Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

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[TexWiller]

Russia "aggressively" pointed its radar at a French plane patrolling the Baltic. Remind me again which of these two countries actually has a Baltic coast.

As far as i can see, there is no "international airspace" in the baltic area. Actually, there is a portion of airspace which is part of russian airspace, in the Kaliningrad Area
i often read the same "international airspace" (or international waters, which eventually applies to boats and not airplanes) BS about stuff flying on the black sea. There is no such thing there and according to international aviation rules any aircraft approaching a FIR without flight plan and/or transponder off and/or without contacting the relevant air traffic authorities can and will be considered a threat and subjected to interception or worse. And btw, the french are very particular about airpspaces. a couple buddies of mine who trespassed in french airspace got to fly close formation with military jets, and another frend of mine spent 3 months in forced holiday in north of france for having entered the wrong airspace.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

But you didn't draft-dodge in 1939, did you?

Most people didnt even get a chance to mobilize properly. I know that my great grandfather managed to escape to the west.

 

[jje100010001]

I read a really creepy story about Ikrainian mobile crematoriums today. Crematoriums in Kharkiv and Dnepropetrovsk are running 24-7 to burn Ukrainian casualties, but apparently the Ukrainian military has also gotten a hold of mobile crematoriums and use them to burn their losses.

The advantage is twofold. Less official losses, the dead soldier just “disappears” which means no compensation has to be paid. (Or can be stolen.)

The other advantage is that no crematorium workers can then give out any actual number of losses. And of course avoiding the public humiliation of seeing military trucks pull up to crematoriums multiple times a day.

On the other hand, is it harder to do that than to leave the corpses in the field for the dogs and pigs to naturally recycle and fertilize the fields? If the Russians then take over that field, then no one from the Ukrainian side is going out to reclaim those bodies, which will eventually become indistinguishable bones.

It seems like doing these sorts of things just increase risk of exposure (i.e. what's stopping crematorium workers from taking videos/photos?). On the other hand, there is the organ trade, and somehow Ukie soldiers haven't turned on their blocking detachments either despite the horrific losses- so who knows?

As such, I can only theorize that these might likely be wounded soldiers they managed to retrieve and then tried to save at the hospitals, but who then died (before which any vital organs in good condition mysteriously disappeared). These would be plausible for the amount of time it takes to cremate a body (around a day), with the deaths left in the field being much higher.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

I read a really creepy story about Ikrainian mobile crematoriums today. Crematoriums in Kharkiv and Dnepropetrovsk are running 24-7 to burn Ukrainian casualties, but apparently the Ukrainian military has also gotten a hold of mobile crematoriums and use them to burn their losses.

Kind of interesting, given that neither Orthodox Christians or practicing Jews are supposed to be cremated in most circumstances. The Ukro Orthodox Church is pretty much a state mouthpiece at this point, I assume, and I doubt many Yids are finding their way to the front lines.

At least in the USA until the 1990s Catholics operated under the same rule, you needed approval from a Bishop to have cremated ashes buried in a Catholic ceremony/interred in a Catholic cemetery. Nowadays pretty much anything goes for them, though. Not sure if Eastern Rite Catholics (most Catholics in Ukraine are not Roman Catholic) follow that or not.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

I read a really creepy story about Ikrainian mobile crematoriums today. Crematoriums in Kharkiv and Dnepropetrovsk are running 24-7 to burn Ukrainian casualties, but apparently the Ukrainian military has also gotten a hold of mobile crematoriums and use them to burn their losses.

The advantage is twofold. Less official losses, the dead soldier just “disappears” which means no compensation has to be paid. (Or can be stolen.)

The other advantage is that no crematorium workers can then give out any actual number of losses. And of course avoiding the public humiliation of seeing military trucks pull up to crematoriums multiple times a day.

This sounds an awful lot like ukrainian cope from 2022 about russians cremating their own dead in the field because they were embarassed of admitting they lost people.

 

[Procopius]

As far as i can see, there is no "international airspace" in the baltic area. Actually, there is a portion of airspace which is part of russian airspace, in the Kaliningrad Area

Here's another report which shows a vague flight path. I'm not sure how a plane can claim to be protecting underwater cables. And isn't this said to be one of the most surveilled bits of sea in the world.

I've not seen the Tass report, but Russian intelligence is usually good on these matters.

This photo is all over the war blogosphere, but not mentioned in any regular English language news. An upcoming government of "National Unity"?


Are Trump and Putin really that different? I didn't realise that Russia had such a problem with illegal immigration, but rounding up 500 in just one shopping centre says otherwise. Maybe they could get together to share tips on how to tackle this.


Mercouris is always a thoughtful analyst and has some good sources, but sometimes he can be a bit wordy when he's not not much to say. "This comes from a reliable contact and I'm not going to name them but instead waffle for 10 minutes on why I won't name them." Today however the first hour of his programme is good. He's been told that Russia has built a new factory to produce the Oreshnik, and is looking to make it an everyday weapon in their arsenal later in 2025, along with a variant that has some sort of thermobaric warhead. The idea being that Oresknik 1.0 cracks open the bunkers then Oreshnik 2.0 destroys all the exposed personnel. A bit like destroying an ants nest. He also discusses the "100 year treaty" that Keir Starmer just signed with Ukraine, and which he has read in full. Among other provisions it says that either side can pull out with six months notice. It also talks about both sides uniting to protect the Black, Baltic and Azov seas. As he says, neither has a Baltic sea coast or is remotely near to that, and Ukraine lost access to the sea of Azov a couple of years ago and it's Black sea coast seems to be going the same way. The last half hour veers off in to Russia-Iran relations.

 

[warhammerautist]

2 more days, let's hope nothing major happens geopolitically until the 20th.

 

[Slicc Vicc]

I didn't realise that Russia had such a problem with illegal immigration, but rounding up 500 in just one shopping centre says otherwise. Maybe they could get together to share tips on how to tackle this.

It's the same as bongistan and dumbfuckistan

Now here's for something beautiful (2 weeks old Rabotino masterpiece):

Plus some sick edits for historical purposes (NvSFW):

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

There are plenty of Yeonmi Parks willing to say any random shit for money.

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Kek, 'dis bitch. They put her back on the shelf real fast after the Rogan talk. She got a lot of free plastic surgery out of the deal though - so pumped full of polymers her skin has the sheen of an oil spill.

I have noticed some respectable commentators on the conflict that are Pro-Russian (I'm thinking of Simplicus) are quick to swallow whole enemy information that confirms what they want to hear. Zelensky can say Moscow by Christmas and such people will scoff and do a detailed analysis of existing AFU arsenal and production numbers to prove it can't be done. But then Zelensky says something like 'MIA is currently 300,000' and the same people will say 'see! They're admitting it! Straight from horses mouth!'

They seem to forget that a liar can lie out of both corners of his mouth. It catches me off guard when the otherwise sober people get drunk on such information.

 

[Slicc Vicc]

2 more days, let's hope nothing major happens geopolitically until the 20th.

Watch nothing fucking change. 35 year old pigger experiment will be shut down and nobody will remember it after 5 years. Rest in piss.
Here's why Putin/Russia can't stop won't stop until the last inbred Hapsburg gets handed a big fat L:

They are actually inbred btw. Their Spanish branch self-deleted because of it.

Spoiler: extra

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

Here's why Putin/Russia can't stop won't stop until the last inbred Hapsburg gets handed a big fat L:

This shit with Russia as "le heckin evil colonial empire" makes me nervous, especially when we see how they intend to partition Russia. Most of these new nations are being created for pitifully small ethnic groups, and the new states would invariably be majority or even supermajority Russian. "Decolonizing" Russia would require the same thing it would take to decolonize America: genocide. I know here on the funny racist internet forum, people call for TND, TKD, etc. all the time but I suspect most would balk at it going beyond autistic internet talk and none of it is acceptable to people in the mainstream. This Russia shit is alarmingly palitable to the mainstream normie, and I fear that even if Russia wins, the reprecussions of this rhetoric have yet to see their end.

 

[Slicc Vicc]

We aIl remember what happened last time a pan-europeoid chimpout was attempted with a certain painter leading the charge. It's nothing new and it keeps rearing its head every dozen years or so (see CIA's 'captive nations' rag).
I saw the same map (afaik it was 6 partitions) in the late 90s right before suddenly a wild Putin appeared.

 

[Overly Serious]

This shit with Russia as "le heckin evil colonial empire" makes me nervous, especially when we see how they intend to partition Russia. Most of these new nations are being created for pitifully small ethnic groups, and the new states would invariably be majority or even supermajority Russian. "Decolonizing" Russia would require the same thing it would take to decolonize America: genocide. I know here on the funny racist internet forum, people call for TND, TKD, etc. all the time but I suspect most would balk at it going beyond autistic internet talk and none of it is acceptable to people in the mainstream. This Russia shit is alarmingly palitable to the mainstream normie, and I fear that even if Russia wins, the reprecussions of this rhetoric have yet to see their end.

It's counter-intuitive but putting the resultant states under the control of ethnic minorities would be by design. If you look at the USA's various authoritarian regimes they install it's usually a minority in control because that way those in power are dependent on foreign backing to remain in control. The same is done internally in Western society with the elevation of groups that ordinarily would be at the bottom of society into positions of privilege, because they know they must champion the people who put them there or lose that status.

Western pundits love saying "our democracy" as a phrase because actual democracy would be a threat to them.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

The only reason they pretend to give a shit about "decolonizing" anything is because it's a lot easier to buy off or just straight up bamboozle a nation of 150 thousand Yakuts and allow BP and gold mining companies from the west to start drilling and sucking resources from under the tundra.

 

[TexWiller]

Here's another report which shows a vague flight path. I'm not sure how a plane can claim to be protecting underwater cables. And isn't this said to be one of the most surveilled bits of sea in the world.

Interesting how the flight path is conveniently not shown for the part close to Kaliningrad FIR. Or they had the transponder off, which is not a great idea.

The Br1150 is an antisom aircraft, equipped with a set of ad hoc sensors. It can also be armed, so if they painted it with a S400 radar they had absolutely a great reason to do so.
so they had a sort of valid excuse to be there if they really think subs there are snipping undersea cables but then stay the ef off russian airspace (french registered aircrafts are banned from russian airspace) , keep xpndr on, and contact russian air traffic control to swear you will not even get close.

There are airspaces where you better be 120% sure to let air traffic control know your intentions.

attached a pic of Kaliningrad FIR, which borders with other FIRS and there aint no "international airspace" there.
Sorry for the aviation related sperging
Fun note. i had a flight to StP planned for June 2022....

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

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[Nopenopenope]

As a member of Norf FC who's out in the Shire's, when this whole thing kicked off, there was at least one or two Ukrainian flags in each village. Nowadays however, there are none. Even in the towns and smaller cities you'd be better off looking for 'Where's Waldo/Wally' shirts than Ukrainian flags.

Barely anyone up in the Norf cares for Ukraine anymore, apart from the middle-class and snobby arseholes (which are few and far between, they're all down south) and government twats. Mostly out of anger seeing the billions of pounds that could help rejuvenate and reindustrialise the area being spunked on some corrupt Slavic shithole we have never given a shit about in the past.

Fellow Norf here. At the start I saw a few too, plus the typical basic bitches putting the Uke flag on a car window (hilariously, one I noticed was upside down). Since then, nothing.

I suspect if I ventured into a city centre where the bugmen are I'd see a few more, when your work output consists of sitting a desk answering emails I can see why someone would have time for caring. But not one person I have met in the north who actually uses their hands for work, be it engineer all the way to cleaner, give a fuck whatsoever about Ukraine. The ones that do, care in the "wrong" way, as in they think we provoked Russia in conjunction with other globohomo states, and that we should never have got involved.

The same sentiments with our money being spent on it too. We keep getting told by the new government that there is no money for the things we actually want like better healthcare, but there is always money to give to Ukraine or to provide for the brown tide washing up on our beaches.

Kier Starmer is a limp wristed faggot, he's only coming out with all these tough words in an attempt to channel wartime prime minister energy which has proven to boost popularity in the past. The problem is, most of the public don't care about this particular war, and do not believe Putin will continue to invade Europe past the Ukraine border (if it ever went that far anyway), no matter what all these war hungry politicians say.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

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hopefully they do the right thing and stop sending all this money to Ukraine with no strings attached

 

[Gondolindrim]

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As much as I dislike Trump, I'd be oh so happy if they kept up with embarassing Zelensky like this. Fuck that munchkin.