Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 169 9.4%

  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 389 21.7%

  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 376 21.0%

  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 855 47.8%
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Bioware Edmonton is also coincidentally no longer hiring.

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Well this doesn't bode well for Bioware. I can't think of any value left in the company other than the name. Even then they managed to destroy that. Someone at Bioware has to come up with an absolute banger of a pitch to EA to get them to cough up any money. However, I don't think they have anyone left.

Maybe Bioware will be forced to make mobile games. As penance for wasting millions of dollars in cash. I know it's unlikely though and probably it is just restructuring after a decade of failure.
 
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OutInTheRain said:
Well this doesn't bode well for Bioware. I can't think of any value left in the company other than the name. Even then they managed to destroy that. Someone at Bioware has to come up with an absolute banger of a pitch to EA to get them to cough up any money. However, I don't think they have anyone left.

Maybe Bioware will be forced to make mobile games. As penance for wasting millions of dollars in cash. I know it's unlikely though and probably it is just restructuring after a decade of failure.
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The Mass Effect and Dragon Age IPs are still very valuable.

They'll probably contract Larian or somebody for a DA game after shuttering Bioware.
 
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Jace on ice said:
The Mass Effect and Dragon Age IPs are still very valuable.
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Well yes, but actually no.
The IP themselves have value, but if its owned and ran by fucking retards it doesn't matter. Like starwars outlaws, starwars is an IMMENSE property, but it wont matter if the person making it sucks at their job, especially consistently. Because then people will say "yeah starwars was good BACK IN THE DAY," which is very different. I think this will impede hype for next mass effect.
A name with notoriety can only pull so much weight alone.
 
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Jace on ice said:
The Mass Effect and Dragon Age IPs are still very valuable.

They'll probably contract Larian or somebody for a DA game after shuttering Bioware.
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I think you're half right. Both IPs are not in a great place, and it will take a long time, with repeated successes to turn them back into what they were. However, I don't know where you go with either franchise. You would need someone passionate to tell a story in those worlds and the will to undo all the damage and build excitement.
 
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OutInTheRain said:
Well this doesn't bode well for Bioware. I can't think of any value left in the company other than the name.
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I've been having a hunch for awhile that I've been mulling on and the more I think about it, the more I think it's true.

My theory is that the writing was on the wall for Bioware since 2020. EA green lit another Dragon Age after Inquisition in 2015, meddled with it by wanting to add an online component, backpedaled scrapped that after Anthem imploded in 2018. They then restarted the game, Corona happens and the original founders leave. People like Mac Walters also leave, so the creative job goes to Corrine. This would be 2022.

EA knew they had a stinker of a game on their hands, so instead of trying to salvage it and give the dev team time to create something. They handed Dreadwolf over to a tranny who would put woke into it, sales would naturally flop and as a result, they could close down the Edmonton studio that hadn't been productive since Anthem. Veilguard's bare minimum advertising efforts speaks I think to a deliberate plan from EA to tank the studio because they don't want it around anymore. They just can't announce they're closing it and firing everyone, that's bad PR especially in the year devs are speaking at the VGAs about this. If instead a black hole of a game sucks down the last remaining dregs of talent and doesn't meet unrealistic sales targets, then now we have justification to let people go. Corrine leaving is the scalpe the suits wanted for this failure and I do think the entire studio will close soon as a result.

It just makes too much sense given EA's track record of killing studios.
 
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Rockzo said:
I've been having a hunch for awhile that I've been mulling on and the more I think about it, the more I think it's true.

My theory is that the writing was on the wall for Bioware since 2020. EA green lit another Dragon Age after Inquisition in 2015, meddled with it by wanting to add an online component, backpedaled scrapped that after Anthem imploded in 2018. They then restarted the game, Corona happens and the original founders leave. People like Mac Walters also leave, so the creative job goes to Corrine. This would be 2022.

EA knew they had a stinker of a game on their hands, so instead of trying to salvage it and give the dev team time to create something. They handed Dreadwolf over to a tranny who would put woke into it, sales would naturally flop and as a result, they could close down the Edmonton studio that hadn't been productive since Anthem. Veilguard's bare minimum advertising efforts speaks I think to a deliberate plan from EA to tank the studio because they don't want it around anymore. They just can't announce they're closing it and firing everyone, that's bad PR especially in the year devs are speaking at the VGAs about this. If instead a black hole of a game sucks down the last remaining dregs of talent and doesn't meet unrealistic sales targets, then now we have justification to let people go. Corrine leaving is the scalpe the suits wanted for this failure and I do think the entire studio will close soon as a result.

It just makes too much sense given EA's track record of killing studios.
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I think you're half right. I think the last decade of going from flop to flop caused all the productive people to jump ship. Success attracts success and productive people can be productive anywhere. I think with ME3 pissing people off with the color coded ending. With DAI scraping through as a success, but troubled development and with Anthem as a massive flop and a troubled development. Everyone with talent just bailed. So the tranny was all that was left.

EA has changed leadership since the John Riccitello days and decided to give Bioware a long leash and more accetping of failure from the studio. However, with all the economic troubles, the downsizing of the AAA space and that leash was pulled tight. EA gave Bioware an ultimatum, probably something that worked for pushing DAI out the door, and there was probably a hope it would work here. Bioware however, was fully into its tranny bubble at that point and when it met the reality of EA, the suits at EA went "oh fuck." I imagine the head of Bioware was hauled off and asked "What the hell is wrong with you?" They were then given a sales threshold, and told if they didn't meet it, layoffs and possible closure are coming.

So I don't think it was planned, I think it was the contingencies were in place for a failure(admittedly it wasn't an unexpected failure). I think on the outside chance it sold millions of copies, then execution would have been held off for another 5 years or so. However, I imagine after dealing with a studio as dysfunctional as Bioware, EA is probably happy to wash their hands of the whole pozzed mess.
 
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There's an interesting quote here. "Bioware developers have moved to other EA projects since they don't have anything else to do". Which implies that EA is shuffling developers to other studios. And that the studio isn't actively working on any new games.
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They'll probably contract Larian or somebody for a DA game after shuttering Bioware.
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Larian's not going to do it as it's unlikely they'd sell out just to make a Dragon Age game. As it would require making a game under EA's rules and EA will demand shit like adding DRM which they've said they're against doing.
 
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Mettaur said:
There's an interesting quote here. "Bioware developers have moved to other EA projects since they don't have anything else to do". Which implies that EA is shuffling developers to other studios. And that the studio isn't actively working on any new games.
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That tells me that nothing is in the works at all. ME5 is just running ideas up the flag pole and seeing who salutes. Pre-production could mean anything, and most likely means securing funding. EA is probably unwilling to shoulder the full cost after a decade of failure from Bioware. On top of that with the devs being shuffled to other projects, or at least the ones not fired. It sounds like Bioware is being put on ice.

So right now, we have a studio with an idea for an idea. Its dev team is being broken up. So if an idea for ME5 gets accepted, it will most likely be with an almost completely new dev team. As I doubt anyone who gets shuffled out will be willing to return. So ME5 is facing a massive uphill battle.
 
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There's an interesting quote here. "Bioware developers have moved to other EA projects since they don't have anything else to do". Which implies that EA is shuffling developers to other studios. And that the studio isn't actively working on any new games.

Larian's not going to do it as it's unlikely they'd sell out just to make a Dragon Age game. As it would require making a game under EA's rules and EA will demand shit like adding DRM which they've said they're against doing.
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I like the implication that there is no actual development on Mass Effect 5 and the teasers they showed were just random things thrown at the wall to get attention
 
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OutInTheRain said:
Someone at Bioware has to come up with an absolute banger of a pitch to EA to get them to cough up any money.
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Realistically though, what could this be? Bioware have successfully killed the hype for all their reputable IPs and with their track record and the current state of the AAA industry as a whole there is not a chance in hell EA would let them roll the dice on a brand new franchise.
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The sad thing is the people being laid off are almost certainly QA debuggers and 3D modelers shit like that.
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The good thing is jobs like that carry the broadest skillset so those people can probably walk into new positions elsewhere with little downtime. They're not going to be nearly as marred by the stench of Bioware as the people directly responsible for tanking all their franchises.
 
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