Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Russel isn't going to settle until he gets his $255 or whatever it was.

Hardin's fees should be less that amount.

 

[obsdj]

Is a settlement even feasible?

He already whined in an email to Hardin that “you should be working to settle with me” and Hardin politely replied that his client doesn’t wish to settle, but to recover costs from Greer.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Hardin's fees should be less that amount.

But what about Hardin's feelings

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Reasonable costs. Whatever agreements he has with Null are it's own thing. He can ask to be paid for the time he wasted on Russel that in his filings he said he couldn't in good conscious charge Null for. Anything in the scope of what the judge ordered, but Russel isn't going to go for any of it so the 14 day filing will just be giving his spreadsheet to the court.

Exactly. As the 10th Circuit put it, "In other words, an “attorney fee” arises when a party uses an attorney, regardless of whether the attorney charges the party a fee; and the amount of the fee is the reasonable value of the attorney's services. The payment arrangement for an attorney can vary widely—hourly rate, flat rate, salary, contingency fee, pro bono. What the client pays or owes the attorney may not accurately reflect the reasonable value of the services" Centennial Archaeology, Inc. v. Aecom, Inc., 688 F.3d 673, 83 Fed. R. Serv. 3d 48 (10th Cir. 2012)

 

[FamicomGorby]

Hardin's fees should be less that amount.

Kind of a drop in the bucket for someone like Greer when Hardin's costs run into the thousands. Though I'm sure he'll bring it up in his next filing, where Hardin can now tell him it's an actually moot issue.

 

[jerkstore]

Exactly. As the 10th Circuit put it, "In other words, an “attorney fee” arises when a party uses an attorney, regardless of whether the attorney charges the party a fee; and the amount of the fee is the reasonable value of the attorney's services. The payment arrangement for an attorney can vary widely—hourly rate, flat rate, salary, contingency fee, pro bono. What the client pays or owes the attorney may not accurately reflect the reasonable value of the services" Centennial Archaeology, Inc. v. Aecom, Inc., 688 F.3d 673, 83 Fed. R. Serv. 3d 48 (10th Cir. 2012)

UM, you are a legal god among peasants. and we peasants adore you.

 

[Belgians in the Congo]

I'd just like to say
SUFFAH!!!






I'm
7

 

[waffle]

Lol, Russ just fucked his entire life up. I don't know how a guy who's barely solvent recovers from suddenly owing a used cars worth of what's probably nondischargeable debt.

 

[Warm Lasagna]

Now, I’ve got a question. I’ve been searching for a court precedent to support this, but can Hardin also bill Greer for any costs associated with arguing against Greer’s inevitable objections to this court order?

Cuz Hardin has to use billable hours to confer with Greer to stipulate on the costs, and those billable hours would not have occurred had Greer not just followed the rules.

Since Greer is inevitably gonna throw a shit fit over this, can Hardin add any costs associated with countering Greer’s plightsplaining?

If so, then Greer better shut up and pay right now now now now now now before he racks up any more of Hardin’s valuable time.

 

[Schpoots]

We're so back.

 

[Suah Noteb]

Lol, Russ just fucked his entire life up. I don't know how a guy who's barely solvent recovers from suddenly owing a used cars worth of what's probably nondischargeable debt.

Now imagine if Taylor Swift or all the other people he sued had taking his lawsuits personally instead of being willing to lose money to make it go away.

 

[Napoleon III]

Whilst it's not exactly case-ending, and discovery costs are probably a fraction of Null's entire legal bill, it's a start. This assumes that it's possible for Hardin to collect from Russhole, and I can't see that process being easy.

It's going to be a decent chunk of change. Each filing requires hours of research and work. The average reasonable fee is probably around 200-300 dollars an hour. It's going to be at least be 10x the stupid copying fees he has been whining and crying about for months.

Remember that Discovery is one of the more expensive parts of a lawsuit. Tons and tons of hours are spent especially since Russ inflated the costs by being an absolute retard. Just 30 hours of compensation is $6000-$9000 right there. Could potentially be more too depending on how many hours of time Hardin had to put in for this shit.

Sometimes being optimistic is worth it.

we're so fucking back

Feels fucking wonderful tbqh. Counting chickens before they hatch warning though.

Ohhhh yeeeaaaahhhh, that filing was the hit I needed to take the edge off.

Can someone file sanctions against Greer for using the court as his prostitute.

 

[waffle]

Now, I’ve got a question. I’ve been searching for a court precedent to support this, but can Hardin also bill Greer for any costs associated with arguing against Greer’s inevitable objections to this court order?

Cuz Hardin has to use billable hours to confer with Greer to stipulate on the costs, and those billable hours would not have occurred had Greer not just followed the rules.

Since Greer is inevitably gonna throw a shit fit over this, can Hardin add any costs associated with countering Greer’s plightsplaining?

If so, then Greer better shut up and pay right now now now now now now before he racks up any more of Hardin’s valuable time.

Probably, it's reasonably related to the resolution of the discovery dispute.

 

[God's strongest milkman]

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9.8% gang, doubters BTFO

I'm one of the special fee that voted for dismissal. I believed too hard but I'm just glad something, anything happened.

 

[waffle]

Now imagine if Taylor Swift or all the other people had taking his lawsuit personally instead of being willing to lose money to make it go away.

The problem is taylors lawsuit was a rounding error for Her, but this has seriously fucked with Josh. Also Russ has established a clear pattern of vexatious litigation with zero successes. Basically the judge is hollering it's time to stop like Filthy Frank.

 

[talk talk talk]

A good rule of thumb is that an attorney takes about an hour to create a page of a legal filing. That includes the research, etc., that is behind the page of writing.

 

[AnIntrepidCrow]

As with all instances of the sort in Greer's life, him getting fucked comes at a steep financial cost to himself.

 

[But I Digress]

jail at this point would probably be a relief to russ. three free meals, familiar territory, doesn’t owe anything to anyone.

And all the sex he can handle

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Now, I’ve got a question. I’ve been searching for a court precedent to support this, but can Hardin also bill Greer for any costs associated with arguing against Greer’s inevitable objections to this court order?

I would assume that would come as an addendum to his previous costs after he can't make Greer agree.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]