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They should really read up on the violence that cartels do then and the communities they ruined - Or better yet, just move to Mexico, complain about ecstasy prices at some shit club, and then get beheaded so I don't have to see their insanely gay tweets and Reddit posts anymore.
there are two stories I want these reddit fags to read.

The first one is them smuggling people into houston inside a cargo truck, but iirc something happened to the engine, so they barricaded the door and they fled, they never told anyone, those poor fucking people were cooked alive in a hot container in the hot texas summer, by the time they were found, the officers were gagging and horrified at what they found.

the second one is more recent where cartel members kidnapped people from a bus, iirc 122 people, then made them fight in gladiator type fights with sledgehammers, the women were raped and murdered, and the men forced to fight and murder each other.

they are sub human garbage who arent doing this for food, they are sadists, and they love doing this.

Kill all of them, Im mexican, I want them dead, I want to stop worrying about my friends in mexico, I want them to stop coming to houston and harming people.
 
Right but since your solution is not going to happen are you saying nothing should be done and the status quo should be kept or what? You've been saying how if we provoke the cartels then we will shoot ourselves in the foot due to their inevitable retaliation which, in my opinion, is retarded.
I didn't think Trump would take clever measures to make working here less appealing to India, either, but that happened. All I can do is be honest with the information I have and whatever meager critical thinking skills I've been blessed with. But if we do decide to make the war on drugs a hot one, just anticipate narco terrorism and the reality that we'll probably have to stack spics like buffalo skulls. Import the third world, become the third world, complete with the way they handle conflict.
 
I also believe that would essentially boil down to a race war
Sounds good to me, make this country 100% White again. (Assuming you give the Irish the benefit of the doubt, and Italians too.)
All it would take for Trump's war with cartels to become unpopular is a lot of domestic bombing from people who are indistinguishable from kitchen prep, gardeners, construction workers and pretty much every blue collar contractor job.
Sounds like a good reason to deport them all first, good idea. It'll also give the troops some experience in making beaners into refried slop piles, for when they push into Mexico proper.
The only way the US could defeat the Cartels is by launching straight up Stalinist purges with summary executions, mass killings and massive population transfers.
Yeah, total beaner death, sure. It'll be good practice for the liberation of Europe from the subhumans there.
I'm not kidding when I say the only real solution to drug cartels is to reduce the hispanic population by about 95%
I agree, but bring it up to 100%.
 
It does benefit Mexicans but I saw this strange comment by someone on a left leaning subreddit that claimed if the U.S went to war with the cartels that Mexicans in the U.S would start rioting and burning down cities. I could understand if it was members of the cartels who did that, but why the hell would the average mexican american riot because Trump wanted to get rid of the reason you fled the country? Unless a majority of Mexicans support the cartels, there's no reason to burn down a city because Trump declared war on the cartels and not Mexico itself. Hell, the average Mexican would probably go "Sign me up Trump" and want to help out.
Fun fact. The unspoken justification behind the Japanese interment camps of WW2 was the Niihau incident.

In the Niihau incident a Japanese airman who participated in the attack on Pearl Harbor crash landed on Niihau. The Niihau hawiians didn't know about the attack so they treated the airman like any guest; there were two Japanese Americans living on the island so they had them help interpret and put him up for the evening until they could reach the mainland and get him help. That night they found out, confronted him, and agreed to leave him with the Japanese Americans but posted guards.

So the airman tells the Japanese Americans about Pearl Harbor and how Japan is now at war with America. They immediately turn traitor, help him attempt to destroy his plane and papers so he can vanish into America or get on the next boat out of dodge, taking two hostages, who overpower the Japanese American that was guarding them and kill the Airman, and the other Japanese American traitor commits suicide.

It took him one discussion with the Japanese Americans that were integrated and living in America to get them to immediately turn traitor.

If a bunch of illegals and legals start cheering on and helping the cartels commit domestic terrorist attacks, no amount of blubbering fat fuck brown women at the border demanding we give up rule of law and shit is going to stop what's coming.
 
Not trying to derail the thread but I'd argue Germany, Japan, and Israel only worked because those countries had native populations who already had a high average intelligence. Germany and Japan in particular already knew how to build and maintain a high-trust society, having done it themselves for centuries before WW2. And Israel didn't have that history, but had/has America covering for all their shortcomings.

Latin American nation building isn't impossible but you'd basically have to raise the average intelligence and also create a high-trust culture, both are a lot easier said than done.
I don't disagree! The Argentinians had a pretty storied history prior to the Peronists.
 
Is that... Leon Kennedy?
"Just terrible, terrible what happened to Raccoon City-I said, I told them. Greatest city on Earth, but that Umbrella- those guys are not so good, you gotta get em out. I told em, you gotta get em out. I have a job needs doing, greatest job. Utmost secrecy. Leon, you're handsome, athletic, very good-not as good as me, but very good. One of the best. How do you feel about the Mexicans?"
"Well sir, I actually just got back from Spain, I think I killed thousands there."
"They-Spain that, they speak Spanish there? Close enough. I need you, Leon, America needs you, we- greatest job in history, very important, very secret."
 
Kek. JD Vance became his children in that photo. He was probably going to ask someone if they had an iPad around.
"The spoilers for the new magic set start today and i have to listen to this bullshit. At least the Faggot shit in magic comes with new cards"
 
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I wasn't sold on this whole cartel idea but the people arguing against it are making a solid case for cartels being labelled terrorists.

What these people don't understand about the cartels is these aren't ideological fanatics. These are people who want to get rich and live the good life, which they currently can. They live openly in palaces in Mexico, because nobody dares to touch them. A MOAB turning a $50m estate into rubble and previously untouchable leadership into red mist will change that calculus fast. Nobody's going to hole up in the mountains for 20 years and live like it's 500 BC because they're just that fanatically committed the cause of smuggling fentanyl. If being the leader of a cartel means you have to live in a cave or eat a JDAM, a whole lot more Mexican boys will be looking for honest work.
 
This also isn't getting into how China (who already uses Mexico to conduct their own opium war on the USA) and Russia (who would love nothing more than for the USA to eat shit and die because of Ukraine) would quietly slip cartels military-grade equipment under the table.
China yes; Russia is already not supporting allies in its own backyard such as Armenia due to being bogged down in Ukraine. And I don't think they'd sacrifice that much to fuck with the US on the grounds that we're supplying Ukraine when they'd still have to deal with EU nations doing so.

Honestly they're a good lesson for us when you imagine destabilizing Mexico and committing to a military presence there; anyone who hates us and isn't in any such local conflicts will have a great opportunity to fuck with us. Maybe it's worth it, but you can't only factor in the Mexican state and cartels, there are other powers that will make themselves relevant if they can.
 
Take them out now, with prejudice, and save millions of lives.
there is no taking them out unless we decimate the populace. I've read allegations that some self defense militias have replaced the defeated narcos in the area as the new boss. and then there's all the corruption in the federal government that lets the cartels thrive in the first place. id rather we close and militarize the border than get into a race war.
 
Wait, this is at the national prayer service that Trump himself is attending? Jesus Christ, that should be blasphemy. Whatever ever happened to separating church and state?
The same entryism, corruption, and general marxist faggotry they've been doing in every other aspect of American culture, they've done to churches. This is year ~55 of a full blown Marxist subversion plot in America that got activated around 2014.
 
I didn't think Trump would take clever measures to make working here less appealing to India, either, but that happened. All I can do is be honest with the information I have and whatever meager critical thinking skills I've been blessed with. But if we do decide to make the war on drugs a hot one, just anticipate narco terrorism and the reality that we'll probably have to stack spics like buffalo skulls. Import the third world, become the third world, complete with the way they handle conflict.
I mean no war has been declared, the cartels are considered terrorist organizations now. There are actual, traditional terrorist organizations out there who have been in that category for decades now and we're not killing them. We're spying on them and able to kill them without congressional approval if we want and it also makes it legal and trivial to spy on them domestically and abroad.
 
I cant stop laughing at that thing basically saying we need to protect our slave labor class when talking about the illegals. Just a wild and deranged speech.
America voted so these barely alive slave boomers would stop tounge-lashing us from their ill-appointed positions of power. Look at this shrivelled wench. I hope they keep their precious slaves so a decade later they're in the elder home and can be fed disgusting cold slop by fat hatians and ignored by spics scrolling instagram and feel the pain of their youth
 
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Let's say Trump follows through and hits the cartels harder than they've ever been hit before. Now said cartel has decided to commit multiple terrorist attacks on US soil that result in the deaths of civilians, damage to infrastructure etc. What do you think happens next?
A full-scale military invasion of Mexico. Trump has already talked about taking Canada, I bet you he wants to expand southward as well.

It's literally the 9/11 playbook, except instead of a historically unconquerable mountain range full of psychotic goatfuckers, it's a failed state that's right next door, plump and ripe for the taking.

Even if it doesn't go that far, it's going to be so satisfying to see US soldiers actually defending the US border and fighting pieces of shit who fully deserve it. Rock and Roll!
 
there is no taking them out unless we decimate the populace. I've read allegations that some self defense militias have replaced the defeated narcos in the area as the new boss. and then there's all the corruption in the federal government that lets the cartels thrive in the first place. id rather we close and militarize the border than get into a race war.
maybe Im biased being tejano, but I have more love for my state than I do mexico.

But I rather avoid doing something like that, its optimistic, but I rather just end the cartels and try to minimize civilian casualties
 
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