US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Comedy is going to be so lame and gay for the next 4 years, btw. I mean, even more so than it has been

Maybe this is just me being wildly optimistic, but I disagree. It was one thing when Trump won because of the electoral college, but this was a landslide victory. He won by an overwhelming majority.

Hollywood and the media are usually a few years behind the zeitgeist, but I dare to hope that even they have realised that they can't alienate their audience any more and will eventually get with the program. The people looked at what they were supporting and very loudly said, "Fuck off." In an ideal world, I'd quite like to see a return to the sort of irreverent, sometimes edgy, arguably crueller humour we used to see in the late '90s and early 2000s.
 
Seeing all those smug Pajeets on twitter cry about no longer being able to get a green card in the US unless they have a naturalized kid that's 21 or older has been amazing. It really feels like a lot of immigrants just took it for granted that the USA will roll over and let them do whatever they want and didn't expect they wouldn't just simply get what they wanted.
 
But how and WHY are tariffs bad? The point of tariffs is to remain competitive in the global market for the benefit of the host country. If businesses will outsource jobs and products but still expect the host country to pay full price, the tariff will have them reconsider their choices. Encourage domestic trade and business to strengthen domestic economy. What's wrong with that?
Tariffs are a cost borne by the consumer. Businesses will always try to pass on these costs to the consumer.

An economist views a tariff like a consumption tax on foreign goods, like a 20% sales tax on Chinese washing machines specially. The tax income is collected during import instead of sale but it amounts to the same thing.

If in the long term tariffs could accomplish what they're supposed, i.e. increase American wages, manufacturing, jobs, adapting would still take time and the lesseed affordability of things in the interim is still "bad".

However, tariffx aren't supposed to just make goods cheap, they're supposed to keep wages high and production local, protect the value of labor. A good thing.

They represent a significant bargaining chip in Trumps inventory. Tariffs do also objectively put foreign made goods at some competitive disadvantage.

But if a tariff / whatever policy is insufficient to force the desired change to happen, because foreign production is still more viable even with tariffs... Then it's literally just a tax. A 3% tax on GPUS wouldn't have TSMC scrambling to somehow build a copy of their factory abroad. That'd just be a 3% tax.

Really it's simple: Tariffs are 'bad' in that Businesses will produce in the US what makes sense to produce in the US when that becomes the most economical/expedient thing to do and no sooner. One wishes to be quite skillful and exacting in how to apply them to get the result one wants. There's a certain minimum threshold that needs to be crossed before the desired change starts taking place and no sooner. Either a factory comes home or it doesn't, there is no in-between.

I wouldn't say they're bad - but one can absolutely argue it's a little risky.

Funnily enough, Biden-admim policy has, for the most part, been to just keep Trump policies in this regard - as an instrument for bargaining and control. Basically condemning him for implementeing them while gratefully keeping them in place (haha).
 
Seeing all those smug Pajeets on twitter cry about no longer being able to get a green card in the US unless they have a naturalized kid that's 21 or older has been amazing. It really feels like a lot of immigrants just took it for granted that the USA will roll over and let them do whatever they want and didn't expect they wouldn't just simply get what they wanted.
To be fair, they had every reason to think that because it's been true their entire lives and probably their entire parents' lives. I am glad something is being done about this but more should be done.
 
Seeing all those smug Pajeets on twitter cry about no longer being able to get a green card in the US unless they have a naturalized kid that's 21 or older has been amazing. It really feels like a lot of immigrants just took it for granted that the USA will roll over and let them do whatever they want and didn't expect they wouldn't just simply get what they wanted.
It's wild how many people in the US and Western Europe are somehow just fine with being the worlds public restroom. Nowhere else in the world can you just come in - illegally no less and start making demands, it's amazing how they've been able to condition so many people into thinking that's just how it's supposed to be. Thankfully we're seeing the tides turn, slowly at times but sometimes a small crack is all it takes for the bitch to come crashing down.
 
Seeing all those smug Pajeets on twitter cry about no longer being able to get a green card in the US unless they have a naturalized kid that's 21 or older has been amazing. It really feels like a lot of immigrants just took it for granted that the USA will roll over and let them do whatever they want and didn't expect they wouldn't just simply get what they wanted.
Vivek getting fired was a cherry on top.
 
Congrats to those who voted for him. Take a chill pill and relax, those who didn't.
Reminds me of this quote:

When Clinton won, I was disappointed, when Obama won, I was disappointed. When Biden won, I was disapointed. BUT I went to work and got over it…in about 10 minutes. These….people are unhinged and need some serious medication!​

- winterhorse290 on a YT vid ("Leftists Cope & Seethe Over Trump Win")
 
Maybe this is just me being wildly optimistic, but I disagree. It was one thing when Trump won because of the electoral college, but this was a landslide victory. He won by an overwhelming majority.
Trump won by 1.5 points.

Obama won in 2008 by 7.2 points. That’s what an “overwhelming victory” actually looks like.
 
It's wild how many people in the US and Western Europe are somehow just fine with being the worlds public restroom. Nowhere else in the world can you just come in - illegally no less and start making demands, it's amazing how they've been able to condition so many people into thinking that's just how it's supposed to be. Thankfully we're seeing the tides turn, slowly at times but sometimes a small crack is all it takes for the bitch to come crashing down.
fags like getting fucked up the ass and women just want to be fucked in general

the former is realizing they're being fags and the latter is getting tired of being beaten afterward
 
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Seeing all those smug Pajeets on twitter cry about no longer being able to get a green card in the US unless they have a naturalized kid that's 21 or older has been amazing. It really feels like a lot of immigrants just took it for granted that the USA will roll over and let them do whatever they want and didn't expect they wouldn't just simply get what they wanted.
As great as this is, won't the SCOTUS just strike it down for violating the 14th? I doubt we will realistically change to Jus Sanguinis overnight
I honestly believe we need to forbid dual-citizenship and create some sort of "You aren't a citizen, your children aren't automatically citizens, but you have permission to come and go from the country as you please and have work status" legal resident alien status.
This has been proposed a couple times, afaik germany has a program explicitly for "guest work" like this
 
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