Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[NSJAP]

Gaza ceasefire

 

[Burned Legate]

Gaza ceasefire

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Jews stay winning.

I don't like Jews, but this mentality just sucks. Loser ideology. Jews aren't gonna be wiped out, sorry bro, but it looks like a war might be ending, that's good. Even if only for economic reasons as opposed to moral objection.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

You don't want the modern American right is pathetic back in the 1980s and 70s groups like the order will literally blowing buildings up and robbing banks to fund their operations not E begging

 

[FightenGnome]

Gaza ceasefire

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"Hamas was growing, not being destroyed."

I don't doubt that Hamas wasn't being completely obliterated but this sounds like more "Two weeks until the Zionist entity is destroyed" rhetoric from TRS.

Not sure if it was Striker or Enoch who said this around the time the pagers blew up, but that the Arabs are shit at keeping their intelligence closed off from Jewish or American infiltration. Hamas and Hezbollah have lost a lot of their leadership, and this idea that they were on the rise is some grade A copium.

Muslims need to figure out a way, if possible, to combat 100k and an identity change for selling out their comrades.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

You don't want the modern American right is pathetic back in the 1980s and 70s groups like the order will literally blowing buildings up and robbing banks to fund their operations not E begging

You don't want the modern American right, it is pathetic. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, groups like the Order were literally blowing up buildings and robbing banks to fund their operations, not e-begging.

Use some punctuation please.

 

[Turquoise]

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Are those stats true?

 

[The Hardest R]

"Hamas was growing, not being destroyed."

I don't doubt that Hamas wasn't being completely obliterated but this sounds like more "Two weeks until the Zionist entity is destroyed" rhetoric from TRS.

Not sure if it was Striker or Enoch who said this around the time the pagers blew up, but that the Arabs are shit at keeping their intelligence closed off from Jewish or American infiltration. Hamas and Hezbollah have lost a lot of their leadership, and this idea that they were on the rise is some grade A copium.

Muslims need to figure out a way, if possible, to combat 100k and an identity change for selling out their comrades.

Hamas was winning the propaganda war but was losing the actual war. Unsurprisingly tweeting #FreeGaza doesn’t do shit to stop Israel.

Zion Don has an unabashed Israel First foreign policy and even though Biden let Israel do whatever they wanted, they still insisted on some token aid to Gaza here and there. Blumpf was going to let Bibi do whatever the fuck he wanted without the token whining about hoping both sides can have peace. Makes sense to cut a deal with the marginally more sympathetic Biden than Trump who will just let Jews run wild.

There was never a point where Israel was going to lose. Gaza is a tiny, overcrowded shithole dependent almost entirely on UN aid. Jews were just taken aback by how much support there was not only for Palestinians but abolishing Israel. They spent decades kvetching about the right but ignored antisemitism amongst the left. They want to return to those days and they’ll stab Trump in the back when they feel safe doing so.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

You don't want the modern American right is pathetic back in the 1980s and 70s groups like the order will literally blowing buildings up and robbing banks to fund their operations not E begging

Pierce was just as much of a lolcow as Enoch and Crew now. Pierce had weirdos like the Baloghs.

 

[Neodanthril]

Pierce was also a larpagan christ hater that founded a scam religion to make his grift tax free. Truly American white nationalism is just fraudsters, hucksters, and conmen all the way down

 

[FightenGnome]

You don't want the modern American right is pathetic back in the 1980s and 70s groups like the order will literally blowing buildings up and robbing banks to fund their operations not E begging

Pierce was just as much of a lolcow as Enoch and Crew now. Pierce had weirdos like the Baloghs.

Pierce was also a larpagan christ hater that tried to make a scam religion to make his grift tax free. Truly American white nationalism is just grifters all the way down

This media is all lost to the sands of time now, but there used to be plenty of media online of the old movement leaders talking about one another and airing one another's grievances. I was too naieve to think it would all get yanked offline after C-ville, but I do remember some of it:

Pierce was a good speaker but a amoral individual.

In his books, he often had a preference for age gap relationships between older men and younger women, something he mirrored in his personal life often marrying women decades younger than him. He wrote Turner Diaries, not only as pro-White fiction, but also as a sort of call for action and a blueprint for how an organization should be put together and carry out operations though not at the level Covington's books would (Pierce was a political man with no military experience).

He also included a unnecessary dark story in Hunter of a Jewish FBI agent forcing a Klansman's daughter to give him a blowjob at gunpoint as a warning for the protagonist not to fuck with the FBI. No doubt due to Pierce's disdain for the KKK as an organization.

More interesting though, Pierce was a coward. According to Tom Metzger, when the whole Order crimes were being committed, Pierce took the money and fled. Pierce was under the impression they were coming to get him, and was trying to distance himself as much as possible from what was going on (despite taking the money). When they went to court, Metzger claims he showed up but that Pierce offered no support whatsoever to them not even moral support.

Pierce also didn't bother to sort out his affairs properly despite his old age and his death resulted in the NA being torn apart and its coffers looted by its successors. Another example of a Boomer WN organization with money getting raped by greed. NA in particular is a tragedy because we're talking many pieces of land as well as money. Who knows what good that money could be done for today.

Others described Pierce as weird and aloof, and that certainly comes across in filmed footage of him.

Pierce died at the perfect time in history to be remembered well, because out of all the major figures, he probably was the weirdest and likely had some strange autistic hobbies that died back in the early 00's with him preventing him from gaining lolcow status.

He basically was the 1.0's era of a 4channer if they became a movement leader. None of his peers liked him, though they did recognize him. That's not to say any of the other guys were flawless. Duke, for example, was a gambler and ladies man back in the day, apparently the rule was not to leave your wife in a room alone with him or she'd end up cheating on you.

We can justly complain about TRS or Spencer or W/E, but let's not pretend that the good old days were better. It was pathetic all the way back from the deathbed of George Lincoln Rockwell onward

 

[I'm a Silly]

Are those stats true?

If you look at the replies, there was some discussion.

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Glad to see no one's shitting on Bob [yet].

 

[Turquoise]

@FightenGnome

We've just got to be grateful for good stuff they did. Pierce may have been a wierdo - he pretty much admitted to once having been the real Hunter - but he was also half a century ahead of most people in his thinking. In fact, seeing what Pierce could see in the 60s probably drove him nuts.

Metzger had even worse optics than Pierce and he made an absolute boob of himself on Louis Theroux's documentary. However, that incident where his son got strangled by a black man on TV and then his crew charged in and cleared the whole stage in 3 seconds was cool. I'll give Metzger that. His son also did a good job against Chris Hitchens in a debate. All Hitch could do was make jokes for his libtard studio audience.

As things died down a bit, Jared Taylor cleaned the movement up and made the truth palatable to conservatives. Jared gets loads of shit for cucking on the JQ but he would never have been allowed so much mainstream access if he hadn't. In a way, he did what Pierce always wanted to do but was just more strategically astute. Much more.

Peen and the gang are retards. What would you call their schtick? Drunken frat boy racism (by middle aged men)? I suppose you have to appeal to all demographics. They do somehow have an audience.

 

[FightenGnome]

but he was also half a century ahead of most people in his thinking. In fact, seeing what Pierce could see in the 60s probably drove him nuts.

All of the problems we see can be seen half a century before they're happening. That's not just race either. If you've been socially, historically and politically aware, you could see the trajectory of things. Hell in the 00's I foresaw a near future where trannys were going to be a thing and you'd get in trouble for misgendering them.

I imagine pretty much everyone here or in the broader political space on the right could say the same thing. The things we predict now will come to the future if nothing is changed.

Pierce isn't necessarily a great mind, he just followed the trends.

Metzger had even worse optics than Pierce and he made an absolute boob of himself on Louis Theroux's documentary

Metzger went all "Screw your optics" and took things to the working class neighborhood gang level. He actually tried to do the politics thing in the pas. It sounds funny to think that Metzger went suit and tie, but it's true. According to him the area Dems actually liked his socialist rhetoric and how passionate he was about it, that the party was willing to support him if he backed down on his racist and anti-Semitic rhetoric.

Metzger was a lot smarter than he came across, he just stopped caring at a certain point and felt that the youth and movement needed tradesman foot soldiers instead of preening intellectuals and wannabe entrepreneurs.
Terrible Tommy's problem is that he was an "Ends justify the means" kind of guy, and had no issue bilking his followers out of money to send to the SPLC to pay for the (unjust) lawsuit he lost. It had to be done so he could continue to operate.

As things died down a bit, Jared Taylor cleaned the movement up and made the truth palatable to conservatives.

No lie I have never heard anything bad about Taylor other than him being considered "soft" and "weak on the JQ". Probably one of the few people pre-Alt-right that has no skeletons in his closet. Maybe someone else knows more. In a time before anime became widely popular, it was impressive that he spoke fluent Japanese, and there is an old clip from I think the early 00's of an interview he had with some Japanese people coming to question him about his "White Supremacy" and were surprised that not only was he fluent in Japanese, but how he used Japan effectively as an example of why American Whites need their own homeland.

I have a lot of respect for him, it annoys me that he would even consider sitting in the same room as that retard Nick Fuentes.

Peen and the gang are retards. What would you call their schtick? Drunken frat boy racism (by middle aged men)? I suppose you have to appeal to all demographics. They do somehow have an audience.

Their schtick was early 2010's 4chan, now it's hating Jews and right-wingers.

 

[Turquoise]

@FightenGnome

Skeletons in Taylor's closet? A couple of Japanese girlfriends and a phone call from Irwin Suall. But yeah, he sets the bar for conduct.

 

[The Hardest R]

Jared Taylor is a fine individual. One more reason I respect him is that he hasn’t cucked either in order to collect more griftbux. I can respect ideological consistency, even if I don’t agree with some of his views. I feel the same way with many of the Vdare niggas like Peter Brimelow, John Derbyshire, et al. My only beef with them is that they should’ve known being incorporated in New York was going to eventually fuck them over. But I’ll take any of them over a rat and a coward like Gavin McInnes or a loser like Jesse Dunstan any day.

 

[GameratePTSD]

all the way back from the deathbed of George Lincoln Rockwell onward

I miss him so much bros

 

[I glow in the dark]

I don't doubt that Hamas wasn't being completely obliterated but this sounds like more "Two weeks until the Zionist entity is destroyed" rhetoric from TRS.

They weren't obliterated but they essentially aren't capable of doing anything anymore, due to Hezbollah getting crippled and Bashar now gone means weapons procurement is almost impossible, and everyone involved with political administration in Gaza is dead except for Khaled Mashal, and Israel may have only chosen to not kill him because he's the more pragmatic figure in Hamas.

 

[Neodanthril]

Might as well change the name of the show to the Twitter report since they lost the only other thing they talk about anymore

 

[Rick Nekieta]

Might as well change the name of the show to the Twitter report since they lost the only other thing they talk about anymore

I would suggest the title "This week in soy....."

 

[Punished Jenna]

Might as well change the name of the show to the Twitter report since they lost the only other thing they talk about anymore

They also spend lots of time on flat earth content, and by spend time on it I mean watching other people on youtube debunk flat earthers while they say flat earthers are stupid between pauses.