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[Helvetia]

SBF and Diddy sharing a cell made me lol. Can you imagine their conversations? What a funny timeline we're living in.

Also @Helvetia, was postage expensive? What was your overall impressions of him, did his reply meet your expectations?

postage was the normal price from Switzerland to the US via Swiss post.

2.5-, so about $2.70. i called ahead to the facility to ask if i could enclose some global stamps for a reply and they told me no.

it cost luigi $1.65 for his forever global stamp. he used the flower one.


the reply was as expected, like i said, i've been writing to prisoners for a long time. he seems fine, if not a little stir crazy. i think a lot of the letters aren't particuarly stimulating, or are written by people who have never written to a prisoner before. they see him as a captive audience, literally. they're asking him about the crime, or trying to start a romantic relationship with him from the offset.

like i said, i probably will write again. the hardest thing is trying to time letters so they don't arrive during times of movement or trial.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

like i said, i probably will write again.

you should, the worst part of prison is you find out how many people that say they'll write forever drop it after a few months. Also yes the biggest problem with prison is the boredom. don't know what level of security he's on but you'd think he'd be reading or working out more.

 

[Terfmaster9000]

He is so cute, kms. Maybe I'll write to him, too.

 

[Moral Decay]

i probably will write again

I'll be looking forward to my invitation to the wedding.

 

[Berrakh]

Oh my science! My favorite based and redpilled comedian BILL BURR said to free Luigi! Can this get any more implicitly right wing?!

 

[The Crescent King]

postage was the normal price from Switzerland to the US via Swiss post.
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2.5-, so about $2.70. i called ahead to the facility to ask if i could enclose some global stamps for a reply and they told me no.

it cost luigi $1.65 for his forever global stamp. he used the flower one.
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the reply was as expected, like i said, i've been writing to prisoners for a long time. he seems fine, if not a little stir crazy. i think a lot of the letters aren't particuarly stimulating, or are written by people who have never written to a prisoner before. they see him as a captive audience, literally. they're asking him about the crime, or trying to start a romantic relationship with him from the offset.

like i said, i probably will write again. the hardest thing is trying to time letters so they don't arrive during times of movement or trial.

For someone who's never written a prison letter before, what should I keep in mind if I want to write to Luigi?

I keep going back and forth as I'm a total stranger whereas I know quite a bit about him, so it feels voyeuristic in a sense.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

For someone who's never written a prison letter before, what should I keep in mind if I want to write to Luigi?

If I were you, I'd just do a brief introduction, and say things that are interesting to him. He studied AI and there are new developments everyday. There are two new transformer architectures (Titan by Google and Transformer squared by Sakana AI). I'm sure he'd like to know about that, and the new tech that's out there. If I were in his shoes I'd be looking for escapism in letters, not more info on what I already know about (the trial, lawyers, NYC, prison conditions, Health Care, etc,)

 

[Helvetia]

For someone who's never written a prison letter before, what should I keep in mind if I want to write to Luigi?

I keep going back and forth as I'm a total stranger whereas I know quite a bit about him, so it feels voyeuristic in a sense.

From the two resources I used the most:

Your first letter or message sets the tone for future correspondence. If you write looking to establish a connection or just out of curiosity you should be honest about it and not give false hopes to the prisoner. Inmates are looking for pen pals and possible friends in society at large to learn new things, forge new bonds, and break the monotony of prison life. Help them feel like they are not forgotten and bring a sense of pride when their name is cited at “mail call.”

Writing an engaging letter involves being thoughtful and considerate. Here are some tips to make your letters meaningful:

Opening Your Letter​

Start your letter with a friendly greeting and an introduction. If this is your first letter, introduce yourself and explain why you are writing. Be clear about your intentions and maintain a respectful tone.

Sharing News and Stories​

Share news from the outside world, such as updates about mutual friends, community events, or interesting stories. This can help the prisoner feel connected to life outside prison.

Offering Encouragement and Support​

Offer words of encouragement and support. Let the prisoner know they are not forgotten and that there are people who care about them.

Asking Questions​

Ask open-ended questions to encourage a response. This can help build a rapport and keep the conversation going.

Closing Your Letter​

End your letter on a positive note. Express your hopes for their well-being and future correspondence. Sign off with a friendly and respectful closing.

Offer to you and anyone else in the thread, if you want to write Luigi / any other prisoner and want someone to check it over for appropriateness or tone, just shoot me a DM. I'm extremely forgetful, so probably wouldn't be able to dox you based on the info in it.

ETA: I probably got a reply because I didn't mention the crime at all. Shit, I didn't even mention the fact he was in prison. If he has remorse, he doesn't want to be reminded of the crime. If he's proud of it, he's got a thousand letters that are praising him for it. Be different.

 

[Kiwisee]

I can’t believe Luigi is being done dirty like this. He wasn’t there at the shooting, he was in Canada visiting friends in Toronto. The man in the video is his doppleganger.

Source: Trust me, I’m a friend. He’s being falsely accused.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Source: Trust me, I’m a friend. He’s being falsely accused.

Yeah, I saw you. He was buying ice-cream for you after you had a rough day at work. I can testify.

I probably got a reply because I didn't mention the crime at all. Shit, I didn't even mention the fact he was in prison. If he has remorse, he doesn't want to be reminded of the crime. If he's proud of it, he's got a thousand letters that are praising him for it. Be different.

This.

I also wonder if he likes chess? A fun idea I had in passing is to have a "Kasparov vs The World" but "Mangione vs The Farms" correspondence chess. It's not too hard. A person here can send him like six games with pre-established openings, with his turn to move, and we vote on a dedicated thread the collective move of the Farms when he responds. Maybe he doesn't like chess or the idea is too far fetched or impractical. But if he's up for it, a special thread can be made.

Just thinking about things to keep him connected to the outside and distracted from prison.

 

[Helvetia]

A person here can send him like six games with pre-established openings, with his turn to move, and we vote on a dedicated thread the collective move of the Farms when he responds. Maybe he doesn't like chess or the idea is too far fetched or impractical. But if he's up for it, a special thread can be made.

I mean, I can ask in my next letter, if that would be a popular thing? I know nothing about Chess, though.

 

[The Crescent King]

I mean, I can ask in my next letter, if that would be a popular thing? I know nothing about Chess, though.

Yes, he did like chess! His account on chess.com was sexytwerker69 lol. He was pretty bad though - sub 400 in blitz and bullet and only 800 in rapid (for reference you start off with 400 elo on chess.com, so being below that means you consistently lose games). I like chess and am an okay player, so if he agrees to that I'd like to contribute.

Thanks for your advice as to the letter writing btw!

 

[Lilsewerbutterfinger]

I mean, I can ask in my next letter, if that would be a popular thing? I know nothing about Chess, though.

I have evidence to believe you are lying about receiving a letter from Luigi.:

1:Luigi didn't have pizza beans on Christmas. That was a menu item offered in Pennsylvania. By the time he would have received your letter he would have been at MDC.
"Lunch will be served around 11 a.m. and will include baked Cornish hen or BBQ tofu. The side dishes on offer will include macaroni and cheese, spinach, cranberry sauce, dinner rolls or a holiday dessert and a beverage."
If Luigi is still a vegetarian, he would have had BBQ tofu. https://people.com/diddy-will-have-...es-again-for-christmas-dinner-in-jail-8763486

2:None of the letters Luigi has sent so far has had him sign "Luigi M". It's always just been Luigi.

3: It's highly unlikely that Luigi would have even received a censored dick with the words on it. It's more likely it would have just been tossed out or returned to sender. But that's neither here nor there.

4: We already know Diddy is being housed alone for security reasons https://lawenforcementtoday.com/a-day-in-the-life-of-diddy-in-prison

5: (here is the biggest one): YOU HAVE SHOWN NO RECIEPTS. Even the redditors who have a strict ban on showing the contents of Luigi's letters will still allow you to show his signature and his writing on the envelope. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for you to have not shown the photos, ESPECIALLY when you literally typed down the contents of the letters.

Either confess the truth or humble me with receipts.

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

I mean, I can ask in my next letter, if that would be a popular thing? I know nothing about Chess, though.

Yes, he did like chess! His account on chess.com was sexytwerker69 lol. He was pretty bad though - sub 400 in blitz and bullet and only 800 in rapid (for reference you start off with 400 elo on chess.com, so being below that means you consistently lose games). I like chess and am an okay player, so if he agrees to that I'd like to contribute.

Thanks for your advice as to the letter writing btw!

Spoiler: About chess if you like the Idea.

Oh, I see. Well, he's not that good, but also not bad. 800 in Rapid (10 min games) on chess.com means you've got the game right, but you may blunder and not have the tactics yet. A correspondence game is where you have to think about moves and their meaning. It takes way longer. The fun thing for us would be to discuss in this forum. It's usually 1 day per move each (So I have one day to think about my move, and you have 1 day to think about yours, etc).

Because it wouldn't be fun to wait 20 days for each move, neither for Luigi or us my simple solution would be to add more games, like 6 or 8. So it would be in theory 15 days for Luigi to think about his 6 moves of each game and we kiwis respond in somewhat equal amount of time. 3 games white, 3 games black (or 4 and 4 each player). And to make it spicy, we already start with games already "opened" with no advantage to either side, so we don't waste letters in just moving the first pawns.

If it's doable, and Luigi is up for it, a thread can be opened in "games" and it could be super fun. (There's also going to be a need for a moderator on our end to make sure no kiwi is cheating with computers.) Luigi probably never played correspondence, but this would be a fun thing for him to sink his intelligence in, and he'd only have to answer with the moves of each game, so it's not resource intensive.

 

[The Crescent King]

@ToEnsureVerification

It sounds really fun! I will write a letter to him with the idea ASAP. However I will disagree minorly in the sense that we should have the pawn moves as they're really important for openings, but we can make a rule that you can't play one particular pawn move in the opening mkre than once, i.e. in one game you play e4, another d4, etc. It doesn't have to be that specific, just that if you move the e pawn first in one game you have to move a different pawn in another. If he's doing 4 white games he'll pick his openings as well so it'll all be fair. I'm a bit of a spaz and like to study opening theory, but if more people prefer your opened idea we should go with that!

 

[Helvetia]

Spoiler: long reply w/ pics

We already know Diddy is being housed alone for security reasons https://lawenforcementtoday.com/a-day-in-the-life-of-diddy-in-prison

https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/09/24/sean-diddy-combs-bankman-fried-brooklyn-jail/

it's big dorm-style rooms, I think they're in the same "cell". the phrasing he used was along the lines of "a lot of famous people are being held here, p diddy and the FTX guy are in together."

There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for you to have not shown the photos,

my address is right next to the return on the envelope. he misunderstood my instructions for sending mail to Switzerland and squished everything into the top left corner.

double ETA: This is not from my letter. This is from Threads / Reddit (reply below with original) to show how tightly Luigi writes.


he also refers to me by name constantly during the letter, and signs off with "thanks [name], luigi". i think what i saw as an M was from underneath the paper

as I saw with the Chris jail letters, there's ways for people to read through paper and autistic things like that. there's also more he said that i didn't share, and would hate to reveal them inadvertently. spending all my time in username hall of shame has made me super paranoid, sorry.

in the next letter, along with the chess, I'd be happy to ask him if he would be okay with a section being posted here from that letter or this one if that would put your mind at ease (:

It's highly unlikely that Luigi would have even received a censored dick with the words on it

i don't believe he receives any form of picture, just a description. mail is scanned in by a third party in New York state, so I assume they have to scan it all in, then censor at the third party or at the prison. it mightve been him being told verbally, I just don't know.

Luigi didn't have pizza beans on Christmas. That was a menu item offered in Pennsylvania.

my fault. he wrote something along the lines of the food being better than expected, but pizza beans were hardly festive. I assumed that to mean that he'd had them for Christmas. a lot of American idioms are lost on me.

I'm a bit of a spaz and like to study opening theory, but if more people prefer your opened idea we should go with that!

eta: beyond the chess thing though, i probably won't upload any more letters, even transcribing. I'm quite a private person, KF is the only social media I enjoy using and I really don't like being under the spotlight by other websites. I've already revealed more information than I'm comfortable with.

 

[Lilsewerbutterfinger]

For some reason I cannot directly respond to Helvetica. But I can confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that she copy and pasted the signature from reddit. I was already suspicious when she said Luigi was calling the other inmates ugly. Luigi was an engineering major who had a lot of nerdy friends. Based on reports from the people he knows, Luigi seemed more the type to try to uplift others rather than bring them down or insult someone's appearance, no matter what walk of life they are from.

I was hoping her letter was real because it would be nice to know Luigi isn't suicidal. I like to hope he isn't suicidal now that he's receiving so much love from around the world.

I'm afraid Helvetica has failed to humble me.

 

[Helvetia]

But I can confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that she copy and pasted the signature from reddit

I did, fren. I wasn't trying to pass it off as my own, just showing how tightly Luigi puts his letters together. I found the screenshot from Threads of just his signature, I didn't realise it was from a wider photo. Sorry. Edited my original post to add context.

 

[Helvetia]

To get things back on track, I am double posting, but for a good reason.
Newsweek is reporting donors are asking for their money back from GiveSendGo

Luigi Mangione Donors Want Their Money Back

Multiple donors who contributed a total of $7,000 to a GiveSendGo fundraiser for Luigi Mangione's legal fees have asked for their money back as the suspect in the deadly shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson continues his legal fight.

A GiveSendGo spokesperson told Newsweek on Wednesday night that the fundraising amount decreased after the company caught illicit donations from illegitimate donors in a second review of the contributions.

"Fraudulent donations often originate from activities like 'card testing,' where stolen card information is used to make small transactions to verify its validity before being used elsewhere for larger unauthorized purchases. While these donations may initially appear legitimate, passing our first review, they are often flagged during subsequent reviews," the spokesperson said.
How Many Donations Has Luigi Mangione Received?
Over 8,000 people have donated more than $223,800 toward the GiveSendGo fundraiser created for Mangione with a goal of $500,000. Mangione, 26, is charged with murder and a slew of other federal and state counts in the December 4 shooting death of Thompson.

Mangione has amassed a large fan base, as his supporters have railed against the American health care system.

What To Know
The December 4 Legal Committee, a team of 15 volunteers from around the country who organized the fundraiser, provided an update Wednesday about a $7,000 decrease in the fundraiser balance.

Organizers said GiveSendGo provided them with the following statement which differs from what Newsweek received.

"The reason for the decrease in the funds raised is due to donors either disputing their donation to the campaign or requesting refunds. We have no control over donations when they are disputed. As for the refunded donations, when a donor requests a refund we will manually review their donation, alongside the reason for the refund request."

"If their request is deemed to be within reason, we will refund the donation to avoid a dispute. This is because a dispute would result in the donation amount being withdrawn from the campaign's balance, in addition to a $15 dispute fee."

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-ceo-shooting-suspect-donations-trial-2015768

https://archive.md/Rj8bA

Link to the GiveSendGo

https://www.givesendgo.com/legalfund-ceo-shooting-suspect

https://archive.md/xudAE

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

I'm afraid Helvetica has failed to humble me.

Chill out, we have trust for other users. If it's all an elaborate LARP of hers, then that's on Helvetica. I do believe her and if she doesn't want to share details of her life or things Luigi wrote privately, then that's fine.

People can misunderstand the intent/meaning of others, and letters can leave room for interpretation. If we are being duped, then too bad. But I err on the side of trusting fellow users. And I will assume good faith on their part.

By the way, learn to attach things properly in the posts. Ace Attorney is cool, but remember, nobody in this forum owes you anything.

"Fraudulent donations often originate from activities like 'card testing,' where stolen card information is used to make small transactions to verify its validity before being used elsewhere for larger unauthorized purchases. While these donations may initially appear legitimate, passing our first review, they are often flagged during subsequent reviews,"

This reminds me of the DSP chargeback scam they did on him, but on a larger scale. Alogs or just criminals everywhere man.