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Nothing to see here, except people on fucking fire

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Here it is compared to the Palisades fire:

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I don't even know what to say anymore
it's so hard to find any decent information using the exact same tools Angelenos have available to them. I can't even find the most basic information on multiple sites. I do not want to think of how many lives will be lost due to this.
This is criminal. This is the kind of shit people invented hell for. This is where the people who did this deserve to go when they finally perish.
I know it won't happen. But I hope every single person in LA's government is sentenced to a lifetime of prison rape after this shit
 
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I don't even know what to say anymore
it's so hard to find any decent information using the exact same tools Angelenos have available to them. I can't even find the most basic information on multiple sights. I do not want to think of how many lives will be lost due to this.
This is criminal. This is the kind of shit people invented hell for. This is where the people who did this deserve to go when they finally perish.
I know it won't happen. But I hope every single person in LA's government is sentenced to a lifetime of prison rape after this shit
Reminds me of how China covers up everything.
 
Yeah, wildfires in general were never bad enough I would worry about traveling through the Grapevine whenever I needed to go up North. Now I never want to go in the Summer because I might get caught up in a wildfire.
I grew up in California, and I'd hear about wildfires in the area, but I never experienced smoke in the city. The first time I did was in 2015 in Portland, OR. Supposedly, wildfires aren't more pervasive now, but they do seem way more intense.
 
Any kiwibros in California should just assume that they won't know if a fire is bearing down on them until they look out the window and see the house next door burning.
Any kiwis in California should consider leaving California, if possible.

I don't even know what to say anymore
It's Clown World.
 
@Trombonista would it be possible to move this thread to Happenings so that non-members can also see it? The more information on the fires there is out there the better, and I'm starting to think that this thread is one of the few sources online still giving reliable updates
It has been done.
 
There has been endless El Niño and La Niña BS messing with the weather.
I've lived through several of those before, this is different.
I've been saying since last summer that the sun looks wrong, sunlight feels different, etc.
Don't know what's going on, but something is.
 
I've been saying since last summer that the sun looks wrong, sunlight feels different, etc.
What the fuck, other people have been feeling this shit too?

I thought it was just some retarded form of vampirism that just makes you sensitive and comes from rarely leaving the house, but this fucking summer was unbearable. I live someplace permanently sunny so it stretched into the winter as well, and the damn sun feels so much worse now. Constantly feels like I'm burning when I step outside. Everyone around me seems unaware or unbothered so I truly just thought I was going nuts. The sun was a lot brighter, the sunlight itself was less warm and a lot more searing, etc.

I could still just be schizo. Either that or extremely sensitive. I'm not really known for my tolerance to slightly-abnormal weather. But really I just think there's something up with either the sun or the atmosphere that's making shit feel way worse.

Does anyone know if the sun's been especially overactive as of late? Has the atmosphere been thinning out or anything like that? God knows that, given what China's doing, we have to question shit like that now.

Sorry for the off-topic sperg. Sun's tangentially related to fire, right?
 
What the fuck, other people have been feeling this shit too?

I thought it was just some retarded form of vampirism that just makes you sensitive and comes from rarely leaving the house, but this fucking summer was unbearable. I live someplace permanently sunny so it stretched into the winter as well, and the damn sun feels so much worse now. Constantly feels like I'm burning when I step outside. Everyone around me seems unaware or unbothered so I truly just thought I was going nuts. The sun was a lot brighter, the sunlight itself was less warm and a lot more searing, etc.

I could still just be schizo. Either that or extremely sensitive. I'm not really known for my tolerance to slightly-abnormal weather. But really I just think there's something up with either the sun or the atmosphere that's making shit feel way worse.

Does anyone know if the sun's been especially overactive as of late? Has the atmosphere been thinning out or anything like that? God knows that, given what China's doing, we have to question shit like that now.

Sorry for the off-topic sperg. Sun's tangentially related to fire, right?
Could just be all those efforts to "save the environment" ended up filtering out vital components of the atmosphere responsible for diffusing the sunlight and reducing ultraviolet radiation or something.
 
just give up the water, and there can be an end to the horror!
"My friends... Do not become addicted to water! It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!"
A family friend had a house in an area with 0 fire danger, but plenty of huge Eucalyptus trees. Which would fall during winter storms. So he decided to remove a couple of the ones likely to take out his and a neighbors house. The city fought it, even outside of butterfly season. Finally he got a tree company to come out, write him a letter that they were immediately hazardous and had them removed.

I think they still fined him even though the law said that those sorts of trees could be removed. Still less of a problem than one of the trees taking out his house.

I expect the same thing would happen in any other city in California, even where they're a clear fire danger.
Anyone else remember the article about the Oregonian family that tried to get a tree cut down but were rejected for a permit by the city on account of the tree being deemed non-dangerous, only for said tree to crash into their house? And that was just the start of issues since the city wanted them to get a permit to haul it away and then plant a replacement in its stead. Now yes, that's Oregon, but we all know where the insanity has its roots.
 
LA Mayor Karen Bass failed to deploy highly trained $1M crisis response team to help wildfire victims
New York Post (archive.ph)
By Tami Abdollah and Chris Nesi
2025-01-16 03:26:10GMT
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Does anyone know if the sun's been especially overactive as of late?
Yes, we're currently in the solar maximum for this cycle. Not to sound too much like a hippie, but it's a very powerful thing.
NASA, NOAA: Sun Reaches Maximum Phase in 11-Year Solar Cycle (a)
https://preservetube.com/watch?v=E65T2AV-EjM
 
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There has been endless El Niño and La Niña BS messing with the weather.
2010-15 there were 32 months of neutral ENSO. 2020 through December there were 29 months of La Niña.
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all the winds seem to be moving towards this weird, depressed hole in the radar.
All that website does is put the NWS Global Forecast System on a neat 3D map. The GFS is a computer model that shows weird shit all the time, especially at the micro-level.
 
I grew up in California, and I'd hear about wildfires in the area, but I never experienced smoke in the city. The first time I did was in 2015 in Portland, OR. Supposedly, wildfires aren't more pervasive now, but they do seem way more intense.
Decades of shitty forestry practices in a landscape that's essentially evolved to be flammable by design will do that. Before humans arrived, the whole state would kind of just burn down on its own once every couple decades. That's just what the Californian desert ecosystem do.
But then modern man showed up, and we started building all sorts of fun and cool structures on top of a state that literally just self destructs at random.

We don't like it when our shit gets destroyed, so we've been actively suppressing these fires basically for as long as we've set up permanent settlements in the state. Even the natives figured out that you gotta torch the landscape every once in a while so that fuel doesn't build up and incinerate your ass one day. When a tree falls in California, it's not like a wet Northeastern forest where the log rots away over the course of a few years. It's so dry that a dead tree becomes this bone dry desiccated husk that can sit around for decades. Essentially we've been fucking around with California's ecosystem for a century or so, and we're now in the finding out phase.

And fires like these are really nothing new. Here's a couple photos of the aftermath of the 1961 Bel Air fire, which occurred in the same area as the current Palisades fire and were also driven by Santa Ana winds:

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Crazy that the Deep State had Direct Energy Weapons back in 1961. The houses and cars are completely torched, but the trees are just fine? Hmmmm...

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Also I found this incredibly hard image of then-Senator Richard Nixon spraying down his roof before the fire arrived. IIRC this did actually save the house.

All I know is the weather ain't like it was when I was a kid and I don't like it.
It'll be fine (probably).
 
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