Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

[SpergioLeonne]

Nope, nothing new. Pretty sure I'm just going insane at this point.
I shall simply be crazy while staying in the shade.

There’s the part where the magnetic poles are shifting

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

This just occurred to me, so I wanted say this while it was still on my mind.

I hope this fire burns down the NAMBLA headquarters with all its staff stuck inside.

The fire's not over yet, right?

 

[SpergioLeonne]

This just occurred to me, so I wanted say this while it was still on my mind.

I hope this fire burns down the NAMBLA headquarters with all its staff stuck inside.

The fire's not over yet, right?

I don’t think NAMBLA is confined to California. Barney Frank was a masshole

 

[General Disarray]

I guess I make three. Sun has been bothering me these last few years.

Count me in on this too, as the sun, to me, has gone from friendly warm yellow friend in the sky to a blinding white searing ball of animosity. I used to be a sun goddess, I'd be out transforming my pasty whiteness to a lovely shade of beige every day if I could. Now I BURN, baby. And you can't even glance at it anymore without singing your retinas.

It's like God took out the incandescent and replaced it with some horrible facsimile of an LED, but even hotter.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

I'm seeing some people complaining that the hot spots aren't available anymore on the official maps, see this:

https://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=goes-18&sec=full_disk&x=14031&y=4045.199951171875&z=5&angle=0&im=48&ts=6&st=0&et=0&speed=210&motion=loop&maps%5Bborders%5D=white&maps%5Bcities%5D=white&p%5B0%5D=fire_temperature&p%5B1%5D=geocolor&opacity%5B0%5D=1&opacity%5B1%5D=0.5&pause=0&slider=-1&hide_controls=0&mouse_draw=0&follow_feature=0&follow_hide=0&s=rammb-slider&draw_color=FFD700&draw_width=6

For the past few days there hasn't been much to see if you look at the fire products from the satellite. Likely because what is left of the fires is spread out and smoldering or burning slowly, with the winds being a fraction of what they previously were. The smoke isn't billowing in dramatic plumes anymore, you just see a haze over the area in visible light imagery. There just isn't any of this: https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/s3dl?path=/s3/2025-01/2025-01-09-los-angeles-fires.gif to see anymore (I tried to upload it locally but the forum doesn't like the file)

Nice to see that they still have the maddogs around. Wonder if they still have the DC10 laying around somewhere.

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You've probably seen it by now but there were DC10 tankers out there even before you posted this.

There were pictures of houses burned down to the foundation, absolutely nothing left, and not 5 feet away there is a beautiful green lawn that would make Hank Hill proud. Those standing trees and green lawns were kept well watered. I though Cali had some kind of law/ordinance in place that limited water use for landscaping due to the drought? If anyone is familiar with the water situation feel free to correct me. Maybe it doesn't apply to LA because droughts are for poor people.

A dramatic towering wall of fire didn't sweep through these neighborhoods, fire spread through trees, brush and embers and as such was somewhat random and influenced by landscaping and construction. A house with a metal or tile roof and stucco or cinderblock walls next to a wooden house with a tar roof is much less likely to burn due to embers or getting licked by the flames of surrounding grass or shrubs. A house with thoughtful landscaping that keeps distance from the house instead of just bushes and trees everywhere is less likely to burn. Plus, some (many?) homeowners with irrigation systems turned them on when fires were approaching and just ran them until the power went out, and some put sprinklers on their roofs. Just having a damp yard and house easily prevents embers from spreading fires. If you look at the videos from when guys were driving and riding around days ago when the fires were first doing their damage, you see a lot of isolated houses burning or burned down, random bushes or trees on fire. If it was dry and embers happened to get blown into it, it burned.

Another quirk of California law is that the property taxes are based on the price of the property AT SALE. Which means these multi million dollar properties were paying the value of the land at the start of the 1920s. Now that they have burned though any new reconstruction will have to pay modern valuation in property tax

A lot of states do something similar to this, homestead exemption is similar in that you get locked when you buy and your tax assessment can only go up by a small fixed percentage per year instead of tracking home prices. Florida is another state with a homestead tax structure and an insane real estate market in some areas where tons of people live now but could in no way afford it if they were to try to buy where they currently are.

 

[clipartfan92]

Misinformation about California fires is spreading like, well, wildfire
Pasadena Star-News (archive.ph)
By Jason Henry
2025-01-15 23:12:12GMT

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[Programmer Socks]

Best source I've found for footage: https://www.youtube.com/@SantaMonicaCloseup/videos

Nothing at all about the fires on major news front pages like the BBC, SKY News, Daily Mail etc here in BritBong land. You'd think it was all over and everyone had moved back to their homes. US news sources are frustratingly low on details and the constant ads on their live feeds are annoying in the extreme.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

The annoying thing is, especially as a conservative environmentalist person, is that climate change is a real problem.

Yeah that always frustrates me. I fish, I care about the environment. But most of the time if I mention climate change to other conservative folks I get horrible results. Without saying too much I just want to say, we have had a clear negative effect on aquatic life in places. Some places are effected by more than just increasing temperatures too. China and India are the worst though. Wish we could just glass them.

 

[Throwaway Email Enjoyer]

Palisades allegedly at 21% containment, at this rate it will only take... (let me see)
Another month to reach 100% containment.

Notably, the great fire of Rome took 6 days to bring under control. In 64 CE...

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Yeah that always frustrates me. I fish, I care about the environment. But most of the time if I mention climate change to other conservative folks I get horrible results. Without saying too much I just want to say, we have had a clear negative effect on aquatic life in places. Some places are effected by more than just increasing temperatures too. China and India are the worst though. Wish we could just glass them.

Most of the talking points about anthropogenic “climate change” are retarded, is the problem. Like, if CO2 hit 1,000 ppm, the likely result would be a reversal of desertification because plants would need much less water to conduct their photosynthesis.

All of the carbon in all of the petrochemicals in all of the earth used to be in the environment, because they are the remains of dead things which used to live and walk the earth. So saying that we’ll all die from using gas cars is retarded.

Of course if people over-fish, they can harm a fish population. Of course if you dump industrial solvents in rivers, people will get cancer and die. Pollution is clearly bad and nobody wants to think about the amount of microplastics in their ballsack. But the problem with environmentalists is that they focus on stupid shit that hasn’t even been proven.

If you want to find a way to be pro-America and environmentalist in an effective way, make disposability your enemy. We shouldn’t have toasters and coffee pots that fill landfills, if we weren’t in a race to the bottom with Chinese manufacturing, they’d last your lifetime, and the material wealth they represent wouldn’t be cyclically destroyed, rendering us all poor

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

But the problem with environmentalists is that they focus on stupid shit that hasn’t even been proven.

Environmentalists suffer the same problem the gay lobby has: all their original stated goals were accomplished 30 years ago but the fundraising abilities are too enticing so they refuse to wind down. So instead they invent shit to complain about and the demands get dumber and dumber.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Almost like certain person of interests or powerful agencies would like to suppress information...

GDI won't get away with this!

It's not your land if you can't visit it on your own volition, at a time of your choosing. Maybe you should rethink your stance of "as much as I respect the authorities" and think long and hard about what it's getting you. The government hates you and they are not concerned with you or your property, they're concerned with holding their grip on power which is going to start slipping the longer this goes on.

Bureaucracy allows whole cities to burn down despite it being entirely preventable, and same goes for pet squirrel being taken away at gunpoint and forcibly euthanized. It pains me that so many people fail to realize just how reprehensible authorities can be, especially when given so much control with so little oversight. What fucking respect?

 

[Anonitolia]

To me anyway, the sun seems whiter, the light colder.
That's not saying the temperatures are colder, just the light.
Sometimes outside looks artificially lit.
As for going out into the sunlight, it's less a feeling of warmth on skin as it is feeling like the radiation is burning me.
I wonder sometimes if it may just be old age creeping in, perhaps my skin is getting thinner and my eyesight worse, but it's a bit more fun (and creepy tbh) to blame something else.

Fuck, yeah, that's exactly what I've been feeling too. What the hell man.

Im sorry to pause in this moment of honest despair we all need to feel to ask a vanity question

was I the first, both on this borad and otherwise that you feel called attention to this or do I sound crazy just saying that?

Felt schizo making the post but now feel so good that I might have gien people watching the reasonable doubt to look twice

please let me know if im needlessly sucking my own cock

The latter; I've never seen anyone else bring this up and I thought I was going nuts since nobody else brought it up either. I hope this thread isn't just trolling me with the agreement lmao.

Interesting to know we're in a "solar maximum" according to that one post I can't find? I hope this really is just a seasonal peak in the weather that'll go away naturally. Would suck giant nards if it was actually something serious.

 

[blue gopher snakes]

The Los Angeles Daily News found a similar situation when reviewing Los Angeles’ budget. Critics pointed to a $17 million reduction to the Los Angeles Fire Department‘s operating budget, but those figures did not include $76 million set aside for salaries that increased the budget overall by at least $53 million. However, Fire Chief Kristin Crowley has publicly blamed cuts over the long term for hampering firefighters’ ability to respond to the wildfires.

Oh, so they DID make cuts to the things that mattered but don’t worry friends, the heckin’ good LGBBQ LAFD still got their bonuses.

Firefighting officials and experts have uniformly agreed the localized shortages experienced during the highest firefighting demand in both Pacific Palisades and Altadena were not out of the ordinary and have more to do with the fact that municipal water systems are designed to fight a small number of structure fires, not massive firestorms.

So there WERE water shortages and they happened because of an insufficient supply system.

One reservoir, the Santa Ynez Reservoir, was empty at the time due to safe water drinking regulations and might have helped if it had been online, but there are record levels of water stored across the region, officials said.

So there WAS a drained reservoir. “Record levels of water stored,” means nothing if you zoom in and the affected water storage is bone dry. Also “record” could mean “lowest ever.” Very weaselly.

Kristina Lerman, principal scientist at USC’s Information Science Institute, said that while online conspiracy theories have been common since 9/11, the polarization of the country in recent years has enabled people on both sides of the political spectrum to use disasters to advance their agendas.

“Even I was shocked by how much misdirection of information there is,” Lerman said of the wildfires. “If you want to find out what is happening, where the danger is, it’s not that easy to find.”

SHUTUP THE SMART PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE BAD AND STUPID FOR LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE CONFIRMATION OF CLAIMS MADE ON FOXNEWS!

Restrictions preventing someone from sharing an article before reading could potentially help, but currently none of the social media platforms has such a prohibition, Lerman noted.

Wow this is draconian overreach. Lerman is an interesting surname, I wonder where it comes from.

Lerman credited the emergence of new resources, such as the Watch Duty App, for providing critical and reliable information.

Watch Duty is not new. Just because everyone in the whole world suddenly wanted to stare at the forward progression of one wildfire doesn’t mean the app only came into existence last Tuesday night.

Wineburg, of the Digital Inquiry Group, believes the best solution in the long term is to expand access to digital literacy programs that teach students how to filter through unreliable sources and bad actors, he said. He compared it to learning traffic laws while preparing to obtain a driver’s license.

((Wineburg)) says you need a loisence for that there internet.

 

[Anonitolia]

Here's a map of Eaton courtesy of Watch Duty. It's slightly outdated; multiple sites are now claiming Eaton is at 55% containment, not 45%, so there's probably more contained than this map is showing. The quality is also kind of shitty because the site refuses to let me send it as a proper image so I had to take a blurry screenshot, but the original resolution isn't too much better anyways.


I don't know why the acreage is still so outdated for both fires. Eaton I can somewhat see not making enough headway to warrant updating for multiple days, but Palisades? That shit isn't even a quarter-percentage contained. Why would it just be sitting in place for days straight?

 

[clipartfan92]

The Victims of the L.A. Fires Have Nowhere to Turn
The New Yorker (archive.ph)
By Jay Caspian Kang
2025-01-16 11:00:00GMT

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The aircraft autists should enjoy this, includes video from onboard a Coulson Chinook.

In the Heat of Battle With Tanker 47
New York Magazine (archive.ph)
By Jeff Wise
2025-01-16 05:00:11GMT

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[Throwaway Email Enjoyer]

Interesting to know we're in a "solar maximum" according to that one post I can't find? I hope this really is just a seasonal peak in the weather that'll go away naturally. Would suck giant nards if it was actually something serious.

Those Solar cycles are a bit fickle and last 9‒14 years. The mechanics of it are a bit too complex for me, because >Magnetohydrodynamics, but it's perfectly natural and doesn't really have long term effects on climate, since it is short and averages out in the long run.

Short term it's a sizable amount of extra activity, on the order of 0.1% solar output from what I've read. But that amounts to one extra Watt of solar energy per m². I doubt you could feel that on the skin and as far as I know the Solar emission spectrum cannot change because of it, since the color of the light that arrives here is determined by the contents of the solar atmosphere and its overall temperature, which doesn't vary by that much, at least I don't think so.

Some solar maxima are hotter than others, though, and afaik the most recent grand maximum was last century, and those are sorta rare. I'm not aware if we are in a period of exceptional solar maximum, I'm not a sun spot counter.

All subjective experience aside, air quality, pollution/particulates, humidity and temperature, as well as Ozone concentration in the stratosphere and where you are on the globe all change how the light arriving from the Sun feels here on the ground, so basically beats me bro.

 

[ZazietheBeast]

I've only skimmed through the pages here, but my impression is that you guys think they have stopped showing the fires and detailed descriptions of fires?

Is it possible that they are suppressing all this info with the justification that it encourages people to light more fires?

And the added bonus is that the leadership's incompetence isn't on full display any longer.

Unironically. Any 3rd world government especially when ran by incompetent egotists will suppress information. Which leaves the citizenry to report on their own. And when you have the state's hand up the media's ass (in the case of California, the Cathedral), they'll make any excuse to suppress news.

As for lighting fires, plenty of illegals have tons of incentive to do so. For starters, not their country. Secondly, easier loot or simply want to burn down a so-called 'first world country'. Just like any roaming barbarians do. Aside from illegals, you got the hobos and browns doing it because they can.

And for extra irony, illegals are ushered in hand over fist as well as catering to non-whites. So this is making California look even more insane as a result. This is a Wizard of Oz moment where the big green head tells everyone to not pay attention to the man behind the curtain.

 

[Otterly]

Re: sun being whiter. I’ve noticed this too. I suspect at least partly it’s because the atmosphere has fewer sulphur dioxide particles in it.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

RE: people saying the sun is hotter/whiter/burning you more easily

Congratulations, you're getting old.