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Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr. said:
Funny coming from him. Say whatever about Slapnuts, at least people watched TNA in the hope that somebody took the title off him during the Tennessee Reign of Terror.

Meanwhile, more people stopped watching the longer MJF held the title, because they stopped caring altogether. :story:
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Jeff probably pushed himself way too much in TNA, but to be fair, TNA was a bit of a clusterfuck and they couldn't always depend on the bigger names that came in, like Scott Hall and Macho Man were there briefly during the early years, but where they really putting in enough effort or even wanted to? Wrestling needs cheesy heels sometimes that you hate and they scrape by with interference, that way it's more satisfying when it's time for the big babyface W. It's not a secret that TNA was a financial mess, and Jeff said he only felt like the pressure was off when they signed Kurt Angle.
 
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Paradox Mystic said:
Jeff probably pushed himself way too much in TNA, but to be fair, TNA was a bit of a clusterfuck and they couldn't always depend on the bigger names that came in, like Scott Hall and Macho Man were there briefly during the early years, but where they really putting in enough effort or even wanted to? Wrestling needs cheesy heels sometimes that you hate and they scrape by with interference, that way it's more satisfying when it's time for the big babyface W. It's not a secret that TNA was a financial mess, and Jeff said he only felt like the pressure was off when they signed Kurt Angle.
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Jeff definitely killed monty brown though
 
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WhimsicalTrolli said:
The dude is 40 in a couple of months
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So is most every main eventer in WWE.





In other news. I’m very sad to see this situation with Moxley happening like it is. I like Jon Moxley a lot and wish it was like the awesome 2019-2021 days with him. Idk why he’s doing all this nonsense. Either he needs to be tard wrangled like Punk or he’s just doing what the bookers tell him and collecting the fat paychecks like everyone else is in AEW…Idk. I’m just upset.
 
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CyrusHowler said:
In other news. I’m very sad to see this situation with Moxley happening like it is. I like Jon Moxley a lot and wish it was like the awesome 2019-2021 days with him. Idk why he’s doing all this nonsense. Either he needs to be tard wrangled like Punk or he’s just doing what the bookers tell him and collecting the fat paychecks like everyone else is in AEW…Idk. I’m just upset.
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It should have been easy booking. Add a new person to make Moxley's gang look more threatening since Wheeler Yuta is a joke to most people, have some faces rally around being Team AEW. You could easily have it built up to a big multi-man match and after a few months finish it with Darby or whatever babyface you want at the end beating Moxley for the belt. Kenny's return, the Elite and some other people could be some questions marks that keep the story interesting, maybe throw in a face turn or heel turn somewhere.

Instead they made things look bad right away by having some faces waiting in the parking lot for the BCC to show up, only for BCC to sneak in the backdoor making the faces immediately look like idiots.
 
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CyrusHowler said:
I’ll give you Melli potentially, but Breakker is one of the most popular guys on the roster and is a dominant IC champion.
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Bron hasn't had a tv match since wargames. He would've been featured on Saturday night or Netflix raw but nah he's in the crowd. Like where is the midcard champions?

Chaos Theorist said:
Moxley should just go back to the WWE
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Nah, he can stay. I think was overhyped & the women who lusted after him back when he had moppy is going to be disgusted.
 
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Moxley would do great in WWE, just look at the before and after of Cody Rhodes in AEW and WWE. People were basically calling for his head and now he's the biggest star in a decade.

Do I think Moxley has that high of a ceiling? No, but just look at how great Penta was presented this week. WWE clearly knows how to market stars, whereas AEW seems to diminish them in every way. And I'm saying this as someone who occasionally likes AEW.
 
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Chaos Theorist said:
Moxley should just go back to the WWE
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You'd get some money out of former shield members fighting and an inevitable shield reformation.

Like you set up Rollins versus Reigns and the shield music hits, both think the other is fucking with the other and then bam Moxley shows up and the brawl starts. Youd make a good bit off the hype, kinda like the first time Moxley showed up in AEW attacking Omega
 
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Whatisgoingon said:
Moxley would do great in WWE, just look at the before and after of Cody Rhodes in AEW and WWE. People were basically calling for his head and now he's the biggest star in a decade.

Do I think Moxley has that high of a ceiling? No, but just look at how great Penta was presented this week. WWE clearly knows how to market stars, whereas AEW seems to diminish them in every way. And I'm saying this as someone who occasionally likes AEW.
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there is a point to be made about that but Moxley has done seriously dumb shit when given creative control over his character and in my personal opinion hes basically unsalvageable at this point, hes in arguably a similar point that Edge is in despite being years younger, at least with Penta he didn't do nearly anything as lame as they have.
 
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Caddo Cobgang said:
there is a point to be made about that but Moxley has done seriously dumb shit when given creative control over his character and in my personal opinion hes basically unsalvageable at this point, hes in arguably a similar point that Edge is in despite being years younger, at least with Penta he didn't do nearly anything as lame as they have.
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To be fair, WWE, just by how they conduct business with sponsors and stuff, would completely eliminate 99% of Moxley's dumb shit like bleeding every match. Cody's problem was also having complete creative control, allegedly, with stuff like the feud with Anthony Ogogo or whatever his name was.
 
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Whatisgoingon said:
To be fair, WWE, just by how they conduct business with sponsors and stuff, would completely eliminate 99% of Moxley's dumb shit like bleeding every match. Cody's problem was also having complete creative control, allegedly, with stuff like the feud with Anthony Ogogo or whatever his name was.
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yeah thats true, most recent example of Cody doing dumb shit was his last match with Lesnar were Brock just kept throwing him out going for a count-out, I guess when you can control the autism you can make anyone look good.
 
Mrsneksnekson said:
You'd get some money out of former shield members fighting and an inevitable shield reformation.

Like you set up Rollins versus Reigns and the shield music hits, both think the other is fucking with the other and then bam Moxley shows up and the brawl starts. Youd make a good bit off the hype, kinda like the first time Moxley showed up in AEW attacking Omega
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Have the shield music hit then it cuts to that awesome theme he had in 2019-2020. Make it for the WHC and you can have a mania feud. Mox would go over of course and then he could have a proper run unlike that first WWE championship run.
Caddo Cobgang said:
in my personal opinion hes basically unsalvageable at this point
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I disagree. Put him back in the camo pants and the black denim vest with the orange spray paint MOX on the back and you’ve got a winner. Even without the hair, he’ll be alright. He’s got a round head so it looks okay bald.
Whatisgoingon said:
To be fair, WWE, just by how they conduct business with sponsors and stuff, would completely eliminate 99% of Moxley's dumb shit like bleeding every match.
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Exactly. Let him get a little extreme once in a while. Little blood here and there. But make him understand that if he bleeds all the time, it isn’t special.
Caddo Cobgang said:
I guess when you can control the autism you can make anyone look good.
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Yes.
 
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