Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

Seeing the Chinese thing makes me wish that a documentary like Empire of Dust could be made where you get to watch the bumbling LAFD and California as a whole get verbally lashed by a grumpy logistics officer. Preferably by a sleepy Asian.
It would just be a Reno: 911! reboot but with firefighters and you know it.
 
okay, awesome, seems like the winds are pushing both major fires in the worst possible directions for the people at risk of being burned by them
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Palisades being pushed southeast (into Santa Monica), Eaton further south/southwest (towards Pasadena, Arcadia). Fun.

SOMETHING IS FUCKED AND ITS NOT ANYTHING IM SEEING DISCUSS, ON HERE OR ANYWHERE

They wont show us THE fire anymore.


Ill say it again, they wont show us the fire anymore.

its 17% contained, there is so is more fire out there than you could shake a stick at. The news choppers only go over new spot fires and ones that firefighters are at and containing.

Starting about 2 nights ago the news began to start using old footage from previous wildfires and old training of airdrops

Its just my opinion based on way to much autistic intake of this intel but im HIGHLY CONFIDENT that the scale of the devastation is so much worse than they are wanting to admit and they are doing everything they can to keep any official sources away from evidence and to label all non "official sources" as misinformation.

I might need to go for a walk Im not sure, this shit just DOES NOT ADD UP TO ME.
I really don't like conspiring while disasters are happening.

THAT BEING SAID, the actual physical cameras on the fire have been useless for days now. They were working perfectly fine before but now I cannot find a single one with a good view of the fire. They're all turned away from the action or offline. It doesn't matter whether it's on the outskirts or the center of the fire, whether it's Eaton or Palisades, this piece of shit image is the best angle I've been able to find of the fire since before the weekend, and all it tells me is that Sierra Madre looks like fucking Beijing right now.
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There is next to no recent visual on the multiple active fires to the point where I can't help but think about it even while they're burning. Best-case scenario the politicians are being complete fucking scumbags and exaggerating how bad the fires are for whatever reason (maybe we can't see anything because they've already been extinguished), worst-case you're right and this is city-destroying levels of damage that haven't even reached their apex yet.

EDIT: forgot to mention that multiple fire-reporting sites are also seriously faltering. I've already mentioned that the official .gov source on the fires is either very slow to update or just outright bad, but the University of California seems to have also stopped updating the biggest fires at least a day ago (given that every single dot relating to them is in the 24+ hour-ago incident zone) and Living Atlas hasn't been incredibly speedy either.
 
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There is next to no recent visual on the multiple active fires to the point where I can't help but think about it even while they're burning. Best-case scenario the politicians are being complete fucking scumbags and exaggerating how bad the fires are for whatever reason (maybe we can't see anything because they've already been extinguished), worst-case you're right and this is city-destroying levels of damage that haven't even reached their apex yet.
Best case scenario HONESTLY is the Newsom, Bass Administration is so nearly SINO their twats are sideways and they have given marching orders to all major broadcast stations, cameras in university, science installations to all turn the fuck off unless you see a heroic, mixed, trans fire-them smother out a blaze with their bare ass and even then maybe only if its threatening one of the local colored orphanages.

I think they can read the comments as good as you and I and decided the blowback from large scale restriction of press and civil liberties is equal if not smaller than 2 weeks of the second largest city in America burning uncontrollably on broadcast TV.

Im honestly incandescent about the whole shit but hey, not worth getting MATI here just understand if my argument seems half formed, Im not sure the goal or what the implications of them not wanting to show us the fire im just VERY CONFIDENT it is happening.
 
Those in this thread for a while will have to have noticed my dumb ass showing up, likely far more than they would like, I appreciate you all at the very least tolerating it, and hope that all it does now is give me the credibility to say

SOMETHING IS FUCKED AND ITS NOT ANYTHING IM SEEING DISCUSS, ON HERE OR ANYWHERE

They wont show us THE fire anymore.


Ill say it again, they wont show us the fire anymore.

its 17% contained, there is so is more fire out there than you could shake a stick at. The news choppers only go over new spot fires and ones that firefighters are at and containing.

Starting about 2 nights ago the news began to start using old footage from previous wildfires and old training of airdrops

Its just my opinion based on way to much autistic intake of this intel but im HIGHLY CONFIDENT that the scale of the devastation is so much worse than they are wanting to admit and they are doing everything they can to keep any official sources away from evidence and to label all non "official sources" as misinformation.

I might need to go for a walk Im not sure, this shit just DOES NOT ADD UP TO ME.
At this point any wacko that can put two and two together may want to play hero by reporting the news as they are. And we all know what's the highest journalistic award that isn't a Pulitzer.

Bad time to get a job interview tomorrow. Feeling pretty schizo.

Question for the more seasoned thread readers, is the fire too far gone to smother it with non-water methods? As if, is it too hot or is there any roadblock my obviously not firefighter ass hasn't accounted for?
 
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Question for the more seasoned thread readers, is the fire too far gone to smother it with non-water methods? As if, is it too hot or is there any roadblock my obviously not firefighter ass hasn't accounted for?
fire big

fire so big if you put out 1 section, the sides next to it not able to be put out at the exact same time will restart on the same fuel the fire that was put out was previously burning.

33 square miles is actively on fire
 
Im not sure the goal or what the implications of them not wanting to show us the fire im just VERY CONFIDENT it is happening.
If there is a conspiracy going on, which I'm not 100% sold on yet, there's reason enough to try and strangle public interest in it. The powers that be are losing the narrative on almost everything. Jews, open borders, tranny shit. A CEO was blown away in broad daylight and the nation celebrated. The last things they'd want are major blows to DEI and "environmentalism". They tried shifting the discussion to climate change. It didn't work. So they decide it's better to just not have the discussion
 
There are political shenanigans going on, but as someone stuck here for now, it’s still on everyone’s minds, just less so. Central LA (Hollywood, South Central, the shithole known as Downtown, Beverly Hills, etc.) has nearly breathable air now. Skies are blue and people are at work, although everyone is still regularly checking the Watch Duty app. The fires have been pushed up to more forested areas, so as people are less affected, people are thinking of recovery more.

The city is nowhere near done fighting the fires yet and I cannot wait until I’m able to leave. Streets are a ghost town, but no water shutoffs, no power outages, just like normal, but with the stench of distant asbestos in the air. There is so much arson; everyone is on edge. Never seen so much hatred of the homeless and “teens” setting things on fire. Truly the class unification Angelenos needed!
 
i want to go back to the 90s
you are living in the culmination of the american attitudes of the 90s
If there is a conspiracy going on, which I'm not 100% sold on yet, there's reason enough to try and strangle public interest in it. The powers that be are losing the narrative on almost everything. Jews, open borders, tranny shit. A CEO was blown away in broad daylight and the nation celebrated. The last things they'd want are major blows to DEI and "environmentalism". They tried shifting the discussion to climate change. It didn't work. So they decide it's better to just not have the discussion
i think theyre a bunch of retards who were too retarded to stock up reasonably and sent the excess to either teach starving african kids how to be gay or to add a new pool to their mansion and the best they could think to do now that there is a fire is to turn away and hope its contained and they can act like it has been safer than it actually was in the interim blackout and\or hope people dont notice the la crater is a lot bigger than what public knowledge of what had happened would have lead you to believe.
 
Question for the more seasoned thread readers, is the fire too far gone to smother it with non-water methods? As if, is it too hot or is there any roadblock my obviously not firefighter ass hasn't accounted for?
Basically the fire is so big that any flames you extinguish will just be relit unless you pour water on the fuel source faster then the heat can evaporate the water.
 
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I was worried maybe its to early to schizo post but I honestly have been following EVERY DETAIL of this I can from the beginning



Above message is the 14th post on this board on the first page in response to someone chirping me for doubleposting (It was pictures of cars being bulldozed in my defense)

Those in this thread for a while will have to have noticed my dumb ass showing up, likely far more than they would like, I appreciate you all at the very least tolerating it, and hope that all it does now is give me the credibility to say

SOMETHING IS FUCKED AND ITS NOT ANYTHING IM SEEING DISCUSS, ON HERE OR ANYWHERE

They wont show us THE fire anymore.


Ill say it again, they wont show us the fire anymore.

its 17% contained, there is so is more fire out there than you could shake a stick at. The news choppers only go over new spot fires and ones that firefighters are at and containing.

Starting about 2 nights ago the news began to start using old footage from previous wildfires and old training of airdrops

Its just my opinion based on way to much autistic intake of this intel but im HIGHLY CONFIDENT that the scale of the devastation is so much worse than they are wanting to admit and they are doing everything they can to keep any official sources away from evidence and to label all non "official sources" as misinformation.

I might need to go for a walk Im not sure, this shit just DOES NOT ADD UP TO ME.
Or taken the other way they wont show you the fire because theyre just bulldozing things instead.
 
If there is a conspiracy going on, which I'm not 100% sold on yet, there's reason enough to try and strangle public interest in it. The powers that be are losing the narrative on almost everything. Jews, open borders, tranny shit. A CEO was blown away in broad daylight and the nation celebrated. The last things they'd want are major blows to DEI and "environmentalism". They tried shifting the discussion to climate change. It didn't work. So they decide it's better to just not have the discussion
Interesting, but don't see it working because so many locals need to be plugged into the Fires' progress and all the causes of it.

Seems like the plan now is prayer. If the fires can stay in the wilderness, maybe Newsom can (fail to) pretend it's all Bass's fault. If it hits another populated area, the news has to report on it.

What I can tell you now is the Eaton Fire is north of the mountains and seems to be staying on that side.
 

LA council delays vote on proposal to pause evictions and rent increases due to fires

The Los Angeles City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to approve a host of emergency responses to the past week’s historically destructive wildfires. But the council delayed one proposal that would have protected Angelenos affected by fires from evictions and rent hikes.

Similar to rules the city enacted during the COVID-19 pandemic, the proposal seeks to stop landlords from increasing rents for one year and halt evictions for tenants who fall behind on rent because they lost income, fell ill or took in additional roommates due to fires.

Instead of taking up the motion introduced by Councilmembers Eunisses Hernandez and Hugo Soto-Martinez, the council diverted the proposal to the Housing and Homeless Committee, where it now faces an uncertain future.

“We're disappointed and frustrated that the council wouldn't act immediately to take care of this during a crisis,” said Jonathan Jager, an attorney with Public Counsel and a member of the Keep L.A. Housed coalition.

Tenant advocates want broad protections​

Jager said tenant rights lawyers are starting to hear from renters facing pressure to quickly leave their apartments so landlords can move in someone displaced by the fires.

“It's not just tenants who lost their homes,” Jager said. “It’s also tenants who may not have a job now if the business they worked at is lost, or tenants who were domestic workers for people who lost their homes. The effects of this are wide ranging.”

Landlords say any new rules should be limited​

Landlord advocacy groups say a return to COVID-era tenant protections would be overreach.

“These emergency motions should deal with the fire and those displaced and immediately impacted,” Fred Sutton, spokesperson for the California Apartment Association, said during public comment at Tuesday’s council meeting.

“We stand ready to do our part,” he added. “But there must be responsible policy making moving forward on housing regulations.”

Some housing motions approved​

Other emergency motions that were swiftly approved Tuesday include a request that the City Attorney’s Office fully prosecute all curfew violations by non-residents in evacuation zones, and a request that the L.A. Department of Water and Power report to the council on the water pressure issues that led to problems with fire hydrants in the Pacific Palisades.

Two emergency proposals related to housing sailed through the council.

One requests the city attorney prepare an ordinance that protects renters from eviction if they take in fire victims and their pets. Those new occupants would normally be banned under the terms of many leases. This motion, however, would not stop landlords from charging the additional 10% rent increase for new occupants allowed under the city’s rent control law.

Another proposal the council approved seeks to increase the penalty for landlords prosecuted for post-disaster rent gouging to $30,000, up from $1,000. In the last week, tenant advocates have collected hundreds of examples of public listings they say have increased rents by more than 10% in the days after the fires broke out.

The proposal from Hernandez and Soto-Martinez needs approval in committee before it can go to the full council for a final vote. Landlord groups say they plan to lobby against sweeping eviction protections for tenants who attest they’ve been harmed by the fires. Tenant advocates say any delay could leave renters vulnerable to losing their housing.

“There's now an influx of renters at least temporarily entering a housing market that was already in a crisis before the fires started,” Jager said. “The pressures are going to be greatly increased.”

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One thing about this fire that makes me happy, and shows that the political winds are changing is seeing law enforcement not fucking around and busting looters all over. Seeing the SMPD release photos of the looters they apprehended to the media and to the cheers of the public seems so unthinkable even four years ago.

I also think there's no way Newsom or Bass could ever recover from this.
 
I taught my nephews to sing "Malibu is burning down" to the tune of the London Bridge childrens song.
Malibu is burning down, burning down, burning down;
Malibu is burning down, hi-ho, de-derry-o!
Palisades is burning down, burning down, burning down;
Palisades is burning down, hi-ho, de-derry-o!
Sierra Madre's burning down, burning down, burning down;
Sierra Madre's burning down, hi-ho, de-derry-o!
Pasadena's burning down, burning down, burning down;
Pasadena's burning down, hi-ho, de-derry-o!
California's burning down, burning down, burning down;
California's burning down, hi-ho, de-derry-o!

One thing about this fire that makes me happy, and shows that the political winds are changing is seeing law enforcement not fucking around and busting looters all over. Seeing the SMPD release photos of the looters they apprehended to the media and to the cheers of the public seems so unthinkable even four years ago.

I also think there's no way Newsom or Bass could ever recover from this.
They should also announce when each one is released without bail or otherwise dropped on the street again.
 
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Mayor Karen Bass was at embassy cocktail party in Ghana as Palisades fire exploded
Los Angeles Times (archive.ph)
By Julia Wick
2025-01-15 00:59:34GMT
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass was at a cocktail party at the U.S. ambassador to Ghana’s residence Jan. 7 as the Palisades fire exploded, pictures posted on social media show.

Bass was in Ghana as part of a Biden administration delegation to the inauguration of Ghanaian President John Dramani Mahama. A gathering for the delegation was held at the U.S. ambassador’s residence in Accra, Ghana, after the inauguration.

Bass had left Los Angeles several days before Mahama’s inauguration, as the National Weather Service intensified warnings about a coming windstorm. She returned to Los Angeles Jan. 8, more than 24 hours after the fires ignited. Her decision to leave the city amid the weather warning and the timing of her return have been heavily scrutinized in recent days, drawing ire and national media coverage.

In the days since the blazes ignited, Bass has been castigated for her early absence by her former mayoral opponent Rick Caruso and others. Pod Save America host Tommy Vietor wrote, “Inexplicable decision to not come back earlier” on X, and Endeavor CEO Ari Emanuel, who backed Bass in the 2022 mayoral race, told Puck, “If it is true that she left the country on a Saturday after the warning came out, that is a dereliction of duty.”

Bass appeared to have been posing for photos at the party just before 8 p.m. Ghanaian time that Tuesday evening, or just before 12 p.m. Los Angeles time, according to a photo posted on social media where an individual’s watch is visible. Evacuation orders were issued in the Palisades minutes later.

The photo was posted on Instagram and LinkedIn by Marissa Bowman, a city staffer who was not part of the official delegation.

“The presidential delegation was hosted by the United States Ambassador to Ghana on the way to the plane,” said Bass spokesperson Zach Seidl, referencing the military flight that Bass took from Accra to Washington, D.C., before boarding a commercial flight to Los Angeles. “For the majority of the time, the mayor was in a different room on calls from L.A.”

Seidl said the delegation left the ambassador’s house between 8 p.m. and 8:30 p.m. local time, departing straight to the tarmac of a military base where the mayor “was on her way back to Los Angeles on a military flight by 9:00 pm.”

That would put her departure from the party between 12 p.m. and 12:30 p.m. Los Angeles time last Tuesday.

Bass arrived in Los Angeles at around 11 a.m. Wednesday.

Other photos posted by Bowman and Ghanaian emcee Nathaniael Attoh show Bass smiling, posing and chatting with attendees. Bowman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The city’s emergency management department alerted Angelenos about the fire on social media at 11:22 a.m. on Jan. 7, writing on X that the Los Angeles Fire Department was “currently addressing a fast-moving brush fire situation in the Palisades Hills area” that already exceeded 10 acres, and warning residents to avoid the area.

Pacific Coast Highway was partially closed at Topanga Canyon Boulevard by 11:30 a.m. that same day, due to the fire, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

By noon that day, thick smoke was visible from across the city. The city issued evacuation orders minutes after 12 p.m.
 
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