Harnassing green energy from the homeless - In which the hedonic treadmill becomes literal

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I was thinking this morning about how there's a lot of homeless and they cause a lot of problems. But what if we both housed them AND turned them into energy? I don't mean using them as fuel for a fire or mulching them. My proposal is that we build camps for the homeless where the homeless are used as human batteries.

There's a technology called "piezoelectricity" which generates electricity through mechanical force. The military looked into this by putting piezoelectric devices in boots to charge electronics, but it was abandoned because it wasn't comfortable. They also have patents to put piezoelectric devices in clothing and you could charge your phone through your own motion, but it probably also sucks to wear. But hobos don't care if they're comfortable since they sleep in tents on sidewalks in encampments surrounded by needles.

There's also the classic treadmill which a hobo could walk on to generate energy. They could be given free injections of fentanyl and meth for good performance if they desired. So this would be a literal hedonic treadmill, where hobos could walk on it all day, maybe pushing a lever to turn a wheel, and every so often they get free drugs. Hobos who refuse drugs could be the capos over the other hobos making sure they do their treadmill right to get drugs. Hobos could even keep their pets and their pit bulls could also walk on treadmills.

Some say this isn't efficient because you have to feed the hobos, but hobos eat literal garbage so they could be given goyslop, malt liquor, and meth to keep the cost of feeding them down. Another problem would be if the hobos were being lazy, which they often are, but then the hobos will just tard rage and could be sealed in a piezoelectric straitjacket so they'd still be good for energy. Although some hobos might die off or OD, they could be converted into fertilizer so they'd still be useful even in death.

Piezoelectric sensors mounted on the body and shoes can produce tens watts of power. They have eco-treadmills that produce 200 watts of electricity. If we assume each hobo is good for an average 50 watts of electricity, that amounts to a lot. Many big cities have thousands of homeless people, so this amounts to dozens or hundreds of kilowatts of energy. These hobo camp/power plant hybrids could be installed in every city to supplement the energy grid, like hobos could all work at night when the solar panels don't work. It's much more efficient than letting hobos simply leech off society's resources, and much more humane than letting the hobos roam about in an uncontrolled environment. Hobos could be literally powering our civilization!

So what do you think Kiwis? Is this how we'll solve homelessness?
 
There's also the classic treadmill which a hobo could walk on to generate energy.
This, but replace homeless people with fat people.

It was depicted in an episode of Black Mirror, but as a bad thing. Because how dare these disgusting blobs give something back to society, instead of just being a constant burden and waste of scarce resources.
 
So what do you think Kiwis? Is this how we'll solve homelessness?
When I was a young entrepreneur, I too had many ideas of creating jobs for homeless people. Until I tried out one of my schemes and I learned why I wasn't the spiritual next coming of Tesla and Warren Buffett, but a retard who knew nothing about the world.
 
It would still be a massive waste. The cost in both energy and materials to produce all of the crap you'd need to generate a fraction of what even a solar panel or wind turbine could generate, which are already crap, would be immense. It'd already outweighed what it's worth. But let's say you already somehow have all of this ready, resources be damned. The more energy you want to get out, the more you're just going to drain the people you're using to extract it, both in weight and literally taking heat energy from their bodies, making the whole idea moot. Thermodynamics. Incinerating them would make more sense.
 
It would still be a massive waste. The cost in both energy and materials to produce all of the crap you'd need to generate a fraction of what even a solar panel or wind turbine could generate, which are already crap, would be immense. It'd already outweighed what it's worth. But let's say you already somehow have all of this ready, resources be damned. The more energy you want to get out, the more you're just going to drain the people you're using to extract it, both in weight and literally taking heat energy from their bodies, making the whole idea moot. Thermodynamics. Incinerating them would make more sense.
Piezoelectricity is not heat energy, it's mechanical energy. But we would harvest heat energy too since we would force hobo to sleep in some sort of blanket that can harvest their body heat. That would get the most out of their food calories. As the hobo population ODs/neckropes or is rehabilitated (lol), the materials would be recycled.

Your point is true overall, but consider how much energy the average hobo drains from society. Every time an ambulance gets called out to narcan them, that's energy lost right there. Every time the cleanup crews have to pick up the needles and trash from an encampment, that costs energy. Drug trafficking to fuel their fent and tranq habits costs energy. Manufacturing fentanyl, tranq, and Thunderbird costs energy. Holocausting hobos costs energy. Currently hobos produce no energy and almost no value for society, so confining every hobo to a network of camps and then draining energy from them is actually hugely beneficial to society. And mass producing piezoelectric devices and green treadmills is a great subsidy for more productive industries than paying Big Pharma to make more narcan.
 
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Piezoelectricity is not heat energy, it's mechanical energy. But we would harvest heat energy too since we would force hobo to sleep in some sort of blanket that can harvest their body heat. That would get the most out of their food calories. As the hobo population ODs/neckropes or is rehabilitated (lol), the materials would be recycled.

Your point is true overall, but consider how much energy the average hobo drains from society. Every time an ambulance gets called out to narcan them, that's energy lost right there. Every time the cleanup crews have to pick up the needles and trash from an encampment, that costs energy. Drug trafficking to fuel their fent and tranq habits costs energy. Manufacturing fentanyl, tranq, and Thunderbird costs energy. Holocausting hobos costs energy. Currently hobos produce no energy and almost no value for society, so confining every hobo to a network of camps and then draining energy from them is actually hugely beneficial to society. And mass producing piezoelectric devices and green treadmills is a great subsidy for more productive industries than paying Big Pharma to make more narcan.
The only thing this will do is to help hobo's get high a couple of times extra, after they pawn the treadmills and piezoelectric devices.
 
Why not just use them for bio-fuel at that point? You'd still have to house, feed and discipline them to not do drugs. All that busy work seems tiresome.
No, you want them to do drugs. If they use meth, they don't need to sleep as much. And tranq and fent can be used as rewards for walking on the treadmill. They can even be trained to run on the treadmill to catch up to their drugs. It's a literal hedonic treadmill. Hobos don't ask for much either. They can sleep on racks (like ever been to an old naval museum like the bunks on submarines, like that) in sleeping bags that uses their body heat for energy, which recovers energy from the food they consume. Goyslop is cheap, they can eat crickets and nutraloaf or the same literal garbage they do now and supplemented with malt liquor for calories.
I think you overestimate the power you'd be able to acquire this way.
For reference: BBQ strikers generate sparks with a piezo element. Same with push-button lighters.
An AI told me it's about 0.1 watts per step and another paper says a wearable piezoelectric device has like 39 milliwatts per square centimeter which if worn over most of the body (which averages 16,000 square centimeters for adults) is like 30-40 watts. I used 50 watts per hobo as my baseline, since hobos would sometimes be hooked to a treadmill while drugged with meth and their output might vary by day, multiplied that by the number of hobos in a given city to use as the generating capacity for the hobo power plant. So that's a few hundred kilowatts of capacity and nationally we might install over 35 megawatts of hobo power.

Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211285520311411
The only thing this will do is to help hobo's get high a couple of times extra, after they pawn the treadmills and piezoelectric devices.
That's why they'd have shock collars and the good guys would be standing around there with guns.
 
another paper says a wearable piezoelectric device has like 39 milliwatts per square centimeter
It looks like this is the relevant blurb from the paper:
Jung et al. [194] developed a PVDF-based curved piezoelectric generator in order to harvest low-frequency biomechanical energy from body movement for powering wearable electronics. The system generated 3.9 mW/cm2 output power density that could power 476 LED bulbs. Average output power of 45 V and an average output current of 225 mA were reported at 35 Hz. Further, the developed system was integrated into a shoe-insole and to a watch strap. During running, the insole generator produced an average output voltage of 14 V and an average output current of 18 µA while the watch generator produced an average output voltage of 22 V and an average output current of 50 µA.
I'll disregard that you're off by a power of 10 since you miscalculated 39 × 16,000. That's would be 624 watts but after dropping the factor of 10 you get 62.4 watts so you got to a close enough answer.

But this is only under constant application of a 35Hz vibration. Reading on, the wearable devices (insoles and watch straps) made from the material produced 14V@18µA (252µW) and 22V@50µA (1.1mW) respectively during an actual run.
 
Feels demonic. There are probably ways you can make them productive that don't involve making a contraption that drains their life force. Won't meth turn them psychotic (if they weren't already) and give awful long term physical effects? They always look emaciated, not really fit for walking all day. I doubt this will work long term even if you give them a concoction of downers.
 
Well, I mean...you could try.

I've been told that I'm more of an energy suck tho, rather than, yaknow...the other way...

Where do I plug it in? 🧐
 
Just harvest them for organs if you are already losing your mind this much.
The-bio-energy is net negative. You are burning oil to make fertilizer to make food, to feed the bio-robots to make power.
Also, already done before:

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The Bio Reactor is Yuri’s main power source. In times of energy shortage infantry units can be placed inside a Bio Reactor. Each one will significantly increase the size of the power output. The infantry can be deployed from the Bio Reactor at any time, and are released if the Bio Reactor is destroyed.
 
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