Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

[Nero Fiddled]

First of all, since Trans Women Are Women, excluding them from sport is harming women and therefore not protecting women.

Yes, and if we take that a step further, we're back to the "women can have penises" mantra again.

I always find that mentally replacing "trans" with "fake" cuts through the intentional pseudointellectual linguistic trickery that we see every day of the week.

 

[SkibidiRizzler99]

Yes, and if we take that a step further, we're back to the "women can have penises" mantra again.

I always find that mentally replacing "trans" with "fake" cuts through the intentional pseudointellectual linguistic trickery that we see every day of the week.

If you squint reaaaaaaaaly hard then he kinda looks like a vague outline of a woman so it’s transphobic to not want him to beat up your daughter

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

South Carolina tees up a permanent tranny bathroom ban.

SC Lawmakers pushing for permanent ban of opposite-gender bathroom use in schools

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

#Winning

Utah Governor says troons do not belong in women's college dormatories.

Governor: state law may need 'tweaks' after USU transgender RA raises concerns

 

[Izdaja Slika]

It says men are banned from competing in women's sports. But what about the other way around? This really needs to apply to all transgenders. I know pooners aren't going to beat men at sports, but winning isn't the purpose of school sports. A bunch of BP girls larping as boys will definitely ruin the experience of school sports for a lot of boys as well.

It should have been written that way, but that would not stop me voting for it.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Local politician needs a month off of work to cope with criticism of their special gender delusions.


The first openly nonbinary lawmaker in Massachusetts history is taking a leave of absence after they allegedly dealt with transphobia from colleagues, including Worcester's mayor.

Thu Nguyen, who has served as an at-large councilor since 2022, says their "hiatus" is to prioritize their mental health and emotional safety after they were allegedly subjected to a discriminatory and toxic culture on the Worcester City Council. Nguyen also said this month off will be to forge a path to address this support, asking for support in holding Worcester to a moral and legal standard "that feels like the bare minimum."

"We deserve a government that is welcoming, embraces and takes pride in our LGBTQ+ community. As the first nonbinary elected in Massachusetts, I have always said for me it's not just about identity politics. Making history as the first is one thing, what you do with it is another," Nguyen wrote in a public statement. "I hope by speaking up against transphobia and hate, many of you will join me in pushing for a political reimagination of a government that holistically cares and serves everyone which rightfully includes the LGBTQ+ community."

Nguyen has filed a complaint and formally requested the city's chief equity officer open an immediate investigation and create an action plan to address this matter.

"It is unfortunate, as we transition under a Trump administration and exponential increase of fear experienced by the LGBTQ+ community that I, as a City Councilor At-Large of Worcester, had to file a complaint to our Executive Office of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion about my experience in the past 3 years of dealing with transphobia and a discriminatory and toxic council culture, being misgendered by Mayor [Joseph] Petty and Councilor At-Large [Kathleen] Toomey publicly on the council floor and recently learning that District 2 Councilor [Candy] Mero-Carlson has been referring to me as 'it' multiple times," Ngueyen wrote in a statement posted to Facebook.

"These hateful acts are unbecoming of a legislative body whose duty is to serve our communities and to honor and enforce anti-discrimination laws. My filing of a complaint’s aim is to hold electeds accountable to moral and legal standards during a vulnerable time of crisis for the LGBTQ+ community," Nguyen continued. "Many turn to Massachusetts, one of the progressive LGBTQ+ supporting states as a safe haven, and yet here in Worcester, the second largest city in Massachusetts and New England, our commitment and safety is tainted by government leadership that does not hold the same values and care for the dignity and humanity of the LGBTQ+ community members. I ask electeds and officials in our commonwealth and nationally to not dismiss and ignore the severity and harm that this has on our community and I urge you all to speak out against it."

Mero-Carlson, Toomey and Petty have all responded to the allegations against them, commenting on social media Wednesday.

Worcester city councilor taking ‘hiatus' after alleged transphobic comments

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

Its the same here. I live in a blue state that has very pro trans laws here and yet I've only bumped into maybe 5 trans people (3 TIMs and maybe 2 non binaries?) in the past 10 years here. Its funny because with how many kids online identify as trans its proving to me that its mostly a social contagion/grooming. There's a few schools near where I live and usually when I take my jog, I never once saw any trans kids. Its honestly making me wonder if these trans teens accounts are even really trans or maybe its LGBT internet theory. (play on dead internet theory)

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[Surfin Terf]

The first openly nonbinary lawmaker in Massachusetts history is taking a leave of absence after they allegedly dealt with transphobia from colleagues, including Worcester's mayor.

Thu Nguyen

Of course she wears a keffiyah

And of course she's fat

And ugly

And she sounds like she might be legit retarded (preservetube link)

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

I wonder what happens to the "life saving medicine" bullshit after the SCOTUS explictly rules that it isn't.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

I wonder what happens to the "life saving medicine" bullshit after the SCOTUS explictly rules that it isn't.

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"I'm going to keep sending bathtub troonshine to kids!"
Keep incriminating yourself, man.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

God, I hope this is true!

Cope and seethe!

 

[CervixHammer]

And they would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for meddling with kids.

 

[Clotso Coof]

God, I hope this is true!

I'm so glad Tiktok got an extension. We need to see all the videos of the meltdowns and suicide baiting from freakshow AGPs. Also the manly tears of the Lil pooners.

I wonder if some European countries might actually start offering asylum to "transwoman athletes" or whoever they feel are most impacted by these executive orders?

 

[soup peddler]

I live in a red (but getting bluer year by year) part of a blue state, and I am extremely worried about this area getting overrun by troons. I see them on reddit talking about how this region is a good place for trans people to move to....

If Congress passes some sweeping national anti-trans laws, can we just push them into Canada?

 

[unctuous mouthfeel]

I too live in a blue state and it's exceedingly likely we are going to lean even harder into being a tranquil oasis of transgender freedom, BUT!
I'm no expert on politics so maybe this question is dumb but: Is there any way the feds can curtail the ability of doctors to prescribe blockers/cross sex hormones for the purpose of transition, thus necessarily detransing all these wounded souls? I used to be able to get an rx for vicodin for a stubbed toe until a bunch of hill folk OD'ed, and I'm pretty sure it was an edict from on high that changed that.

 

[Caesar]

God, I hope this is true!

 

[UncleTusky]

I'm no expert on politics so maybe this question is dumb but: Is there any way the feds can curtail the ability of doctors to prescribe blockers/cross sex hormones for the purpose of transition, thus necessarily detransing all these wounded souls? I used to be able to get an rx for vicodin for a stubbed toe until a bunch of hill folk OD'ed, and I'm pretty sure it was an edict from on high that changed that.

Yes. While medicine is mostly regulated and licensed by states there are a few areas like controlled substances where the feds could step in. If hormone therapy were added to the list of controlled substances there would be no allowance for doctors to use their discretion or states to implement their own, laxer laws.

I'm not a doctor or attorney so take this next bit with a grain of salt but I am not aware of the feds banning a treatment (at least, not one that does not involve a specific drug) so gender surgeries might be harder to outlaw. The easiest solution would be for Trump to expand the executive order he signed today and prohibit any entity receiving federal funds from paying for those surgeries, including insurance which covers them. So many big companies get federal $$$ that it would gut private-sector coverage for troonery overnight as well.

The trickier part would be cracking down on the online troonshine sites - blocking shipments into the country would be difficult when they tend to be sent in small, inconspicuous vials and blocking American users from accessing a foreign hosted troonshine site would be practically impossible since Tor and VPNs exist.

To your anecdote yes, the feds started taking a very broad view of what constituted inappropriate or excessive prescriptions for Vicodin, some doctors were charged under it, the rest got the message and cut back on writing Vicodin scripts or stopped altogether. In tandem with that there were also lawsuits against pharmacies + drug manufacturers that resulted in Rite Aid and Johnson and Johnson filing bankruptcy. I would be shocked if this did not result in attorneys for hospitals/pharmacies telling their clients to stop writing Vicodin scripts unless they want to be next. Legal defense is so expensive that just the threat of prosecution or a lawsuit can accomplish the task.

 

[obsdj]

I am not aware of the feds banning a treatment (at least, not one that does not involve a specific drug) so gender surgeries might be harder to outlaw.

I don't think lobotomies are actually illegal in the United States, but mental health and neurological issues are far better understood than they were 75-100 years ago, plus we have much better equipment for diagnosing and treating brain problems (though we certainly still have a lot to learn). It's to be hoped that these gender butcheries will eventually be seen as just as barbaric as those old ice pick jobs. Unfortunately, the internet has made such things more popular than they should be. Legislation may be in order.

 

[Caesar]

I'm not a doctor or attorney so take this next bit with a grain of salt but I am not aware of the feds banning a treatment (at least, not one that does not involve a specific drug) so gender surgeries might be harder to outlaw.

could you not at least standardise the procedure(s) and shut down 90% of these chop shops doing incompatible surgeries to each other over night? you could probably standardise the phallo or vaginoplasty no?

 

[Nero Fiddled]

It's to be hoped that these gender butcheries will eventually be seen as just as barbaric as those old ice pick jobs. Unfortunately, the internet has made such things more popular than they should be. Legislation may be in order.

Perhaps it would be easier to try a different approach.

There are some pretty solid arguments that this is all "experimental" as it's not based on research or scientific fact.

Insurance companies, who generally foot the bill for all this nonsense, won't pay for experimental treatments.

Insurance companies have been losing a lot of money lately and would be looking to reduce the number of claims landing with them.

Cut the money off.