Genshin Impact

[DenseDeerFather]

Because IT IS shit and absurdly time consuming and expensive. Literally people only defend it because "At least it has guarantee unlike Fate and other gacha". Don't tell me you think 50/50 is good too, that's another thing every modern gacha copies now.

Time retention is a real bitch. I suspect that's why MHY refuses to drop a skip button in Genshin and HSR. A guarantee is nice but it's still a slog to get to that point.

It sort of helps if you skip liberally for completely bull reasons that makes sense only to you.

I'll say the brazilian VA industry is also really bad. There was a lot of drama in the Mortal combat 10 dub because they chose a rock singer to voice Cassie Cage... except the woman has a very thick accent and no experience so it was universally agreed to be awful.

Oh, it's nice to see that there's a Portuguese version of the Ronda thing happening to another Blade/Cage cast.

Do tell, did y'all get a Portugese Megan Fox too?

The weapon banner released with no guarantee either leading to the infamous "Staff of homeless" memes.

I recall the change came about because some streamer spent 2k on the weapon banner. Insane.

 

[LucasSomething]

I recall the change came about because some streamer spent 2k on the weapon banner. Insane.

That was Tectone of all people lol. But i dont think he was the sole reason, the weapon banner was starting to get flak even in china because whales found it impossible to R5 their favourite weapons.

Note how epitomized path point doesn't carry to next banner, it's made to appease whales aiming to R5 at once and is not F2P friendly*.

 

[The Lawgiver]

t's not like anyone ever point out that every tribe hero is the only vision holder of that tribe competing

Some of the npcs and enemies have visions and it's implied there's more than shown in general with vision bearers in genshin.

Natlan is a nation of war that has been "ravaged by war."

have you done the world quests that go into the history of the country? The war shit goes back over 1000 fucking years and natlan's cut off from the rest of tevyat due to the abyss war shit destroying the fucking ley lines

I apparently never hit "send" on these above quotes, and have no clue how far back in the thread they were now... but eh whatever. I'm sending them through anyways.

but the main issues are the low barrier to entry

Nah, the barrier for entry in VA shit these days is too high IMO because it requires you to know people in california, one specific area of canada, or texas that already has a job. it's "low entry" on paper, but in practice there's a reason you only see like the same few VAS in fucking everything save for some exceptions. I'm a guy with a really weird sounding voice people have said should be used for voice over stuff a few times. But yeah I don't meet the VA criteria of being involved in theatre kid shit or some other media industry beforehand or knowing the right people or living in FUCKING CALIFORNIA so I'll just have to keep rotting in the situation I've been in for over a decade now. By "weird" I don't mean like I sound like a freak or anything I mean like my voice just is bizzarely recognizable and not really that deep. Closest guy I can think of voice wise is null but even then his voice doesn't sound anything like my voice. Anyways I don't even know if it was possible for me to if I'd even go through with that kind of stuff but me looking intoit years ago and finding out just how fucked up and walled off shit was was something else.

Because IT IS shit and absurdly time consuming and expensive. Literally people only defend it because "At least it has guarantee unlike Fate and other gacha". Don't tell me you think 50/50 is good too, that's another thing every modern gacha copies now.

The weapon banner released with no guarantee either leading to the infamous "Staff of homeless" memes.

Personally I just spend time crafting 4 star weapons and then just keeping them and whatever 4 star ones I rolled on my characters. 5 star ones aren't that big of a difference but there is a little more base damage. Most characters' lore weapons being 5 star roll tied stuff is kinda sad/unfortunate/pain in my ass. Some of them are tied to event stuff like dodoco tales or that one sword for kazuha which was probably more of a pain for some people that missed those.

 

[Noebel]

Heaven forbid MHY start adding 6* too

I didn't played that one, but it seems like their 6 stars are genshins 5 stars, judging by the rates.

But yeah I don't meet the VA criteria of being involved in theatre kid shit or some other media industry

You can try and make it big on youtube dubbing some memes you find on the internet. But for making it a career you'd better undertake some voice training so you would have a range of voices. If you can do just one, you'd struggle to find work more than once a year.

 

[Shart Attack]

have you done the world quests that go into the history of the country? The war shit goes back over 1000 fucking years and natlan's cut off from the rest of tevyat due to the abyss war shit destroying the fucking ley lines

I've done all of them. The final part of Citlali's village quest came out after I made my complaints. It contains this scene, which just reinforced my gripes with Natlan's design:

So Natlan:
- Is the Nation of War.
- Worships the God of War.
- Is constantly sending warriors into the Night Kingdom to fight the Abyss, knowing failure means the Abyss will invade Natlan and then all of Teyvat.
- Has still been faced with brutal Abyss invasions throughout the centuries, which is explicitly stated as clear as day in Citlali's quest.
- Still gives no thought whatsoever to defense of the home front and builds matchstick cities in places that would be difficult or impossible to defend.

I think that's a problem with Natlan's setting. But then again, I've already admitted to being overwhelmed by and burned out on the sheer volume of lore Genshin shoves at us. Maybe there's some NPC or in-game book that gives a good explanation for why the Scions of the Canopy built their flammable city halfway up the cliff instead of on top of it, where it would be almost impossible to assault. Maybe I just skimmed past it. Or maybe HoYo cares more about making things that look interesting than military strategy, which inadvertently introduces some dumb shit into Natlan's setting.

 

[The Lawgiver]

You can try and make it big on youtube dubbing some memes you find on the internet. But for making it a career you'd better undertake some voice training so you would have a range of voices. If you can do just one, you'd struggle to find work more than once a year.

i do funny voices all the time man I'm just not like california guy or pro trained but it's better than like 99%of the voices I hear in current year. My standard talking voice is anime guy sounding but not like forced anime inflection if that makes any sense. Going by vague memory of what other people have said here. Once again my closest comparison (despite not being exact) is null, not anime guy. Unless you consider null also anime guy.
EDIT: ALSO NOT MOVING TO FUCKING BRITAIN SORRY

Maybe there's some NPC or in-game book that gives a good explanation for why the Scions of the Canopy built their flammable city halfway up the cliff instead of on top of it, where it would be almost impossible to assault. Maybe I just skimmed past it. Or maybe HoYo cares more about making things that look interesting than military strategy, which inadvertently introduces some dumb shit into Natlan's setting.

Nigga it's le-koro you need to tree jump and wind fly to get there.

Once again natlan's war reputation is solely because of the abyss war and the shit involving the dragons from ancient times before the abyss war.

 

[Noebel]

gives no thought whatsoever to defense of the home front and builds matchstick cities in places that would be difficult or impossible to defend

Fortifications mean nothing if the enemy can just teleport inside.

i do funny voices all the time man

There's more to the voicework, and you don't have social capital to skip it. Start from dubbing memes or something.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

If you can do just one, you'd struggle to find work more than once a year.

I mean, that hasn’t stopped Patrick Warburton. Guys made a career out of having exactly 1 voice, but he’s probably an outlier.

Would still take him over Nolan North or Troy Baker voicing literally everyone like it felt like they did for the last decade…

 

[Noebel]

voicing literally everyone

Hoo boy, you haven't heard that guy who voiced the Dude in the infamous standalone Postal 2 mod Corkscrew Rules. He has almost a magical ability to make every character he voices to sound like him.

 

[Shart Attack]

Fortifications mean nothing if the enemy can just teleport inside.

All the more reason not to live on a wooden balcony 500 feet in the air. If Hilichurls with torches can paradrop anywhere they want, I would much prefer to have solid ground under my feet than a platform made out of dry wood. I really don't understand why this is such a contentious opinion.

 

[Clancee]

All this discussion on how the tribes have built their homes is starting to make me wonder how will the upcoming Collective of Plenty tribe village will look. The other tribes have villages that make sense (People of the Springs live near water, Children of Echoes live in rocky regions, etc).

Scions of the Canopy would have made much more sense living in a forest or something, Chasca's tribe already lives in an elevated area. What's the Collective of Plenty supposed to be?

 

[Troon Whisperer]

the Collective of Plenty are the luchador tribe and pretty much live in a giant gym with a wrestling ring.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Fortifications mean nothing if the enemy can just teleport inside.

There's more to the voicework, and you don't have social capital to skip it. Start from dubbing memes or something.

I've done things like that once or twice but I'm not going to share them anywhere here. I'm not doing those for sponsors or anything dumb like that I don't wanna be a shill for shit lmao.

All the more reason not to live on a wooden balcony 500 feet in the air. If Hilichurls with torches can paradrop anywhere they want, I would much prefer to have solid ground under my feet than a platform made out of dry wood. I really don't understand why this is such a contentious opinion.

Hillichurls can't paradrop. When they get teleported places it's by the abyss mages who are manipulating them, and natlan despite being at threat of the abyss isn't really at threat with the abyss order. The abyss order is made of Khanreans who either got cursed with immortality or mutated into beast like creatures but retained their minds after the incident of 500 years ago. Hillichurls despite being the citizens caught in a loop of immortal death/revival do not retain the same intellect or minds as the people they once were. There's small evidence of abyss order activity in Natlan but it primarily seems to be tied to research of the area's ancient ruins instead of throwing it into chaos and conquering it. the "the abyss" entities in natlan are much more ancient and primordial save for the rift wolves, which are an artificially created experiment turned corrupted invasive abyss oriented species that have kind of clawed their way into pretty much everywhere in tevyat. Beings corrupted severely by the abyss seem to act as part of it. The archon quest boss kind of takes that to it's extreme with how it seems to be the collective consciousness of several different people corroded and melded into a single nightmarish creature taking the form of a long dead legendary dragon, or the one world quest boss that's like a rift wolf made of a shitload of smaller riftwolves.

All this discussion on how the tribes have built their homes is starting to make me wonder how will the upcoming Collective of Plenty tribe village will look. The other tribes have villages that make sense (People of the Springs live near water, Children of Echoes live in rocky regions, etc).

Scions of the Canopy would have made much more sense living in a forest or something, Chasca's tribe already lives in an elevated area. What's the Collective of Plenty supposed to be?

Well it's in/near a volcano... So by the name it's either gonna be some kind of garden or if we're going by location it's just gonna be fucking Ta koro.

 

[LucasSomething]

All the more reason not to live on a wooden balcony 500 feet in the air. If Hilichurls with torches can paradrop anywhere they want, I would much prefer to have solid ground under my feet than a platform made out of dry wood. I really don't understand why this is such a contentious opinion.

To be """fair""", you can excuse natlan shit defenses away by saying the hilichus are just too stupid to do advanced warfare so natlan never had to get good. The abyss doesn't seem to have a real strategy beyond "spawn them inside the colosseum and YOLO".

The average common hilichu is also canonically fodder and were getting destroyed by normal people. It's only when the lawachu, rogues and rifthounds appear that it becomes a real threat, with none of them being notably intelligent (at most you have hilichu weaponizing slimes).

Or maybe HoYo cares more about making things that look interesting than military strategy, which inadvertently introduces some dumb shit into Natlan's setting.

That's the secret, 95% of the time the writers want to have something extremely cinematic stories so they do the standard holywood war.

100 people from the left run straight into 100 people from the right and suddendly everyone is doing exclusive 1v1 exaggerated weapon clashes in the background. One hero is shooting random arrows at offscreen and a loser is getting shot out of nowhere. The mc solos multiple people. Reinforcements appear and the enemy runs. Then we get some shots of corpses and dropped weapons. It also started raining either at the start or end for no reason.

example:

(edit: rewatching this made me realize Sara retreated to the wrong island, away from kujou camp?)

The portals and fatui reinforcements in natlan makes me thing it was unironically inspired by Avengers.

 

[Shart Attack]

Irrelevant stuff.

Early in the Natlan Archon questline, you do the multi-stage invasion battle thing. During the first stage of the battle, you'll fight two Pyro Hilichurl Shooters somewhere near the Scions of the Canopy village. These enemies who use fire as a weapon have invaded Natlan from somewhere. Whether they paradropped in or crawled there from the big door under Sumeru is irrelevant. They're within sight of the stupid balcony village with fire arrows in hand. Here is a cutscene from later in the invasion:

The first enemies you see are red Hilichurls (the ones who use Pyro) and Pyro Abyss Mages, who have invaded Natlan from somewhere . Then the gates open and you see enemies "paradropping" in, some of them in the shape of Blazing Axe Mitachurls, holding axes that can burn things. You can also see red Hilichurls running at the heroes from the direction of the gates, heavily implying although not directly showing that they're also dropping in from the gates. No amount of Abyss codex entries can convince me the enemies of humanity couldn't possibly approach the stupid balcony village with fire, because the game shows it happening.

I'm not asking for the game to be a West Point strategy manual. I wouldn't normally even think about stuff like this, but Natlan keeps throwing shit like motorcycles, flying railguns, and Atari sprites at me that break my immersion and make me start noticing things like how dumb the balcony village is.

The portals and fatui reinforcements in natlan makes me thing it was unironically inspired by Avengers.

Avengers Endgame did set box office records in China. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[LucasSomething]

The 5.4 genshin update will add a "battle tower" with 100 arenas and you must clear them at 30 seconds. This is an example of the final levels.

(thats 2 enemies per arena)

If you clear all 100 you get a name card. That will pretty much be exclusive to whales because i don't see myself clearing that.

Even the current event is targeted around endgame abyss, with the 6 million hp bosses and 90s timer, but this is insane. Does hoyo really not give a fuck anymore lol. And we still wont get new world stages btw..

 

[Clancee]

Does hoyo really not give a fuck anymore lol.

Aside from maybe WuWa, Genshin still doesn't have any legitimate competition that would force Hoyo to innovate with this game. All their ideas for endgame content is basically "Kill tanky enemies and beat the clock".

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Don't let your dreams be memes. True DMG is OP. My Argenti was doing 1M ults. For the first time, Firefly did worse.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The first enemies you see are red Hilichurls (the ones who use Pyro) and Pyro Abyss Mages, who have invaded Natlan from somewhere

I literally pointed out that the abyss order is up to shady shit to begin with in natlan with the ruins. You don't think they'd use the calamity to try and gain some kind of quick advantage? It is dumb the entire tree place didn't catch on fire or whatever but the way they show it's fallen is it it's like literally just filled with rift wolves. The way you framed it it being not portals and shit but fucking paratroopers was why i reacted like I did to your claims.

Atari sprites

Ajaw is theone I've been able to 100% get used to because he's literally supposed to be a weird out of place thing and isn't treated as normal aside from like if people have already been awareof him for a long period of time. Was weirded out at first by his inclusion but then once I found out the reason why he exists the way he does it was a pretty neat excuse to implement that kind of thing. You're probably going to quote this again and change my text to "irrelevant stuff" or whatever but the reason ajaw is how he is is due to him being sealed with ancient pre-history vishap/dragon society tech from before they kind of collapsed society wise and eventually devolved into the current state you see them in in the various places in tevyat. Most of the advanced tech in natlan is explained away as reverse engineered ancient pre-history tech shit. I can understand the motorcycle as goofy as it is too, it's not like there haven't been things with wheels or motors before, Fontaine and Inazuma literally have hyper advanced humanoid robots that play an important part in their quest lines.

...I agree about the flying railgun being ridiculous though. it's kinda cool but absolutely retarded lore wise lmao it's not even ancient tech! it's made by another playable character in a workshop. A character that has fucking roller blades that let them skate up walls for some fucking reason.

in terms of believability with pre- established lore the natlan guys I can currently remember are ranked like this for me

1: Kachina (just a fucking drill being ridden by a kid, basic rock driller type stuff. can scale cliffs with it because it's boring into the side)

2: Kinich (Ajaw abuse, borrowing fraction of weird imprisoned spirit's power, grappling hook. basic tree tribe type shit aside from ajaw existing)

3: FUCKING MOTORCYCLE (BRRRMMBRMBRRMBRRRRRRRRM)

4: Mulani (ikea shark-eque entity surfing on air, what the fuck is this lmao. popeye ass punching animations )

5: WALL SKATER

6: GUN. FLYING GUN. FUCK AAAAAAAAUGH

 

[Dollar Store Sentai]

Have Clara about as good as I can get her. Have her on Poet set, so once battle starts she jumps up to 72/213. Just needs one more copy for C6




Once she is buffed by Sunday that jumps up even more