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Correct. Pablo Escobar would probably still be alive today as one of the wealthiest men in the world if he hadn't started blowing up civilians. That was his end.

It's hilarious to see all these people unwittingly justify Trump's actions with their criticisms of it. "But they'll terrorize us harder if we actually treat them like terrorists!"
Only way to become Pablo Escobar rich is blowing up civilians
 
Declaring war on the cartels would be great for keeping the military industrial complex goons placated, instead of drone striking brown people in caves halfway across the world, they can switch to brown people in jungles close to home and get more support from the U.S. and Mexican population. If we're going to do endless war we can at least do it in a way that actually benefits us and not Israel.
It does benefit Mexicans but I saw this strange comment by someone on a left leaning subreddit that claimed if the U.S went to war with the cartels that Mexicans in the U.S would start rioting and burning down cities. I could understand if it was members of the cartels who did that, but why the hell would the average mexican american riot because Trump wanted to get rid of the reason you fled the country? Unless a majority of Mexicans support the cartels, there's no reason to burn down a city because Trump declared war on the cartels and not Mexico itself. Hell, the average Mexican would probably go "Sign me up Trump" and want to help out.
 
But yeah my take on all this "omg the cartels will kill americans if we attack them" is that it's a moronic take. Salvador wrangled its cartels. If they attack US citizens they're provoking a giant that is much bigger than anything they've ever faced. The cartel leaders want to be filthy rich, not dead and Solemani is an example of what Trump is willing to do.
America deciding it can throw its weight around because it has the most relevant currency and most DARPA toys to play with is exactly, exactly what caused forever wars in the Middle East. I believe you can win the war on drugs, but I also believe that would essentially boil down to a race war, and the measures taken would set a terrible precedent for any future conflicts on the homefront. We already have that faggot running the ADL talking about how we should use the exploding beeper trick on the American far-right (that's you.)

This also isn't getting into how China (who already uses Mexico to conduct their own opium war on the USA) and Russia (who would love nothing more than for the USA to eat shit and die because of Ukraine) would quietly slip cartels military-grade equipment under the table. All it would take for Trump's war with cartels to become unpopular is a lot of domestic bombing from people who are indistinguishable from kitchen prep, gardeners, construction workers and pretty much every blue collar contractor job. And I believe if the cartels were made to choose between dismantlement and poverty vs. all-out machismo fueled "ride or die" terrorism, they'd pick the latter.
I could understand if it was members of the cartels who did that, but why the hell would the average mexican american riot because Trump wanted to get rid of the reason you fled the country? Unless a majority of Mexicans support the cartels, there's no reason to burn down a city.
Because they do. If you plug your nose and talk to your average illegal, they'll just smirk and tell you "eeeey meng if you chry to do anytheeng the cartels will keel you meng."
 
So fuck the cartels.
Build the wall.
Drone strike/old-fashioned jet strike their leadership if you can.

But just be warned the cartels will use every tactic in the playbook that the goatfuckers in the Taliban and Hamas used.
I'm not opposed to military action against the cartels, but if you think "this guerilla war will be different", I have a big bridge to sell you.
The Cartels are deeply ingrained in Mexican society, outside of Mexico City they basically replaced the government. They are the state. An invasion would of course push them back, even the mexican army is too much to handle for them once an armed chopper shows up to blast them from above. But they would just retreat into the masses and hide there. So now you are stuck there occupying a country trying to where is waldo the cartel members in a population of 120 million people. That would cost millions a day. Meanwhile the narcos are open to consolidate, continue their drug trafficking operations and recruit young boys who want to make some money, now with the added appeal of being "resistance fighters".
The only way the US could defeat the Cartels is by launching straight up Stalinist purges with summary executions, mass killings and massive population transfers. Or the easier option: destroy the demand. Make drug addiction a crime, none of this "its an illness" pussy shit.
I am not opposed to this at all because the west could grow some balls again already but America doesnt have it in it right now.
 
It does benefit Mexicans but I saw this strange comment by someone on a left leaning subreddit that claimed if the U.S went to war with the cartels that Mexicans in the U.S would start rioting and burning down cities. I could understand if it was members of the cartels who did that, but why the hell would the average mexican american riot because Trump wanted to get rid of the reason you fled the country? Unless a majority of Mexicans support the cartels, there's no reason to burn down a city. Hell, the average Mexican would probably go "Sign me up Trump" and want to help out.
this, the current President of El Salvador is extremely popular because he treats gang members with no mercy, they dont even get mattresses when they go to Prison, expecting a TradCath Mexican to shed a tear over some retarded gangsters that smuggled drugs and killed innocents is preposterous and reeks of Redditor
Elaborating on the previous post, here's the dumb bitch bishop being a faggot about muh fags and muh illegals n' sheeeit.

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Episcopals will be reeducated, they are not a real religion.

edit: someone has the live reaction of Trump to the dumb bitch's plea, rolling his eyes and looking annoyed at the 50 second mark. She's now on the list hopefully.
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was this seriously the only option ? they should have considered the Catholic Church instead.
 
Trump went to Church!

According to livestream comments, very disrespectful to Mister President, one of the preachers anyway.

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Now I'm pretty sure it was this woman, who injected her sermon with words not found in the bible.
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She strikes me as a theater kid, so it was probably her. I'm giving her segment a little listen, and it was definitely her.

Also there was an... I think an Indian Christian preacher? Sikh?
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It wouldn't even be militias. If any sort of terrorist attack occurred say, such as the cartel bombing a hospital or assassinating a politician or whatever - You know what would happen? Instant war with Mexico and shoving that jew-spic bitch into a toilet. 9/11 fevor would look like nothing in comparison.
Exactly. And to act like the militias wouldn't come into play is silly. "Brown people across the planet attack us? Fuck em, we need to mobilize all the planes and jets and ships and military. Guess I need a passport, and some money for a ticket, and...."
"Brown people across the border attack us? Well, fuck em. Boys, load everything up in the truck, we got a 15 hour drive ahead of us."
 
Elaborating on the previous post, here's the dumb bitch bishop being a faggot about muh fags and muh illegals n' sheeeit.

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Holy fuck, she had an Osbourne moment at :50 in the second video outright saying illegals are slave labor.

At a SERVICE.

She genuinely brought up all that rainbow bullshit.

At a SERVICE.
 
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What do you think is the proper way to deal with the cartels @COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST
I envision a Trail of Tears leading directly into an Auschwitz the size of Disney World.

I'm not kidding when I say the only real solution to drug cartels is to reduce the hispanic population by about 95%, because anything less would leave stragglers who flee and regain their footing elsewhere. Mussolini's Italy made the mistake of not executing every single living person associated with the mafia, and this exact thing happened (they fled to America.)
 
Civilian hostages.
i mean that's never stopped the president from drone striking brown people in the past, why would it stop them now? also, let's not overlook the absolutely monstrous special forces that the US employs for on-ground operations like hostage rescue. if you aren't familiar, i highly suggest checking out a few stories about it. it's very entertaining.

the cartels and mexican government don't seem to care much about american hostages, so i don't see why we should care about mexico's hostages. we're not trying to curry the favor of the mexican people, we're trying to eliminate the cartels. it's their government's job, but now that their government has become embedded into the cartels, we'll simply have to do it.

we didn't want war, but we didn't start it.
 
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