Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

[Betonhaus]

the news on the fires is being covered up for a couple of simple reasons. Its embarrassing obviously, but the bigger issue is how the federal government is going to rebuild this, because there's no way California can do it itself. Another major problem is the states war with fire insurers. I'm not sure what happened, i was never there, but knowing how humans are i assume that some disagreement took place that never got resolved, leaving some pretty hurt feelings. This fire confirms all the complaints the fire insurers had, and they are going to go through the wreckage and catalogue ALL the damage. Its looking like greater than 300 billion. This in itself isn't the issue, but remember the federal government? They aren't going to send in investigators to figure out how much it will all cost, they'll just use the fire insurers numbers. So to avoid all that, the state is taking proactive measures to fuck with the insurers assessments. Part of the assessment is from the news: otherwise the insurer will have to send a man out on foot to gather the numbers for all the damage. anyway.

So do they want the number to be bigger so they get more money or smaller so they look less incompetent?

 

[Turkey Beef]

I had a buddy who when I was talking about the lack of updates and visuals on the fire making it hard to know its true extent

He said this

"Seems like they are just suppressing how bad it is until trump gets in power so he can be responsible for the true extent of the destruction"

Neolibs wouldn't be neolibs if they aren't always projecting their failures and psychosis onto everyone else, but regardless, it's less about sticking it to mean daddy Drumpf and moreso just damage control on behalf of themselves. Anyone with a working brain cell can tell that the likes of Gavin Newscum I mean Newsome, Karen Bass etc are about as anti-charismatic and unlikable, which is saying a lot even for shitlibs. Even before the 2024 election took place, Newscum was already being floated as a 2028 contender and despite his clear lack of intelligence, wit, or social grace of any kind, Newscum is still fanatically devoted to the cause of neoliberalism, so much that he's still showing his smugfag mug around in the likes of MSNBC to bemoan about nonbelievers being guilty of "disinformation."

Creatures like him are genuinely tiresome, western liberalism is tiresome.

 

[a hapless toad]

To be fair to China, half their history has been "river floods, 20 million dead"

To be fair to California, our entire history up until forest mismanagement etc has been "lol fire" rather than "ermahgerd conflagration whyyyyy?!?"

California is dumb for not keeping fire in mind and China is dumb for not keeping flooding in mind.

 

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88% of the turbine hall batteries put there by Vistra energy have burned so far, with the rest set to be fuel, cause apparently they couldn't cordon off sections of this shit with brick walls or something more fire resistant than additional batteries during construction. The Titanic was planned better than this.

 

[Vesperus]

88% of the turbine hall batteries put there by Vistra energy have burned so far, with the rest set to be fuel, cause apparently they couldn't cordon off sections of this shit with brick walls or something more fire resistant than additional batteries during construction. The Titanic was planned better than this.

There was a photo in the PRN article I posted upthread:

It's like a line of dominos, although one of the things I've noticed about dominos is they don't usually explode into an unquenchable inferno of toxic turbo-death.

 

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There was a photo in the PRN article I posted upthread:
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It's like a line of dominos, although one of the things I've noticed about dominos is they don't usually explode into an unquenchable inferno of toxic turbo-death.

Oh, they put some big fans next to them. That'll help put out the fires.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Why would they need hand crews? Apparently their plan has been to just ask other counties to do that work instead.

LAcoFD is probably the first agency LAFD begs for help.

To be fair, hotshot crews deploy from all over the state.*

Interagency Hotshot Crews(top level hand crews first to be assigned initial/direct attack) deploy from all over the Mountain West. Especially when it's the middle of winter and California is the only place retarded enough to be on fire. If they weren't busy with prescribed burns or other forest management California has declared Verboten, they probably got deployed to Cali.

I've seen non-hotshot crews deploy to Idaho and Montana from as far away as Missouri and Kansas. I wouldn't be surprised if hand crews from Florida have deployed to the intermountain.

What are the odds they are still not contained by the time Trump is President again?

100%

For some reason Forbes put up a video today with footage from two days ago of the fire then.

Isn't Forbes Breaking News a pajeet channel like CNN-News18 and CNBC-TV18?

has shared a local article in the Moss Landing fire thread

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88% of the turbine hall batteries put there by Vistra energy have burned so far, with the rest set to be fuel cause apparently they couldn't cordon off sections of this shit with brick walls or something more fire resistant than additional batteries during construction.

They put masonry walls on 4 sides to ensure any fire was extra spicy, what more do yo want?

 

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Needs a /private tag

How do I format this tag? before the post becomes edit locked? Not even really sure that's necessary. But if you think Stalin needs his post obscured, I'll do it.

They put masonry walls on 4 sides to ensure any fire was extra spicy, what more do yo want?

I suppose Cali really has done it, they've created the world's most efficient industrial oven.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Not even really sure that's necessary.

oh yeah and that.

Dear Feeder is cruel and indifferent. You'd think he'd update his own locked thread on the matter, but that takes effort.

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Dear feeder is cruel and indifferent. You'd think he'd update his own locked thread on the matter, but that takes effort.

Got it done. Hadn't heard that before.

 

[Vesperus]

LAcoFD is probably the first agency LAFD begs for help.

I might be going out on a limb here, but I suspect LA County suffer from the same bullshit LA City do.
My suggestion (as a Bong who lives in Kiwistan, but spends a chunk of time in NorCal) is to hand all rural firefighting & mitigation over to CalFire and the CCC.
Then there's no inter-agency horseshit, and any failures belong to the governor.

 

[TrinityReformed]

they've created the world's most efficient industrial oven.

Efficient enough to reach the legendary 6 million?

 

[Toolbox]

Efficient enough to reach the legendary 6 million?

Mmh, that number seems a bit high, does it not? Maybe a couple million.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

Seems to me a similar program needs to be mandated on California. But for Fire instead of Flood.

No, it shouldn't be a national responsibility (and funds). Californians should be forced to eat the bowl of shit they've made for themselves. Any federal aid Trump gives should only be done on the provision that California does what he wants. Newscum and similar parasites should be buck broken till they're singing praises of Trump at the drop of a hat.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Especially when it's the middle of winter and California is the only place retarded enough to be on fire.

Florida, Hawaii and New Jersey would all be thread-worthy states, but if there is truly a peak lolcow state it is California.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

besides the fact that its like an order of magnitude larger than anything we've ever built in space

Gundam's Earth Federation Force solved this particular problem by constructing a fukton of smaller mirror assemblies. And then, having them aligned in one large formation directed toward whatever the target is.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Got it done. Hadn't heard that before.

It's not an issue in A&N threads, but is in Happenings. 99% of why A&N is hidden to non-users.

My suggestion (as a Bong who lives in Kiwistan, but spends a chunk of time in NorCal) is to hand all rural firefighting & mitigation over to CalFire and the CCC.

My suggestion would be for LAFD to delegate anything that isn't solidly a metro FD issue or capability to LAcoFD, but nobody listens to me. This would include the tractor company, the heavy rescue rotators, and the kids in the volunteer hand line crew. Handing anything over the to Cal Fire, AKA the California Department of Forestry, is ceding the initiative.

Florida, Hawaii and New Jersey would all be thread-worthy states, but if there is truly a peak lolcow state it is California.

Florida at least understands it exists as an annual tinderbox and does something about it and New Jersey understands the Pine Barrens enough to build Mad Max brush trucks. California just burns.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Florida at least understands it exists as an annual tinderbox and does something about it and New Jersey understands the Pine Barrens enough to build Mad Max brush trucks. California just burns.
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Yeah I didn't mean in terms of fire management, I just meant as states in general.
Just in general California out-loonies and makes the most insane headlines and crazy decisions of them all.

 

[TrinityReformed]

Gundam's Earth Federation Force solved this particular problem by constructing a fukton of smaller mirror assemblies. And then, having them aligned in one large formation directed toward whatever the target is.
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I'm pretty sure it was Zeon, not the Feddies.

 

[Core Theorist]

I'm pretty sure it was Zeon, not the Feddies.

No, you're probably thinking of one of the Colony lasers.

Spoiler: gundam autism

The Feddies had the Solar (flare) System 1 used during the battle for A Baoa Qu (original gundam anime, etc) and then the Solar (flare) system 2 used during the response against Operation Stardust. The Zeeks used the first colony laser called the Solar Ray during the same battle but Gihren used it to assassinate his father during the pre-battle peace talks instead of actually attacking the feddies. Then during the Gryps conflict the Titans made another colony laser.