2025 Mass Deportations Electric Boogaloo

[John Badman]

This thread was titled very prematurely.

 

[Rendang]

I do wonder if there is an international generation that feels fortunate, and wishes to live, in an American society today.

So many of my other international acquaintances in college wish to graduate and leave back to their country to live a cushy life, or go to Europe to pursue a Ph.D. There's little appreciation of having the right to exercise an opinion, the huge academic foundation, or the ability to meet & make friends from traditionally hostile cultures. It's simply the wage, or social status that matters to them more often, and that worries me greatly for the future of America.

I am fortunate to be born in a immigrant family that found their original country to be flawed, both in family and culture, and wished to leave to the US. It doesn't mean we hate our heritage, but that we wished to reiterate on it. I don't think we'd ever be able to appreciate being able to cook with pork so readily, nor we would be able to exercise our (slightly) unhinged takes on being Christian.

The USA should accept people who have similar grievances of their culture, refugees of their own clan, whether it'd be the Mexican who had his family scarred from the cartel, or the Afghan refugee who wants to escape from Shariah law. These are people America can depend on during times of war.. Those who only wish to be here for financial gain should be excluded or regulated as much as possible, both legal and illegal; we already have enough American sociopaths, and we wouldn't want to further worsen this with more apathetic civilians.

 

[AbendCode12]

I do wonder if there is an international generation that feels fortunate, and wishes to live, in an American society today.

The USA should accept people who have similar grievances of their culture, refugees of their own clan, whether it'd be the Mexican who had his family scarred from the cartel, or the Afghan refugee who wants to escape from Shariah law. These are people America can depend on during times of war.. Those who only wish to be here for financial gain should be excluded or regulated as much as possible, both legal and illegal; we already have enough American sociopaths, and we wouldn't want to further worsen this with more apathetic civilians.

We've been doing that since 1965 and the results have been disastrous. Just look up Hmong murder suicide. The first generation may not hate you that much, but the succeeding generations will fall right in to the anti-white sentiment of the rest of America's minorities because they know instinctively it isn't there country. People who weren't successful in their home countries are unlikely to be successful in America since this country doesn't have much of a safety net unless you're mentally ill, which seems to be a bad life plan. Well, that's not entirely true. We have a massive safety net for illegal aliens that the native population is unable to access.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hmong+murder+suicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxK-cCe50sc

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I do wonder if there is an international generation that feels fortunate, and wishes to live, in an American society today.

We've been doing that since 1965 and the results have been disastrous. Just look up Hmong murder suicide. The first generation may not hate you that much, but the succeeding generations will fall right in to the anti-white sentiment of the rest of America's minorities because they know instinctively it isn't there country. People who weren't successful in their home countries are unlikely to be successful in America since this country doesn't have much of a safety net unless you're mentally ill, which seems to be a bad life plan. Well, that's not entirely true. We have a massive safety net for illegal aliens that the native population is unable to access.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hmong+murder+suicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxK-cCe50sc

That’s also why the stats of first generation immigrants is less skewed towards crime. Even if you look at say European immigrants in the 1800s a lot of their kids and grandkids were falling into gangs and organized crime.

 

[WhiteBoySummer]

Mass deportations will take a staggering amount of police power, and even more in uncooperative states. Either Trump gives each illegal alien due process and the ACLU ties him up in court, or due process is suspended and they're all thrown out. Even lib news outlets like NYT estimate 11 million illegals. There's going to be an unbelievable amount of violence and trauma happening if orange man goes through with his biggest promise.

Either way, I'm getting in early on this thread. Godspeed Tom Homan.

 

[AbendCode12]

Mass deportations will take a staggering amount of police power, and even more in uncooperative states. Either Trump gives each illegal alien due process and the ACLU ties him up in court, or due process is suspended and they're all thrown out. Even lib news outlets like NYT estimate 11 million illegals. There's going to be an unbelievable amount of violence and trauma happening if orange man goes through with his biggest promise.

Either way, I'm getting in early on this thread. Godspeed Tom Homan.

They've been saying its 'only 11 million' since George W Bush was president (2007). Liberals don't care about facts, and they change the numbers to suit their agenda.

 

[juanwick]

Mass deportations will take a staggering amount of police power, and even more in uncooperative states. Either Trump gives each illegal alien due process and the ACLU ties him up in court, or due process is suspended and they're all thrown out. Even lib news outlets like NYT estimate 11 million illegals. There's going to be an unbelievable amount of violence and trauma happening if orange man goes through with his biggest promise.

Either way, I'm getting in early on this thread. Godspeed Tom Homan.

Just declare them enemy combatants and drone them like Obama would.

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

They've been saying its 'only 11 million' since George W Bush was president (2007)

Its always 11 million because you niggers keep giving amnesty and free citizenship to any beaner who jumped the fence, takes them around 5 years to do it if they start the paperwork right away, "dreamers" my ass, meanwhile the niggas doing everything by the book legally can be waiting not years but decades outside waiting for a measly green card

You get the migrants you deserve

 

[umseriously]

Let's see if Trump really does sign his birthright citizenship executive order. It's not going to be retroactive, and he's already stated to be very sympathetic towards dreamers, so there should be no excuse for him not doing it tomorrow. This is it.

 

[Otterly]

Illegals do not take the jobs of skilled people - unless you think a guy who can do drywall is some kind of expert, or perhaps picking fruit or mowing the lawn? Do tell what professions of highly trained people are being replaced by illegals?

The lower end of the market is, that’s doesn’t make it OK.
Illegals are forming an actual slave class. The lefties are telling us that slavery of blacks was a terrible generational crime that requires us all living now to pay up for while it is demanding to keep a permanent slave class of people to have cheap lawn mowing and fruit picking. They literally are wanting a slave class.
Drywalling and fruit picking and lawn mowing jobs should be going to the natives. You managed to pick your fruit just fine before and before mechanical help with casual labour and temporary workers. Now that the growers are used to slave labour, they don’t want to give it up. Grandmasters here used to have to provide Ok accommodation for temporary workers and now they just shove twenty in a caravan and don’t provide toilets so they’re shitting in fields - most of the big e cool and hep outbreaks on both sides of the pond haven’t been from meat they’ve been from fruit and veg because of this.
The competition for jobs is always hurt by mass immigration. At the top end of the market it’s hurt by H1b visas and endless imports of cheap Indians. At the bottom end it’s hurt by illegals. Both types damage the native labour market because native workers are competing with people who are used to living like slaves. You cannot have a hobbling labour competition unless all places have similar conditions and pay, just like you can’t have a welfare state and open borders. Illegal immigration brings with it crime, people trafficking, child trafficking, rampant rape and abuse of adults and minors along the way, it is a literal trail of misery and corruption.
I don’t think slavery is OK - the illegals need to be deported, all of them, and we need some kind of protection for our own workers. If there needs to be a temp worker visa program, go ahead, as long as they pay tax, are not allowed to remain and have standards on how they’re fed/housed.
Illegal immigration is just a race to the bottom for worker conditions. You’d think the left would be keen to maintain workers rights and illegals just undermine it all

 

[ForTheHoard]

It's gonna be a rough day tomorrow, hombres.

 

[MadStan]

"Illegal immigration is just a race to the bottom for worker conditions. You’d think the left would be keen to maintain workers rights and illegals just undermine it all"

It is the GOP that refuses bills that guarantee a minimum wage. Having said that I am not prepared to overpay for my food stuffs to be more expensive than they are if we opt to go with American workers who are paid salaries that are too high.

The real battle isn't with immigration - it isn't. I was at the local shopping mall buying things for myself and my business and the stores - 100s of thousands of square feet were full of goods, tools and equipment not made here in the USA but made abroad. This has been going on for 25 years through all administrations and we no longer are able to produce these things here in the USA at a lower price - even if we slap on a tariff of 50%. The tariff is a tax on consumers, not the country they come from.

What really happened is we had American businesses that wanted to staff their manufacturing plants with cheap labor and they couldn't get it here in the USA, so they had China produce it for them and took away all the wages and jobs. There is no difference in having the work done by slave labor in another country or here - except that we do not benefit from the economic money spent by the workers in this country, and we get a huge trade deficit.

I don't purport to have the solutions.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Cartels were just deemed terrorist organizations and birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants won’t be granted lmao.

“Sir can we expect ICE raids starting tomorrow in major cities?”
“I don’t want to say when but it’s going to happen.”

 

[umseriously]

In about a week we'll be spammed videos of crying Latina moms being deported back to Tijuana with their children. I think the attitude this time though will be much colder than expected even from normies.

 

[01169]

I love how they try to frame it like illegals are making the economy work. Even if that's the case then that's a problem of the system in itself. Doesn't change the fact that you have to go back.

 

[TJT]

"Illegal immigration is just a race to the bottom for worker conditions. You’d think the left would be keen to maintain workers rights and illegals just undermine it all"

It is the GOP that refuses bills that guarantee a minimum wage. Having said that I am not prepared to overpay for my food stuffs to be more expensive than they are if we opt to go with American workers who are paid salaries that are too high.

The real battle isn't with immigration - it isn't. I was at the local shopping mall buying things for myself and my business and the stores - 100s of thousands of square feet were full of goods, tools and equipment not made here in the USA but made abroad. This has been going on for 25 years through all administrations and we no longer are able to produce these things here in the USA at a lower price - even if we slap on a tariff of 50%. The tariff is a tax on consumers, not the country they come from.

What really happened is we had American businesses that wanted to staff their manufacturing plants with cheap labor and they couldn't get it here in the USA, so they had China produce it for them and took away all the wages and jobs. There is no difference in having the work done by slave labor in another country or here - except that we do not benefit from the economic money spent by the workers in this country, and we get a huge trade deficit.

I don't purport to have the solutions.

The minimum wage is not really relevant in this context.

An overabundance of illegal low skill labor just makes it harder for citizen low skill labor to get jobs and creates a race to the bottom in wages. We should only be concerned with the citizens being hurt in this case. That being our most vulnerable citizens.

On the other side of the coin excessive legal immigration and temporary work visas (a la H1B) do exactly the same thing for higher skilled citizens.

Both are intrinsically detrimental to American Citizens and prioritizing foreigners over citizens means you are a shitbird.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

In about a week we'll be spammed videos of crying Latina moms being deported back to Tijuana with their children. I think the attitude this time though will be much colder than expected even from normies.

I was pro illegal immigration in 2018, which is around the time I signed up for kiwi farms. But a lot has changed since then in my life and in general.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

It's gonna be a rough day tomorrow, hombres.
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Illegal immigrants = get em out
H1B (which will be expanded to 5mil per year) = we need more

 

[TJT]

I am fine with H1B existing in principle. It is just heavily abused to bring in hordes of rank and file white collar workers that in no way require expertise you can only get in India.

You do not need Indians to do entry level white collar accounting positions, or software dev positions, or anything like that. Those skills are not special and its nonsense you can't find Americans to do them.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

I am fine with H1B existing in principle. It is just heavily abused to bring in hordes of rank and file white collar workers that in no way require expertise you can only get in India.

You do not need Indians to do entry level white collar accounting positions, or software dev positions, or anything like that. Those skills are not special and its nonsense you can't find Americans to do them.

Once you get a jeet in any kind of position of decision making its over.
They begin to REALLY fuck the H-1Bs.
They'll offer qualified Americans dirt cheap salaries for the jobs and when they say no they bring in family with H-1bs that are underqualified at way better salaries.