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[piombo]

TF2 Classic is getting an update on January 24th

https://tf2classic.com/double_down/day1

and it's already dogshit since it's vip-centric, let's turn payload race into a more miserable A/D where if your (human) cart dies your progress gets reset!


e: oh yeah, and the weapons were already leaked due to incompetence, to quote the posts from tf2g

Nice short, unfortunately most of the stuff in the short had been spoiled already thanks to the 2.2 closed beta source code leak that appeared on this thread months ago (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YBU7PSaagcEfynYUOc3u-ZhInD9_dDo0/view?usp=drivesdk)

To summarize what was already known thanks to internal "TF_WEAPON_" strings in the code:
> Cyclops wasn't really that known as being future content. It was originally in TF2C back in 2015 but was eventually removed after a while, I believe when they removed Deathmatch from TF2C. Internal weapon strings in the code revealed it was in a block of weapon strings for internal beta testing.
> The Medic weapon seen briefly in blueprint form may be the previously-shown heal grenade launcher that was shown off during TF2C's Kritzkast interview. There was an internal weapon string called PILLSTREAK which may be this item.
> The Anchor has been well known for a long time. Was shown off during the Kritzkast interview.
> The new Civilian cane is new to me. Didn't see it in the source code leak anywhere.

There may be more coming. I seem to recall seeing a weapon string for a new knife in the source code. Don't quote me on that though.

Had to do some archive digging. Turns out it was that TF2 cut content guy who created TF2C who posted the leak and the strings I read:

> "TF_WEAPON_PILLSTREAK",
> "TF_WEAPON_HEALLAUNCHER",
> "TF_WEAPON_ANCHOR",
> "TF_WEAPON_CYCLOPS",
> "TF_WEAPON_LEAPKNIFE",

So the Pillstreak and Heal Launcher are two separate things. There's apparently a Leap Knife that we may see in the next few days.

second e: thanks to bluecandles pointing it out soylentlight had an hand in making this update

 

[Conan]

Tf2 classic where we reject the more dubious balance changes and weapons of valve and go back to good ol tf2 circa 2009.

But with our own shitty weapons and balance changes!!!!!

 

[Eternal Spirit of Light]

Wanted to find out the age of the guy so...

Thanks for digging.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

TF2 Youtuber Gregfrags, popular (not very) for being a contrarian faggot, is now a femboy faggot.
Leaked Discord DMs:
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Oh and he's also a pedophile, but that should have been obvious by now
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(This is incredibly low quality, I know, but it's still pretty funny. Might update later if I get more info)

TL;DR for those who couldn't be bothered to read

Emporium faggots are retarded and their friends continue to poke fun at people who rightfully criticize the Emporium for being a monopoly and shitstain on the TF2 community.
Dewill still continues to tease the possibility of releasing a video talking about the Emporium, Zesty Jesus and MYM and might make more schitzo Korean videos
Soylarlight is making another 2hr long pro competitive video and what he calls a 'truthnvke' about MYM which will be at the end of the compie segment.

They could make a million 5-hour-long videos shilling the competitive scene until the day they shut down the servers but it still will never change the fact that they have and always will represent a measly 2-5% of the entire player base. One that has made it clear for over ten years to not care one iota about whatever leagues or competitions they have created within what is essentially a custom game mode on par with x10 servers or Saxton Hale in terms of gameplay deviation. Whatever "nuke" is being cooked up by this rootless carpetbagger will ultimately have the power of a wet party popper because I can't conceivably think of a cope that would justify their astroturfed sideshow as anything more than an annoying curiosity. One that has gained an unwarranted level of self-importance, resulting in them demanding sweeping changes so that THEY can have their perfect autism simulator at the cost of everybody else who enjoys the game as it was boxed.

"We have grown since the 2000s from 100 losers to 500 losers!" He may say as if it'll get Valve to give them the DOTA 2 treatment.

"Jill wasn't at fault because blah blah everybody was doing the same thing anyways!" Yeah and everybody is miserable trying to navigate other matchmaking systems. The FPS genre is a joke now.

"Everybody who hates competitive is just dogmatic and evil! Me against the Chuds!" The sad fact is that everybody before MYM was sort of sympathetic to you freaks or at least left each other alone. There was no schism between the two communities because one didn't decide to embark on a holy gamer crusade to fuck with basic functionalities until then. Imagine if an extremely autistic group of Chess pros started influencing the FIDE and managed to get them to, I dunno, remove knights from the game because the version they played didn't have them. Now everybody else has to play your gimped version. That would probably get people upset, no?

Whatever they don't care no matter how much evidence is in favor of their pet projects having negative effects on this game.

Comp Faggots: "Am I so out of touch? No, it is the casuals who are wrong."

They will take this mentality to their graves or at least until they get de-platformed for being exposed as a pedo, scammer, groomer, etc, then another will take their place with an even lower projected lifespan. The Vicious Cycle of the TF2 Community.

 

[piombo]

Tf2 classic where we reject the more dubious balance changes and weapons of valve and go back to good ol tf2 circa 2009.

But with our own shitty weapons and balance changes!!!!!

they get only worse the more they express themselves, AoE medigun with AoE stock uber

 

[Shoresy]

they get only worse the more they express themselves, AoE medigun with AoE stock uber
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You beat me to posting this by literal seconds lol. I was about to point out that your previous message with the source code leak stuff seems to be being proven true as we speak. I can safely assume this would be "TF_WEAPON_HEALLAUNCHER".

We are proving the blogpost correct:

Day 2 of The Double Down Update is here! Today, the Jenkins–Jenkins blood feud expands onto another new made-in-house map (and onto the pages of another dubious magazine). Also, a weapon teased in the trailer short is ready to be scrutinized, blindly theory-crafted about, and declared to be unbalanced slop before anyone has even gotten to use it.

 

[piombo]

We are proving the blogpost correct

their fucking problem if they're a bunch of retards that want to reinvent the wheel, only the vaultf4 trannies want le super duper quirky weapons that make shit aids to play, anyone with a brain doesn't really.

 

[Conan]

they get only worse the more they express themselves, AoE medigun with AoE stock uber
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Jesus Christ.
Yes hello I'd like last point defenses to be even more impenetrable.

Y'know I at least understood the old original additions. 4 team? Sure, very quakey. civilian? Ok an interesting gimmick. Nail gun? Wow awesome, what a neat beta inspired option. Like all the ideas that sort of worked were valve's.

Every single one of their own discord brewed decisions has been just so utterly cancerous and stupid.

Wasn't the entire fucking point to eschew valves post engineer update additions in order to have a more stripped down and focused game? And when I bring this up they point to the utterly dead 2007 mode servers, as if there's no room in between 2007 and trannybrew 2022.

Tf2c was a breath of fresh air when it only focused on tf2 plus some classic weapon unlocks from the class updates.

 

[Shoresy]

I went looking for that "kritzkast interview" that piombo mentioned in the 4chan quotes, where they showed off things like the anchor and the heal launcher. Couldn't find it at first. As it turns out, it was a TF2Maps livestream from September 2023 that they did, where they showed early forms of this new stuff off. They even play the new VIPR 2Bridge map in this.

So this goes to show that VIPR and all this new stuff has been in the works since at least September 2023. They've had a year and some change to not make slop, and they've made slop.

E: i think this is what the general size of the Rejuvenator's heal is, circa Sept 2023. Maybe they've modified it in the year and change since, who knows:

 

[piombo]

They've had a year and some change to not make slop, and they've made slop.

they made worse than slop, it has aoe healing, the aoe uber is ranged and the heal overheals, this shit truly does reek of actual brain damage

 

[Stone Enjoyer]

So this goes to show that VIPR and all this new stuff has been in the works since at least September 2023. They've had a year and some change to not make slop, and they've made slop.

Time hardly makes a difference if all they do is spend time in the same echo chamber which approves their shit ideas

 

[Shoresy]

Crosspost from TF2 thread

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[soy woah jaque]

Y'know I at least understood the old original additions. 4 team? Sure, very quakey. civilian? Ok an interesting gimmick. Nail gun? Wow awesome, what a neat beta inspired option. Like all the ideas that sort of worked were valve's.

Once they gave the heavy a long range explosive minigun and the pyro a force-a-nature and a scythe, it was only a matter of time.

Custom weapon servers are already a thing, they should have kept the base game as vanilla as possible (the whole point of the mod)

 

[Shoresy]

3rd day of the new TF2C update dropped. Just the Cyclops and the Anchor. No leap knife or paintball rifle. Gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the leap knife and paintball rifle were just internal tests for something. They also added two new Domination maps, and added some tweaks to how Domination works:

Spoiler: text

Domination mode has long suffered from some critical flaws: for one, all things being equal, a losing team has so little hope of catching up to the winning team that they usually don't bother trying. For another, even if an inspiring sports-movie recovery does occur, the comeback kids have to hold all points for several entire minutes just to consolidate the win. Rather than write this off as "mad because bad", which is always tempting, we've added some new mechanics to Domination.

1. As the point gap between the teams gets wider, the losing team's respawn time gets shorter. This keeps matches tense even when they're not close, and makes spontaneous comebacks and "pub pushes" more likely to happen.

2. If the losing team mounts a massive recovery and captures every single point, their score rapidly increases, until they're more or less tied with the other team. Even a team trailing by 99 points will be competitive again if they achieve Total Domination.

Some would say "too little, too late", but people are going to be voting for Railway and Sawtooth non-stop for the next 2 months anyway, so I think you'll find it in your heart to appreciate that we made the mode more fun.

 

[piombo]

3rd day of the new TF2C update dropped. Just the Cyclops and the Anchor. No leap knife or paintball rifle. Gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the leap knife and paintball rifle were just internal tests for something. They also added two new Domination maps, and added some tweaks to how Domination works:

this day is very inoffensive, the cyclo is a grief gun at worst and the anchor is not even a funny meme weapon, nothing to comment on

e: misread, the cyclo doesn't grief it just behaves like the quickbomb/short circuit for other demos, still meh since doesn't look that spammable

 

[Tye Tass]

this day is very inoffensive, the cyclo is a grief gun at worst and the anchor is not even a funny meme weapon, nothing to comment on

e: misread, the cyclo doesn't grief it just behaves like the quickbomb/short circuit for other demos, still meh since doesn't look that spammable

The Cyclops just feels flawed conceptually. It's main gimmick is to basically sticky spam with the primary but WAY slower. I don't see why would anyone use this beyond the initial experimentation. The anchor is just a Saxton Hale stomp but as a weapon.

 

[SillySherman]

Some of those new weapons feel like gimmicky versions of Live-TF2 ones (Cyclops, Heal Grenades, even the chains from last update that are a shittier KGB), and yet they won't add some classic weapons (Chargin Targe, Bonk and Buff Banner) from the 2007-2009 era. Really weird.

Also, if they are adapting stuff from 2015 TF2C, why don't they bring more original stuff than the Cyclops. You have stuff like the Deathmatch Burst Rifle that could make an intersting shotgun alternative.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

I don't get the point of calling it TF2 classic if you're going to add a bunch of shit that was never in TF2. It's more of a Diet TF2, TF2 Zero, Crystal TF2, TF2 Max, etc.

 

[BlueCandles]

Solarlight has been getting more and more active on the r/tf2c subreddit. I fear he’s been trying to parasitically attach himself into the development team and influence their decisions.

 

[soy woah jaque]

Solarlight has been getting more and more active on the r/tf2c subreddit. I fear he’s been trying to parasitically attach himself into the development team and influence their decisions.

Well the mod has been run by discord trannies for a while now, so unless he's had an influence in past update decisions, it probably won't make a difference