topped off and their cars washed.

Shit, LA drained a whole lake (Owens) in Eastern California, and the dry lakebed causes nasty air pollution. If you've heard of Mono Lake, LA wanted to do the same thing there but various groups put a stop to it. They will descend like locusts and drink you dry and not give a single fuck.

These shitbirds were having flooding in their own city last year, but did they capture any of the water and store it locally? Of course not. They're stuck on the NorCal tit.

Asking why all these pools are full while the local reservoirs are empty might result in some people behind podiums getting a little sweaty, so yeah, fuck the fish.
 
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