Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[RodgerDodger]

You are assuming Russ will even own his car after this. This nigga gonna be broke at this rate. He won't be able to sue a hooker, let alone Josh anymore if the sanctions keep up. I for one am a positive polly at the end of case Greer stream

He doesn't own it now. It's an Uber eats rental that he's living in.

Such faggot shit from this judge. He’s trying to split the baby or some retarded shit to not seem partial to the defense or something. It’s embarrassing the lengths he’s going to keep this shit show alive.

No. The Judge does not want this to go to trial. Nor does he wish to dismiss it at which point it just gets appealed immediately. He wants it to go away. The litigants to settle. He just handed the defendant a huge clue bat with which to make Greer go away in an unappealable manner. This is not unlike the AGT case.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I just have to wonder....exactly what facts does the judge think Russell and Josh are in dispute about?

Both sides agree that the site did have a link to another site that held a copy of Mushmouth's "book" but...aside from the legal question about contributory infringement what exactly is Russell disputing here that his father and brother can testify about?

I am so confused at what this judge is thinking?

I have zero doubt that Russell will drag in two witnesses that will testify how cruel and how mean the Farms and I guess by extension Josh have been to Russ'tard but again...WTF does that have to do with the copyright case? How does people saying mean things online about a half-chimp gimp have any bearing on the copyright issue?

Russell has nothing, absolutely nothing more to add to what we already know about this retarded case, we don't need any witnesses to tell sad stores about Russ'tard, we know he's a retard gimp man and unless his family happens to be experts in Copyright Law they have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the case at hand. It should be plain and clear by now that Greer has no case, nothing what so ever besides the fact a link was posted to Josh's site...that's it. I have no doubt Russell is still trying to get his plights out before the court and rather then spanking him for wasting everyone's time on useless totally irrelevant shit the judge is just like..nah man you go dawg.

I keep saying this judge is playing a game but what's the end goal here? What does the judge want out of this case?

Be fucked if I can figure it out.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

stubbornly refusing to believe we are his only fans.

i originally read that as onlyfans and got very worried for a second.

The worst bit is the wait...we know Null has the deets but we can't see it until Russ'tard puts it into his pleadings.

i thought the worst bit was the hypocrisy?

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move over rekieta, there is anew member of the DENIED club.

 

[Google.com]

wait Greer is still saying he has two witnesses to call?

hmmm I wonder who he's thinking of dragging into this? We know his family don't want shit to do with it so I am super curious to whom else can provide relevant testimony for his copyright case?

Is he going to try calling Santa Claus to tell the court that Josh is a naughty boy?
Is he going to call on President Biden to rule that Kiwi Farms is a terrorist organization?
Is he going to call on the Devil himself to testify that Hardin is one of his daemons on Earth?
Is he going to try to subpoena random Farmers to repeat the slander and harassment he's faced from them on the Farms?

I mean...who else can provide any information on this case? The facts are pretty self evident here and Josh is not disputing them so what in God's name can any witness provide other then the fact Russ'tard plights are really what he's suing for?

 

[God's strongest milkman]

The only reason monetary sanctions happened was because the court was forced to by the letter of the law. The Kiwi Farms gambit does stipulate that the benefits to your case remain within the law.

Edit:
I am now convinced that Useless Mistake is Matthew Hardin since they're never online at the same time.

Lol don't say that you'll have Greer convinced to and writing to the court about Azula being Hardin's ideal avatar because she's so sadistic and evil.

 

[StinkySnack]

Edit:
I am now convinced that Useless Mistake is Matthew Hardin since they're never online at the same time.

Useful was posting play-by-play updates during the scheduling conference in this thread while Hardin was shown live on video stream. He’s not Hardin.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Both sides hate the judge, so in a way, doesn't that make him the fairest Judge of all?

A judge isn't supposed to be a perfect compromise middle of the road party, he's supposed to be on the side of the law and the process of the courts. That process is being abused, and he should toss the case in defense of the law itself, not of Josh.

discovery will finish and there will be no relevant evidence brought forth. then the trial gets thrown out. pretty sure judge doesn't have enough shit to determine if the suit even has merit.

I get what the judge is saying, that exclusion and prejudice only happens if a surprise witness needs to be explicitly excluded. Hardin has not yet filed a motion saying "no witness and no evidence therefore no case". That eventual motion is very likely to succeed once it does happen.

But Greer's continued insistence that his non-evidence exists, and his bare description of it, should be enough to convince the judge that we're already at the zero case mark. He's got enough to toss it on his own.

Spoiler: months of wasted judicial resources

The needless jurisprudence didn't start when Greer missed a deadline by 2 hours, it started when he lied about witnesses to get the case back to Utah. It continued with every filed complaint about harassment after his harassment claim got tossed, because Hardin is forced to answer and file demands for removing inflammatory language. The judge is putting blinders on to pretend only the really egregious recent stuff has wasted time.

"The 10th Appeals said I stated a claim!" Yeah, and nothing Greer has put on the docket since then supports that stated claim. Not a single thing in the court record, since it came back from Appeals, has added any clarity or support about contributory copyright infringement. The judge knows the distinction between stating a claim and having a case, and he knows there is no case here.

But he won't interrupt his deathmarch. I think he accepts the eventual need to toss on summary judgement, since Greer couldn't even tard stumble his way to the starting gate. But knowing that eventuality, the judge still should have tossed it by now.

 

[daniel day]

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Life doesnt always work out the way you think it does, Kiwifags *smug dorito crunch*

 

[Jotch]

Useful was posting play-by-play updates during the scheduling conference in this thread while Hardin was shown live on video stream. He’s not Hardin.

That was clearly a stunt double

 

[Bill Evans 45]

Esteemed singer/songwriter Russel Greer cannot whistle yet his entire life has been nothing but stumbling and spraying spit. To deny him the role of Drooly is discrimination as he meets some of the criteria so c'mon just give him a break he needs this role to become famous.

Snow White and The Accomodations would be a good band name.

I keep saying this judge is playing a game but what's the end goal here? What does the judge want out of this case?

I think he wants to flip the bird at the 10th Circuit among other things I will not say here.

Strap in lads, we're going to trial!

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I think he wants to flip the bird at the 10th Circuit among other things I will not say here.

Strap in lads, we're going to trial!

Well that's very kind of the judge to fuck with his bosses using Jersh's money.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

What a roller coaster of emotions that was.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

But he won't interrupt his deathmarch. I think he accepts the eventual need to toss on summary judgement, since Greer couldn't even tard stumble his way to the starting gate. But knowing that eventuality, the judge still should have tossed it by now.

Gotta love how the Judge is desperately trying to carry the corpse of Russell's case to trial, under heavy fire from Hardin, but every step of the way, Russell keeps attacking it with a grenade launcher!

 

[Suah Noteb]

Edit:
I am now convinced that Useless Mistake is Matthew Hardin since they're never online at the same time.

I have a question.
First let's assume that Hardin, as a lawyer, has a well paying job where he can live comfortably and regularly socializes with other well off people, and his job requires him to maintain an appearance of decorum and otherwise consumes a good portion of his spare time.
Now why would he be a heavily active moderator on a website that, although does not cover basket weaving, is considered to have a very poor reputation among people outside the site - enough to hinder his line of work if he was discovered to be involved?

 

[Kosher Dill]

Upon further reflection, it's bizarre for the judge to be saying "I fixed this with monetary sanctions" when the sanctioned party is in forma pauperis. How can you say "Money will fix this" when you already signed off on a legal finding that the sanctioned party has no money?

Now why would he be a heavily active moderator on a website that, although does not cover basket weaving, is considered to have a very poor reputation among people outside the site

He's from Greene County, holding down autists and recording their screams is the national sport out there.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

I'm not surprised that the judge declined to end the case but I'm a little worried about the indications he seems to be giving that he's not closing the door on Russ springing new bullshit. Since Russ currently has zero evidence there's a lot of room for him to add stuff through the long discovery process.

As I have no doubt Russ will fight whatever reasonable costs that Hardin declares, I guess the question will be how gentle the magistrate wants to be. If costs start snowballing, Russ won't be able to keep up no matter how many door dashes he completes.

 

[ShinyStar]

OR the fact that a trial cannot be held without any witnesses nor evidence, neither of which Greer claims to have

So there have been quotes from Russ in various emails along the lines of, 'I've given you everything I have.' At this point, the totality of what Greer has (or more accurately hasn't) given to Hardin isn't in the record yet, is it? We know there are no witnesses because there was the explicit fight over it that was put on the record. It seems like at this point, given those vague statements, the judge would have to be operating under the assumption that something has been provided evidence-wise and that the motions made to fix recalcitrance regarding discovery aren't the proper place for him to be judging the sufficiency of evidence he hasn't even seen yet. I think it's possible to look at the judge's ruling and see him saying, "What you are asking for is summary judgment, and you have to file a motion for summary judgment to get that."

Upon further reflection, it's bizarre for the judge to be saying "I fixed this with monetary sanctions" when the sanctioned party is in forma pauperis. How can you say "Money will fix this" when you already signed off on a legal finding that the sanctioned party has no money?


He's from Greene County, holding down autists and recording their screams is the national sport out there.

Well, there's a deadline for Greer to pay those sanctions coming right up. It seems like Greer's inevitable failure to pay might open the door for Hardin to point out that the judge's order for sanctions has not cured the harm done to the defendant. It seems like the proper point to ask for the case to be thrown out would be when Greer disobeys the court's order to pay Hardin's bills. His failure to follow the court's order seems unlikely to be cured by reissueing the same order, so the judge might consider dismissing the case to be the proper sanctions at that point in time.

 

[a hapless toad]

Rusty struck Sean's stream for boolying; did anyone archive it?

 

[DavidS877]

Rusty struck Sean's stream for boolying; did anyone archive it?

Still on Rumble.

 

[Troonos]

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This faggot judge is outright permitting abuse of the legal system.