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[Doctor of Autism]

They actually made an American psycho 'sequal' starring Mila Kunis. It was awful and really stupid.

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That one doesn't really count. Since it was just some random horror movie that they slapped the American Psycho name onto at the last minute in hopes it would sell. The only scene it had that even connected it to the first is Patrick Bateman dying without showing his face.

 

[Mao Hao Hao]

Got to ask, is there anything resembling "gourmet food" at disney anymore? Heard the quality has gone to she shitter and the whole plan is to put the crappies thing possible with a disney logo on top and call it cuisine.

I'm pretty sure they still have the high ticket joints like Victoria And Alberts but no clue if they're actually anything by overpriced food joint standards.

there was sort of a weird thing where originally Disney came in and dragged Orlando up from boiled peanut stands, now Orlando is actually sort of big shit for food places and Disney's been fading for years

American Disney has terrible food, but the parks in Japan and China have pretty high quality food. Probably due to the fact that those are not actually owned by Disney themselves, merely rented or something, so have much better ownership in control. They still have the old splash mountains and such too, and better quality rides and entertainment overall.

 

[Trilby]

American Disney has terrible food, but the parks in Japan and China have pretty high quality food. Probably due to the fact that those are not actually owned by Disney themselves, merely rented or something, so have much better ownership in control. They still have the old splash mountains and such too, and better quality rides and entertainment overall.

True, while America loses a lot of its own attractions, Japan gets the classics to stick around longer.

 

[Kit Marz]

Family wanted to get together and go on a Disney cruise. We went on the first ship they built, the Disney Magic. I've been increasingly disappointed in both the theme parks and movies and had low expectations for the cruise. To my surprise, the cruise felt like how Disney used to be. It almost felt like a bizarro world where Frozen didn't exist and Tangled was the mega hit that Disney put all their money into. As a result, the traditional Disney movies were the ones that were emphasized. I don't think they played a single one of the remakes in any of the theaters the entire time. Everyone on the ship was helpful and courteous and the entertainment and live shows were really well done. They even recreated fantasmic for one of the dining experiences.

I had gone on a different cruiseline before, but this one felt more personal. For as much as I've come to loathe Disney, the child me who loved them was happy that at least a portion of their company still remembers what made them special.

 

[Betonhaus]

Family wanted to get together and go on a Disney cruise. We went on the first ship they built, the Disney Magic. I've been increasingly disappointed in both the theme parks and movies and had low expectations for the cruise. To my surprise, the cruise felt like how Disney used to be. It almost felt like a bizarro world where Frozen didn't exist and Tangled was the mega hit that Disney put all their money into. As a result, the traditional Disney movies were the ones that were emphasized. I don't think they played a single one of the remakes in any of the theaters the entire time. Everyone on the ship was helpful and courteous and the entertainment and live shows were really well done. They even recreated fantasmic for one of the dining experiences.

I had gone on a different cruiseline before, but this one felt more personal. For as much as I've come to loathe Disney, the child me who loved them was happy that at least a portion of their company still remembers what made them special.

either Disney Cruises is managed from a different company that just licensed the IP, or Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy forgot it existed so didn't tamper with it.

 

[Kit Marz]

either Disney Cruises is managed from a different company that just licensed the IP, or Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy forgot it existed so didn't tamper with it.

I'm thinking that because it's the oldest ship and they are focused on the new ships that have been launched in the last couple of years, this one gets to stay in the past, which to me is a good thing. It has modern amenities and is well maintained, so it's not like it's completely forgotten. The cruise line itself is wholly owned and operated by Disney.

It was also surprising that there was a distinct lack of Disney adults. I saw maybe two of them. The rest were for the most part normal people. Again, I think because of Disney has recently launched new ships, so the fanatics go to the newer ones.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Everyone on the ship was helpful and courteous and the entertainment and live shows were really well done

this is the thread for it, but i assumed disney was still like that? from what friends have said it was like that a decade ago and the 2000s was the peak.

 

[Kit Marz]

this is the thread for it, but i assumed disney was still like that? from what friends have said it was like that a decade ago and the 2000s was the peak.

Last time I went to one of the parks was in 2021 and it wasn't. Granted, it was during covid, so I don't know if it's changed since then, but it really felt like the guests were inconveniencing the workers while I was there. The parks have also made a concerted effort to remove most of their entertainment, especially at Disneyland. There are a lot of street performances that just don't exist anymore. If it doesn't bring money directly, they aren't interested in it.

 

[SpiderBitch]

Family wanted to get together and go on a Disney cruise. We went on the first ship they built, the Disney Magic. I've been increasingly disappointed in both the theme parks and movies and had low expectations for the cruise. To my surprise, the cruise felt like how Disney used to be. It almost felt like a bizarro world where Frozen didn't exist and Tangled was the mega hit that Disney put all their money into. As a result, the traditional Disney movies were the ones that were emphasized. I don't think they played a single one of the remakes in any of the theaters the entire time. Everyone on the ship was helpful and courteous and the entertainment and live shows were really well done. They even recreated fantasmic for one of the dining experiences.

I had gone on a different cruiseline before, but this one felt more personal. For as much as I've come to loathe Disney, the child me who loved them was happy that at least a portion of their company still remembers what made them special.

I also imagine that a set maxinum number of people on the ship makes it a more chill environment that the overly bloated parks, even with less space managing 2.000 people is easier than managing 200.000.
Also probably more difficult to make major changes to a cruiseship that you need to be completely operative most of the time, wheras with the parks its pretty easy to close down single attractions.

Also no genie+ bs, but I do wonder what extra things you had to pay for?

For the newer ships, disney wish the ship is indeed a bit of a mess with confusing design choices and less soul as far as ive heard.

 

[Kit Marz]

I also imagine that a set maxinum number of people on the ship makes it a more chill environment that the overly bloated parks, even with less space managing 2.000 people is easier than managing 200.000.
Also probably more difficult to make major changes to a cruiseship that you need to be completely operative most of the time, wheras with the parks its pretty easy to close down single attractions.

Also no genie+ bs, but I do wonder what extra things you had to pay for?

For the newer ships, disney wish the ship is indeed a bit of a mess with confusing design choices and less soul as far as ive heard.

The only upcharges were wifi, you got free limited wifi for messaging through the cruise app or any wifi based massaging app, alcohol, and the premium restaurant, but the included rotating restaurants you're assigned to are more than enough. The excursions are also obviously extra. It's also the only cruise I've heard of that offers free soda and other soft drinks. I definitely think it's worth it, especially if you have kids. There was so much for kids and parents to do either together or alone that I haven't seen in other cruises.

 

[Cnut]

Disney cruises sound like they're well managed but it just seems kind of "goofy" having everything themed Disney. Like, it's just too much, man. Plus how they stymied the investigation when that employee chick "fell overboard" is pretty disgusting. All those ships registered in the Bahamas so they don't have to comply with US laws (especially tax laws, but also rape, murder, etc) is completely reprehensible .

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Disney cruises sound like they're well managed but it just seems kind of "goofy" having everything themed Disney. Like, it's just too much, man. Plus how they stymied the investigation when that employee chick "fell overboard" is pretty disgusting. All those ships registered in the Bahamas so they don't have to comply with US laws (especially tax laws, but also rape, murder, etc) is completely reprehensible .

That's basically all cruises running shady in some armpit nation for regulatory issues afaik

True, while America loses a lot of its own attractions, Japan gets the classics to stick around longer.

They still have God's chosen blue and white plastic Tomorrowland

 

[X-avier cuck]

@Coo Coo Bird Puerto Rico is filled with stuff like like that but I'm also meant that he isn't like Rachel where she will publicly dog out people even if they happen to be the hand that feeds her.

She threw the original cast of West Side Story under the bus during her now infamous interview with various move outlets.

The rule of thumb is the nine old men and their working environment because not only were they all different but they all had different political affiliations.

Ward Kimball was not only very goofy and good at doing cartoony animation, but was incredibly liberal minded to the point that he might be seen as a leftist today and even independently worked on a bunch of progressive projects.

Eric Larson was a Mormon and a traditionalist.

Walt Disney himself was very conservative, but none of that really stopped them from working together and producing top notch animation.

I can't really say the same for Disney now because they'll just pick things based off of what color they are and or if it's trendy.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

its crazy because like there are legit things for adults to do at disney, they have like a "eurovision" for gourmet food every year, and plenty of other things besides going on the rides and meeting the characters, Epcot has concerts and shit and really tried to embrace a "year round worlds fair" that only an adult could truely enjoy. but these manchild really fucked the meaning of a disney adult with this shit.

100%. I've actually been on a couple of Disney Cruises with just my husband ... Disney Cruises are actually the best "childless adult" Disney vacations you can take, in my opinion. They do a fantastic job at separating the couples and the families. Lots of bars, adult-only dining, adult-only pool areas, etc.

I have no problems with adults who enjoy theme parks and Disney-- if that's what makes them smile, then more power to them. Hell, wear those Mickey and Minnie ears while being dorks, for all I care. Have fun!

There's definitely a line that's been crossed by the weirdos though. And when you meet one of the weirdos, you know it. lol. It's like the scene from A Christmas Story, where you're Ralphie waiting in line for Santa and the weird kid wearing the pilot hat and goggles tries to talk to you ...

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

https://archive.ph/HRtMA

The filing of Friday’s lawsuit follows a court ruling in November that Disney doesn’t have to face an identical copyright lawsuit brought by Woodall over Moana because he sued too late. The release of Moana 2 allowed him to initiate further legal action.

In that case, the court found that a jury should decide whether the works at issue are substantially similar if the statute of limitations had not passed. It also concluded that an individual at Disney Animation TV may have seen copyrighted materials for “Bucky” prior to the beginning of development for Moana, which was released in 2016. “There is a disputed issue of genuine fact regarding substantial similarity and striking similarity between the parties’ works,” wrote U.S. District Judge Consuelo Marshall in the order.

Starting in 2003, Woodall says he provided the screenplay and a trailer for “Bucky” to former Mandeville Films director of development Jenny Marchick, now DreamWorks Animation’s head of development for features. She allegedly asked about providing further materials — including character designs, production plans and storyboards — by assuring him she could greenlight the film. At the time, Mandeville had a first look deal with Disney and had offices on its facilities in Burbank, according to the complaint.

The lawsuit points to similarities between Moana and “Bucky.” One example: both celebrate a recurring theme of the Polynesian belief in spiritual ancestors manifested as animals. Other similarities include the protagonist’s journey starting with a turtle, a plot involving a symbolic necklace, a main character who encounters a demigod adorned with a giant hook and tattoos and a giant creature that’s concealed within a mountain.

“Disney’s Moana was produced in the wake of Woodall’s delivery to the Defendants of virtually all constituent parts necessary for its development and production after more than 17 years of inspiration and work on his animated film project,” states the complaint. Also at issue are alleged overlaps between “Bucky” and Moana 2. Both works, for instance, feature the protagonist searching for an ancient island and undertaking a missions to break a curse. The lawsuit adds, “Moana and her crew are sucked into a perilous whirlpool-like oceanic portal, another dramatic and unique device-imagery found in Plaintiffs materials that could not possibly have been developed by chance or without malicious intentions.” Woodall seeks damages equivalent to 2.5 percent of Moana‘s gross revenue, or $10 billion, as well as a court order barring further infringement of his copyrights.

The full lawsuit PDF is attached. I don't even give a shit if Woodall's claims are true or not, anything that makes Disney waste even more of their money is a W.

 

[Screamer_2]

Not looking at that with any detail, it all seems kind of generic with making a film on some similar ideas.

 

[Trilby]

Ward Kimball was not only very goofy and good at doing cartoony animation, but was incredibly liberal minded to the point that he might be seen as a leftist today and even independently worked on a bunch of progressive projects.

True. This is still a classic!

I can't really say the same for Disney now because they'll just pick things based off of what color they are and or if it's trendy.

Sad.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

https://archive.ph/V6kyE

Wow, $15 million out of the almost $200 billion that you're worth! So generous!

 

[X-avier cuck]

Brace your souls gentleman because Snow White is in sight.

Mufasa manage to make Beckett's money thanks to the soundtrack becoming a hit but nobody attached to that film as any negative stigma the same way Rachel zegler does.

Snow White is the first animated film that Walt made that essentially put him an animation on the map not only in the States but around the world.

People are going to be a lot less kind to this compared to something like a Lion King which is already kind of been sequalized to death.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Brace your souls gentleman because Snow White is in sight.

Mufasa manage to make Beckett's money thanks to the soundtrack becoming a hit but nobody attached to that film as any negative stigma the same way Rachel zegler does.

Snow White is the first animated film that Walt made that essentially put him an animation on the map not only in the States but around the world.

People are going to be a lot less kind to this compared to something like a Lion King which is already kind of been sequalized to death.

Just in case it needs to be said, though I doubt any Farmers are going to waste their money on this film.

(Or just pirate it, that works too I guess.)