Most people grow out of the "I WANT" phase when they're 6yo
Yeah, because it’s
totally more mature to just accept whatever slop politicians give you and to never make demands of your betters. Good luck living on your knees.
He chose not do because he thought -- was probably promised -- they would get a fair and speedy trial, probably some fines for the unofficial tour, and be out in a few weeks.
If your argument relies this much on hypotheticals, it might be shit. Why would Trump make that assumption? Because it allows you to make excuses for him?
The facts are that, after the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, many of the individuals involved were charged with serious federal crimes, including
unlawful entry,
destruction of property,
seditious conspiracy, and
assaulting law enforcement officers. These were not typically the kind of charges that would lead to quick or minor resolutions. In fact, some of the charges, like
seditious conspiracy, carry severe penalties. Furthermore, the press was already describing this event as some insane riot, not a minor trespassing issue.
So according to your
hypothetical, Trump didn’t know how severe the consequences would be for his followers. According to you, Trump is too much of a dumb baby to understand that these were not mere trespassing charges and that the Democrats were going to deep-fry these people. So, if your excuses were actually true and Trump was oblivious to the danger his supporters were in, it’s because he’s too stupid to be president. Great argument, bro. Try calling me a newfag some more, see if it makes reality conform to your feelings.
Instead they sat and rotted in solitary for 4 years after he left, because the left in America has entered early stage Communist shitbag syndrome. Which he could not have known.
Except he could have because the press already described this as a riot and the protesters were facing extremely serious charges. A significant number of them were facing charges that were
far from minor. The charges were serious, including
conspiracy,
assaulting federal officers, and
interfering with a congressional proceeding. These weren’t charges that would be easily resolved with fines or short sentences. So again, either you’re wrong about this or Trump is a retard. Those are your two options. I’m gonna go with the former.
But let’s say that they were facing minimal charges - wouldn’t that make it
easier for him to pardon them before January 20th, since pardoning minor crimes is less politically gauché than pardoning major ones? Notice how all your excuses for Trump contradict each other.
Remember, a major failing of Trump 2014 up until 1.05 seconds after someone shot his fucking ear was an almost adorably comical belief that the left would be acting in good faith as gentlemen.
Were you not paying attention? Trump always knew the Democrats were cunts, hence calling Hillary “crooked” - there’s nothing gentlemanly about a corrupt female politician.
And, of course, the following quotes:
President Donald Trump said:
The radical left is trying to tear down everything we hold dear and destroy our great country. They want to turn America into a socialist nation.
Source: a July 2020 rally in Georgia.
Yeah, people consider those trying to destroy their nation to be real “gentlemanly”,
genius.
President Donald Trump said:
The radical left is trying to erase our history, and they’re trying to erase our values. They’re trying to tear down statues, they’re trying to get rid of our national anthem. They want to cancel everything that makes America great.
Source: June 2020 campaign rally.
Again, wow, he
clearly thinks the left are gentlemanly and not fundamentally evil or anti-American. Totally, bro.
President Donald Trump said:
What they want is a Marxist revolution. They want to take down the American system, and they want to replace it with something that's never going to work.
Source: July 2020
The thing about Marxism is that it’s a stateless form of government. You know, the sort of government law-abiding gentleman types love
oh so much.
President Donald Trump said:
The Democrat Party is corrupt, radical, and far-left. They will stop at nothing to take away your freedoms. You are my true family, and I will protect you from the radical left.
Source: December 2019, after the first impeachment.
Are you getting the fucking point yet? Your characterization of pre-Pennsylvania-murder-attempt Trump as oblivious to the dangers of the Democrats is clearly and demonstrably
wrong. Here’s some more examples of Trump saying things that directly contradict you, including this quote:
They’re trying to nullify the ballots of tens of millions of people. That’s what they’re trying to do. They want to take over your government, and they’re going to make it impossible for you to have a Republican.
Source: February 2020, after his impeachment trial acquittal.
Which, as you can see, foreshadows what would happen on January 6th, in complete opposition to your point that Trump was some naïve flower.
And some more:
Some of these Democrat governors are not treating their states fairly. It’s political. They’re doing this to make me look bad.
Source: April 2020.
Because letting people get sick and die OR unconstitutionally suppressing their civil liberties to make their political opponent look bad is just so
gentlemanly. I could go on, but I think I demonstrated that you’re either a liar or don’t remember history.
I genuinely think the reason the RINOs didn't threaten him this time -- unless they did and he just doesn't care now -- is that 4 years of solitary with no trial is more than even they expected the left to do to their political enemies.
Citation: your asshole.
Sometimes you have to make compromises, even with your principles. Sometimes you have to make deals, even if you don't like them
Yeah, making compromises with the lives of your most ardent supporters sure is an understandable one.
Sure.
I'm sorry the perfect golden Trump that exists only in your head didn't fall on his sword and end his political career to uphold the ethical masterwork that exists only in your imagination.
Nice strawman argument. I never said he should do any of those things. I said he could have pardoned them, he didn’t, and that he shouldn’t be regarded as a hero for fulfilling his obligations to these people four years too late. Try misrepresenting my argument some more, it’s the only way you’ll manage to get the jump on me.
Notice how I’ve actually been quoting Trump while you’ve been spinning hypotheticals and throwing words like “think” and “probably” around. But
I’m the one not living in the real world. Sure, pal.
Your anger should be directed towards the communist shitbags that did it, not the man who had no way of knowing the faggots would hold them without trial in solitary confinement 23x7 for years out of spite and hate.
Nah, I’m going to continue to criticize both Trump and the Democrats because I’m not some retard who thinks in black-and-white.
But you're a purple poster so I don't expect too much
You should be
embarrassed that a newfag like me is schooling you
this hard.
Ah.
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Now I get it. You not only need a burger suit,
you need one that glows in the dark.
Yeah, because feds love when citizens demand legal, nonviolent solutions to problems. Do you just use insults without knowing what they mean? Like when you said Trump considered the Democrats to be “gentlemanly”? Again, notice how much you have to rely on
ad hominems whereas I do not. It’s because I can substantiate my claims and you can’t.
1500 hundred of his most retarded supporters who fell for a Fed honeypot to give the Uniparty the exact bait needed to remove the threat of Trump forever. Pardoning them was the trap, and we'd have Kamala Harris or Nikki Haley in Office now if he had.
Oh wow,
another hypothetical. This time involving unsubstantiated conspiracy theories like that this was a honey pot.
In reality, if Trump had pardoned the individuals involved in the January 6th riot before leaving office on January 20, 2021, it likely
would have been politically controversial and fueled further outrage. However, it is unclear if such a pardon would have significantly impacted Trump’s legal exposure or the political landscape in the way you’re suggesting. What’s the actual legal mechanism you’re saying they would have got him on? Oh, you don’t have one? How convenient for you and your baseless speculation.
As for whether Trump would have been legally culpable had he pardoned the January 6th protesters… no. It’s unlikely that pardoning them would have created additional legal exposure for him. A pardon essentially forgives the federal crime committed but does not necessarily imply that the pardoned individual was innocent or that the actions leading to the crimes were justified. Pardoning people involved in the Capitol breach wouldn't have directly impacted Trump's legal liability related to incitement or other actions connected to the January 6th event. Nice try, though.
Oh. So you're a beaner, or worse, a Euro. We need a mega crystal for your faggotry.
Considering how much you’re slurping on Trump’s bag, I think
you’re the real pink triangle here, friendo.
