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It was a black swan event. The fire pretty much has killed Newsom's political career as even if he serves the rest of his term, he's pretty much unelectable at this point for the goal of getting him made President. No way it was planned, especially since as previously mentioned by another poster, Newsom was gearing up to make California the state leading the charge in fucking up Trump's shit in his second term. No way would you try and burn down one of your most powerful strongholds on the eve of war with an enemy even more unfettered than Newsom is.
 
What if there's divine intervention keeping the SJWs from trying to take out Trump?

And now said divine intervention allowed the fires to happen to foil Newsom's plan?

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I’m just saying that Gavin didn’t give a shit about dining at the French Laundry while Californians were getting arrested for jogging on the beach in n95 masks.

The idea that he totally never would’ve abided a lil LA fire is kind of where copium metastasizes into hopium
 
I’m just saying that Gavin didn’t give a shit about dining at the French Laundry while Californians were getting arrested for jogging on the beach in n95 masks.

The idea that he totally never would’ve abided a lil LA fire is kind of where copium metastasizes into hopium
Gavin however is now FUBARed in that he's got to kiss Trump's ass and in pleasing fashion lest Trump get revenge on California for all the ways it fucked him over his first term. And even then, this is going to make him politically radioactive.

If he wanted to stage a crisis, he could have faked an attempt on his life or sable rattled that California was totally going to leave the union.
 
Gavin however is now FUBARed in that he's got to kiss Trump's ass and in pleasing fashion lest Trump get revenge on California for all the ways it fucked him over his first term. And even then, this is going to make him politically radioactive.

If he wanted to stage a crisis, he could have faked an attempt on his life or sable rattled that California was totally going to leave the union.
Idk, I think his plan is going to be to act like a cunt and try to crucify trump for not helping.

We should find out pretty soon
 
Gavin however is now FUBARed in that he's got to kiss Trump's ass and in pleasing fashion lest Trump get revenge on California for all the ways it fucked him over his first term. And even then, this is going to make him politically radioactive.

If he wanted to stage a crisis, he could have faked an attempt on his life or sable rattled that California was totally going to leave the union.
What can the federal government do really for the recovery? The fed gov't doesnt rebuild houses after a natural disaster, they rebuild lost infrastructure and do preventative stuff. The federal dollars for Katrina were to rebuild levees, build new levees and improve drainage/pumping infrastructure. None of this infrastructure was lost in these fires. Maybe build more reservoirs except CA already has those approved and just refused to build them. There's not much a federal response can do here.
 
Of course I'm sure Newsom, Bass, and the gaggle of retards in charge of Commiefornia would still have found a way to fuck it all up, plus we all know they hate nuclear energy on principle.
It's easier to make your life far worse than it is to make theirs far better.
It was a black swan event. The fire pretty much has killed Newsom's political career as even if he serves the rest of his term, he's pretty much unelectable at this point for the goal of getting him made President.
Doesn't mean Newsom won't be trying to pin it all on the mayor. His presidential ambition won't die to save some stupid bitch.
What can the federal government do really for the recovery?
They can make it a whole lot harder by sticking exactly to procedure versus cutting as much red tape as possible to help out
 
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What can the federal government do really for the recovery? The fed gov't doesnt rebuild houses after a natural disaster, they rebuild lost infrastructure and do preventative stuff. The federal dollars for Katrina were to rebuild levees, build new levees and improve drainage/pumping infrastructure. None of this infrastructure was lost in these fires. Maybe build more reservoirs except CA already has those approved and just refused to build them. There's not much a federal response can do here.

The problem is not that California's government simply refused to build them. If they did, that would be stupid, but not necessarily insane, since the massive fucking bond for digging new reservoirs (a walloping 7.2 Billion, holy shit) was essentially approved by the Taxpayers. So the money's there, the need is there, what the fuck happened?

Bureaucracy.
Bureaucracy happened.

Every time a new spot was chosen for the reservoir to potentially be dug in, California's deranged EPA requires multiple studies be done on environmental impacts, multiple agencies get contacted on whether or not this qualified as gentrification or not, and only specific licensed contractors be allowed to do each step. The end result of this is an fucking confusing spider-nest of Red Tape that makes NYC look like a fucking joke in contrast. The fucking new Reservoirs were greenlit back when Trump was in his first term; they've spent 4.4 billion of the bond, and they've barely begun groundbreaking. The fucking project is not due to be completed until at least 2028, and very likely will not be completed before 2030 barring federal intervention.

So.... Where did the money go? Why did nothing get done yet?

Endless lawsuits by environmental activist groups who wanted to stop it. They sued so often and so continually that California actually fucking passed SB149 for the purpose of stopping these groups from dragging out these proceedings for half a decade or more while they pulled the fucking same tactic vexatious litigants the world over use. So when you have every one of these little fucking shithead groups all file their own individual lawsuits complaining about their own tiny, very specific issue not to win, but just to endlessly stall, you have these groups quite literally having land development, as it has been in California for over a decade now, by the balls, wasting untold millions of dollars of taxpayer money to fucking do it.

In the end, pretty much the entirety of this fire can be placed on the shoulders of California's systemic mismanagement, but if there is any party who is more guilty than any other when it comes to causing this travesty, making it worse, and actively preventing any attempt from fixing it, it's Californian environmental groups, and it highlights how most of the most aggressive ones almost certainly deserve prison time for this shit.
 
If they try to blame this fire entirely on climate change, they will be laughed off the podiums at the next elections.
Earlier in the thread it was discovered the department of forestry was refusing to start proscribed burns, out of the fear they could get out of control, and they would be blamed.

Apparently their internally stated goal is, let fires start naturally then blame Satan climate change.
 
We really aren't too far removed from ancient times. The general populace has just swapped gods for climate change as the reason why everything happens.
The government is God, its priests wear white raiments, and are called "scientists."
Corporations, climate change, ect. are the adversary(Satan, demons and shit).
It's like 16 years of bad decisions are finally coming to fruition....... or something.
They've been planting explosive eucalyptus trees since 1868. That's 157 years, you're almost an order of magnitude off.
 
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So it's schizo takes over whether the fire is out or whether the fire is still burning and we're being suppressed.

My bold schizo take is that the fire never happened.
I think Occam's razor here is everyone who contributed to this massive fuckup is both in a position of power and has the ability to cover this up to some degree so they are attempting to do that the best they can in the hopes people forget about it and they don't immediately lose their extremely do-nothing easy jobs that pay them hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Or you know, Illuminati and whatever
 
They've been planting explosive eucalyptus trees since 1868. That's 157 years, you're almost an order of magnitude off.
Perhaps one day California will declare war on the invasive eucalyptus but that time is yet to arrive.

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The more I read about them the more the trees seem like the flora equivalent of cockroaches for better and for worse. Very resilient yet quite annoying ecologically.
 
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