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The California wildfires could be leaving deeper inequality in their wake
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Terry Tang, Jennifer Sinco Kelleher, and Jae Hong
2025-01-12 22:21:55GMT
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FILE - A resident sprays their property with a garden hose as the Eaton Fire engulfs structures across the street, Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2025 in Altadena, Calif. (AP Photo/Ethan Swope, File)

ALTADENA, Calif. (AP) — The sight of celebrity mansions and movie landmarks reduced to ashes can make it seem like the wildfires roaring through the Los Angeles area affected a constellation of movie stars.

But a drive through the charred neighborhoods around Altadena shows that the fires also burned through a remarkable haven for generations of Black families avoiding discriminatory housing practices elsewhere. They have been communities of racial and economic diversity, where many people own their own homes.

Some now fear the most destructive fires in California’s history have altered that for good. Recovery and rebuilding may be out of reach for many, and pressures of gentrification could be renewed.

Samantha Santoro, 22, a first-generation college student at Cal Poly Pomona, remembered being annoyed when the initial news coverage of the wildfires focused more on celebrities. She and her sister, who attends UC Berkeley, worry how their Mexican immigrant parents and working-class neighbors who lost their homes in Altadena will move forward.

“We don’t have like, ‘Oh, I’ll just go to my second home and stay there,’” Santoro said.

The landlord of their family’s two-bedroom house with a pool had never increased the $1,650 rent, making it possible for the Santoros to affordably raise their daughters. Now, they’re temporarily staying with a relative in Pasadena. The family has renters insurance but not much else.

“I think it’s hard to believe that you have nothing,” Santoro said, through tears, thinking of her parents. “Everything that they ever worked for was in that house.”

Altadena had been a mix of tiny bungalows and magnificent mansions. The community of 42,000 includes blue-collar families, artists, entertainment industry workers and white-collar ones. About 58% of residents are non-white, with one-fourth of them Hispanic and nearly a fifth Black, according to Census data.

During the Civil Rights era, Altadena became a rare land of opportunity for Black Americans to reach the middle class without the discriminatory practices of denying them access to credit. They kept homes within the family and helped others to flourish. Today, the Black home ownership rate there is at 81.5%, almost double the national rate.

That’s impressive considering 92% of the 15,000 residences in Altadena are single-family homes, according to the 2023 Census American Community Survey. The median income is over $129,000. Just over 7% of residents live in poverty.

Victoria Knapp, chair of the Altadena Town Council, worries that the fires have irreparably changed the landscape for these families.

“Someone is going to buy it and develop who knows what on it. And that is going to change the character of Altadena,” Knapp said, adding that those with fewer resources will be disproportionately hurt.

The family of Kenneth Snowden, 57, was one of the Black families able to purchase a home in 1962. That house, as well as the one Snowden bought almost 20 years ago, are both gone.

He is challenging state and federal officials to help all fire-affected communities fairly because “your $40 million home is no different than my $2 million home.”

Snowden wants the ability to acquire home loans with 0% interest. “Give us the ability to rebuild, restart our lives,” he said. “If you can spend billions of dollars fighting a war, you can spend a billion dollars to help us get back where we were at.”

Shawn Brown lost not only her home but also the public charter school she founded in Altadena. She had a message for fellow Black homeowners who might be tempted with offers for their property: “I would tell them to stand strong, rebuild, continue the generational progress of African-Americans.”

She and other staff at Pasadena Rosebud Academy are trying to raise money to rebuild while looking at temporary sites in churches.

But even some churches have burned. At Altadena Baptist Church, the bell tower is pretty much the only thing still standing.

The Rev. George Van Alstine and others are trying to help more than 10 church members who lost homes with needs like navigating insurance and federal aid. The pastor is worried the fires will lead to gentrification, with Black parishioners, who make up half the congregation, paying the price.

“We’re seeing a number of families who are probably going to have to move out of the area because rebuilding in Altadena will be too expensive for them,” he said.

The 32-year-old photographer Daniela Dawson, who had been working two jobs to meet the $2,200 rent for her studio apartment, fled the wildfires with her Hyundai SUV and her cat, Lola. She lost almost everything else, including thousands of dollars of photography gear.

She did not have renter’s insurance. “Obviously now I’m thinking about it. Wish I had it,” she said.

Dawson plans to return to Arizona, where she lived previously, and regroup. But she likely won’t be returning to Altadena.
 
"I survived the holocaust, I'll survive this too"
- some 44 year old Jew probably

"My parents were lost in the holocaust and now I have lost everything."
- some 44 year old Jew probably
The Jews and the Californians venn diagram overlaps on "They deserved it" and "X wasn't enough, if it even happened".
 
So, what's the current sitch on conspiracy theories? Why did TPTB burn down LA? Was it to remove Palisades early enough to replace it with an updated Smart City ahead of the Olympic Games 2028? Delta City style?
Was it to burn evidence for Hollywood child rape rings before Trump goes into office and fucks them all up?
Yes. The answer is yes. The only real question I have is how badly out of control this fire is for the Dems and business bastards.

It would be nice to see them to burn in a hell of their own making.

The Jews and the Californians venn diagram overlaps on "They deserved it" and "X wasn't enough, if it even happened".
It still blows my mind that I never would have held sympathy to such a viewpoint 5 years ago.

Mel Gibson was literally just ahead of the time.
 
There's a good rant about the reservoirs and water in California.
January 12, 2025

California: aren't oceans water?​

By Mike McDaniel


Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to pump. As the California wildfires continue to reduce substantial portions of the Los Angeles area to ash, Gavin Newsom, Karen Bass, LA’s possibly or possibly not fired lesbian Fire Chief and various other politicians are finger pointing and trying desperately to avoid questions while seeking someone, anyone to blame. While not every hydrant in the area was bone dry, far too many were, and the Chief don’t know nuthin’ ‘bout birthin’ no water:...

....We’re also learning more about the empty, 117-million-gallon Santa Yenez reservoir, which was initially said to have been empty for about a year due to a torn “floating cover.” The LA Times has published a photo from 2022 showing it empty then. Even better, there’s Google Earth evidence it may have been empty as far back as 2009:
 
Just leaving this hear here, lmao


Federal law requires captioning operators to type every single word a caller says -- even if it's a scammer swindling a disabled person. One Bay Area family found out their nearly deaf mom followed a scammer's instructions -- typed verbatim by CapTel operators - and lost thousands in a terrifying scam.

"Without CapTel, she never would have been able to hear the caller. She never would have understood them and she never would have been scammed," said the woman's daughter, Donna Badgett of Redwood City.

Deaf person gets scammed, decides its the fault of the transcription service. This is why I quit that job, along with the old horny bastards that would call a sex line and make the captions manual, meaning I had to listen to it and make corrections using voiceover. They have automatic captions now where there's not even a live person on the other end to make corrections, so most calls I got were said old fetishists or people who never returned the phone when Mom or Dad passed and didn't even need the captions. Try captioning typical niggerspeak. I got in trouble for inserting "Speaker Unclear" at the wrong time. The entire conversation is unclear bish!

If I'd hear a scam call, I'd insert, "Foreign Language" every other sentence just to try to get the attention of the person reading the captions (and yes I could get in trouble for that). Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

Captel gets paid about $1.50 per minute of this shit, and workers make about $15 per hour to do the most useless, brain-frying job on the planet.

eta: the captel subreddit has determined that there was no live captioner on that call (as no CA number came up at the start of the call), therefore their phone was set for auto-captions - even funnier.
 
𝗧𝗢𝗨𝗥 𝗢𝗙 𝗗𝗘𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗨𝗖𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡: Palisades’ Alphabet Streets Reduced to Rubble and Ruin

That's 1.5 hours of footage. I followed along on Streetview to get a full picture of the destruction - for added doom, you'll notice that a lot of the streets were photographed by Google in December, so houses were decorated for Christmas.

More footage on that channel. Like they're saying in the comments, much better footage than anything we've seen from news media channels.
 
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The fact that there's scamming (and looting) in the wake of the fires shows just how crappy the "culture" of the LA area seems to be.
Except this happened back in the Spring of 2024. Jeets know no bounds. Especially the ones who get pissy and order old women to go get their wallet for their Medicaid number; God knows I wanted to jump through the phone and throttle those scamming asswipes. Just horrible.
 
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