What would you do if your kid was a troon?

[Karen of Human Resources]

Not a meme, I'm looking for serious answers because it is something I have been thinking about recently.

I have a friend, let's call her Sally, who has a child at university who within the past few months has come out as a MtF. Sally is "So proud" and is engaging in every step of her offsprings first steps at becoming a woman. Going dress shopping, getting "her" nails done. They haven't decided on a name yet, but they even go through baby name books together trying to find something that fits. I've gently tried to nudge Sally to share how she feels, and she won't give even a millimetre outside of how brave/empowering/wonderful her kid is.

Sally was until recently very detached from her new daughters life. Child has spent an extensive amount of time in a boarding school, and when I've seen them isn't "weird". They have freinds, they have normal hobbies, it has come a bit out of the blue to the parents.

How would you react to your son declaring themself to be a woman? Have any of the Kiwis encountered this?

While I don't think I am at risk of this thankfully, I actually have no idea how I'd manage it. My urge to call out womanface and fantasy beliefs may be tempered by the reptilian side of the brain knowing that someone who has come out has been so deeply brainwashed anything short of validation will be perceived as an extreme hateful religiously motiviated right wing attack, and it might need to be undermined softly.

How would you handle the scenario Kiwis? It has been interesting to hear about, this is my first time with a ringside seat with tranny shit in person. They haven't begun to cross dress day to day, but I think that is coming up.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

Sounds like shitposting, but is logically sound

Try the following

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Depends on how much Kool-Aid the kid has already drunk. If it's a passing interest, I'd have a solid sit-down about how most pro-trans adults are people with serious boundary issues - as evidenced by their befriending of and seeking validation from children. Or they're predators trying to groom kids. Any further along than that and I'd probably cut bait.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I would ask them why they feel like a woman. Point out to them that they've never experienced having a period, or breasts, or any of the countless other things that make humans a sexually dimorphic species. They've also never experienced the social aspects of being a woman, and all that entails. I'd point out to them how they're claiming knowledge of an experience they can't have.

If I were dealing with a girl claiming they're a man (which statistics show is a way more common problem now), I'd make the same point. I'd point out to them that I could never know what it's like to be them, as I've never had a woman's body. So how could they so confidently state they feel more at home in a body like mine, one they've never inhabited?

This is the fundamental, underlying philosophical flaw of transgenderism as a concept. You can't actually know what it's like to be the opposite sex, you can only make assumptions that may or may not be accurate, but in any case have no way of verifying.

I've never seen a single apologist for transgender ideology ever convincingly address this point. They just imagine what being a man or a woman is like based on their own preconceptions, and then try to emulate that. If you press this point on them, you inevitably end up giving them enough rope to hang themselves with because they can't answer the question.

If it's because they want to present themselves as a man/woman, I'd then point out to them that your gender expression has nothing to do with your gender identity. You can be a man and dress and act feminine, you can be a woman and dress and act masculine. Transgender ideology relies on stereotypes of how men and women are "supposed" to act, and says that men and women who don't fit the mold society expects of them should "change teams". It doesn't weaken gender roles, it strengthens them. It denies the possibility of simply being gender non-conforming while still being comfortable with what you are born as. These are the kind of things you should get them thinking about.

This is why I firmly believe the best way to innoculate a child against transgenderism is to teach them critical thinking. Not what to think, but how to think. Children and teenagers are drawn towards transgenderism at the moment because it's trendy: It spreads in their peer groups as a way to receive positive social affirmation, and conversely they're socially ostracized if they question it.

I'm not saying you should try to punish or isolate them, or dismiss their feelings entirely. Approach them from an angle of being respectful but trying to understand their thought process. Don't ridicule them, but get them to be open to reevaluating the ideas they've absorbed. Give them the tools necessary to question and dismantle information they have been expected to absorb uncritically.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Kill my wife's brother

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

My own son? I'd logically debate him, then if that failed just isolate him from our insane culture by moving out to the woods or something. Last resort, beat him to a pulp.

If it's a friend or family's situation, I'd gift the parent/s with anti-tranny books to educate them. Once they inevitably get sanctimonious I'd directly call out their abuse and cut contact.

 

[Jex]

The trick is letting them know what you would do ideally before they do it. Your friend is too late for the tried and true right answer.

edit: The boarding school thing is a red flag. You mentioned Parents but the Dad should have done something by now.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The "losing people to trans support thread" in stinkditch actually has some responses to this.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Disown them

 

[Cat tit bingo]

I'd call him a faggot and send him thousands of ack memes. I will also cover every inch if his room with pictures of troonjak and replace his entire wardrobe with troonjak attire.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Boarding school = something happened. EPI/pedo shit/bullying etc

Now he’s a gross coomer. But sounds like that’s what the mom wants…

 

[⚞⛇⚟]

I've never seen a single apologist for transgender ideology ever convincingly address this point. They just imagine what being a man or a woman is like based on their own preconceptions, and then try to emulate that. If you press this point on them, you inevitably end up giving them enough rope to hang themselves with because they can't answer the question.

While this could work well, if your kid is either AGP or retarded they will use this to justify being a buch transfem, a transmasc femboy, or even a genderfuck emby.

My own son? I'd logically debate him, then if that failed just isolate him from our insane culture by moving out to the woods or something. Last resort, beat him to a pulp.

A lot of troons loved to be oppressed, and make their whole identity about oppression, so this will 90% make things worse.
My evil terf father verbally abused me, went crazy and tried to distance me from my life saving DIY HRT, and then beat me. Reddit, please give me advice.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

A lot of troons loved to be oppressed, and make their whole identity about oppression, so this will 90% make things worse.
My evil terf father verbally abused me, went crazy and tried to distance me from my life saving DIY HRT, and then beat me. Reddit, please give me advice.

They love larping and telling tall tales, and exaggerating. They don't love a tight grip around their neck while hearing:

 

[Fapcop]

Load the old shotgun, and chocking up with tears announce that I buried some hentai and HRT in the backyard in a little box.

While he’s busy trying to dig it up, I’d raise the shotgun, say I love you son, and put the poor thing out of its misery. At least he died happy. And not as a mutilated, constantly depressed shell of a man.

 

[Dawdler]

I'd murder whoever raped him/her

 

[hothead]

A lot of troons loved to be oppressed, and make their whole identity about oppression, so this will 90% make things worse.

These same people will accuse Christians of having a persecution fetish when trans people have an actual fetish for both victimhood and pretending to be women.

 

[Chao Garden]

force him/her to look at graphic SRS photos

 

[Mad Hunter]

First, I'd get the kid to talk to me about his or her interests, preferences, and choices in a civil manner. I'd ask if he or she is OK so far. We'd try to reach a consensus. If something is very wrong, we can go get therapy. I'd give him or her the chance to think and explore until 20-something where the brain is developed and many concepts have been explored.


If the kid is an adult, I'd try the same tactics, but since he or she's an adult, I'd just let them be and simply tolerate the presence. It's my kid, after all, but now grown up, so choices have been made, you're on your own, kid.

If the kid doesn't do anything harmful or stupid like join the pride parade, participate in protests, get political every 10 seconds, give out personal info wherever, inject drugs in itself, commit crimes, or get into whatever neo-relationships are there, we should be civil. If anything like that happens, out. It's out.

 

[Otterly]

Child has spent an extensive amount of time in a boarding school,

Oh dear.
You deal with it before it happens, not after. Parents who send a child to boarding school (outside of very specific needs) have already failed to parent their child and have let others do it.
You get in before all that. Talk to your kids about it. Make it seem like a ridiculous, revolting, mockable thing to do.
This is something where vaccination works better than treatment. As for your friend, you can’t save her or her kid. If you’re brave enough, you can tell her you dont agree with it and that if she wants to talk you’re there.
And do not let the mtf boy anywhere near your own family or children.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Probably just honor kill them?