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Before long, they're gonna be down to "Well, only Kiev is strategically important!"
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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Anasûrimbor Kellhus
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trump doesn't go for "immediately getting what he wants" he makes deals its his whole thing. Z man, like Bibi, is likely on the outs with trump for the many slights made against trump, most importantly zman's part in the impeachment. Trump understands and probably kinda likes putin compared to that coke addled goblin. I suspect we'll see a deal where Z man is fucked over, putin gets an off ramp in ukraine (and some territory at this point), and the disloyal MIC that fucked over trump in term one doesn't get anything it wants. America as a whole benefits from no longer having to pay for this mess and also likely american corpos will rebuild western ukraine
I think people are too quick to buy into what others say about trump, and to be fair his bombastic personality and style don't help with that, but at the end of the day he's reasonable. Even the latest truth post this is just him talking big so he can a more reasonable thing he wants, he does it every time. Trump loses a lot of goodwill he can't do without going neocon on russia.
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Damn!
Lets ignore the usual Trump bombastic statements (like the stund about the “failing Russian economy”).
This post is very interesting and seems to indicate that he, at least right now, is listening to people who know something about Russia.
Note the “I love the Russian people”, which we almost never hear from Western pols, and especially the WW2 references.
Russians love to hear this kind of stuff, since WW2 was their finest hour and almost every Russian lost someone.
That’s at least as far as I am concerned, reason for some cautious optimism. Yes, we also get the vague sanction threat, but keep in mind that Trump has to give the R neocons SOMETHING, and has to walk a fine line.
Ending the war right now, isn’t going to be particularly tempting for Russia, but if negotiations can include a new security architectur, maybe also involving the Chinese, something could definitely be worked out.
(For example: Four oblasts to Russia, no NATO membership, but Ukraines new borders guaranteed by China. Maybe Indian peacekeepers? Zelensky will of course never agree, but he’s increasingly becoming irrelevant along with the eurocucks.)
Putin called Trump courageous and a brave man.
That will go a long way with big Don. Notice how no European leaders said anything similar, since they’re all retards and Putin isn’t.
Putin of course is a patriot looking out for his country’s interests. That’s something a boomer like Trump respects, while he otoh probably rolls his eyes at eurocuck leaders talking about “our shared values”.
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This sounds eerily similar to the overtures toward North Korea. That ended with the collapsed summit at Hanoi and North Korea firmly in the Russo-Chinese orbit.
Anasûrimbor Kellhus
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yeah its why he can get along with all the "bad people" and get them to do things largely mutually beneficial. He understands these leaders have views and things they need and knows what buttons to push to make sure everyone comes away happy. Only trump can go to pyongyang.
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What the message Trump is saying is grab as much as you want, I get the continue sanctions shit but I need better certainty or confirmation about the blocking foreign aid executive order. Edit: to add more humor Trump doesn't say how soon Russia has to make the deal.
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At some point there will be more Ukrainians living in Warsaw or Berlin than in Ukrainian cities. Might as well make them strategically important.
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They treated the berlin wall wrong. Instead of tearing it down, they should have extemded it to include ALL of berlin.
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Holy shit, they're counting FPV drones striking a tank as a "lost UAV"
Fucking Ukrainians
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The part that bothers me is the "and various other participating countries", aka European vassal states. The US does whatever it wants, I don't care, but stop controlling our foreign policy.
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*Lwów
Actually Lemburg but no way Poles, Austrians or Hungarians want it back with the hohols that come with it. Exterminating the Banderites was a lot of work last time
I did a quick search but I don't see it. I did find a clip of Zelensky obviously coked out of his mind demanding US boots on the ground, in the Eastern front, on the front line, to fight Russia.
From Bloomberg:
The United States should send its peacekeepers to Ukraine, - Zelensky
“This cannot happen without the USA. Even if some European friends think that it can be, no, it cannot be. No one will take risks without the United States,” Zelensky said in an interview with Bloomberg.Yesterday he said that at least 200,000 Western peacekeepers will be needed to guarantee security after the war in Ukraine.It was previously reported that Trump is against sending American peacekeepers to Ukraine.
Just hohol things:
The war has to end, at the very least, if only to save the hohols from themselves.
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he Can’t even get the Soviet WW2 casualties right.
Welp, time for Slovakia and Hungary to join BRICS. Maybe they could serve as logistical hubs or something.
Or invest heavily in fabrication tech. Paprika flavored chips FTW!
Not only that. They included the Kilo class sub they managed to hit in a dry-dock. I bet the vehicle losses include civilian cars destroyed in Donetsk..
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MrJokerRager
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That is like World War era numbers that the hohols are making up.
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Was the day 1 peace deal with Russia between Russia and the USA? So Trump is saying that the US will not be involved with Ukraine anymore, and any US citizens there will not be acknowledged as being there legally on behalf of the government?
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Juicy liberashka/Russian spy gossip for the Russia enjoyers:
Machine translation
Zhanna Nemtsova spoke about her relationship with Pablo Gonzalez — a Russian spy who posed as a Spanish journalist Six months ago, he was exchanged for Vladimir Kara-Murza.
Zhanna Nemtsova, co-founder of the Boris Nemtsov Foundation and daughter of a politician, gave an interview to journalist Katerina Gordeeva. In it, Nemtsova told about her acquaintance with Pablo Gonzalez (aka Pavel Rubtsov), a Russian spy who, under the guise of a Spanish journalist, followed members of the Russian opposition in Europe; in early 2022, he was detained in Poland, and in the summer of 2024, he returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange.
Who is Pablo Gonzalez (Pavel Rubtsov)?
He was born in the USSR. His mother, Maria Elena Gonzalez, was the granddaughter of a Spaniard who was taken from the country during the Civil War. She married the Soviet scientist Alexey Rubtsov. They named their son Paul. Later, a divorce followed, and Maria Elena and her nine-year-old son returned to their historical homeland, the Basque Country, where she changed his name to Pablo Gonzalez Yague.
In 2003, when he was 21 years old, Gonzalez received a Russian passport. But in the Russian opposition, he was known only as a Spaniard who studied Russian at the University of Barcelona. Gonzalez pretended to be a war correspondent for the Basque newspaper Gara and actually traveled to the Donbass, South Ossetia, the annexed Crimea, Transdniestria and Nagorno-Karabakh. He was considered an experienced military officer and tried to maintain friendly relations with Russian journalists and politicians in Europe.
On February 28, 2022, Gonzalez was detained in Poland near the border with Ukraine, suspected of spying for Russia. Amnesty International and Reporters Without Borders came out in support of him at the time. But in 2023, the Agency revealed that Gonzalez was indeed a spy, and that through his friendship with Zhanna Nemtsova, he had infiltrated her entourage. The investigation was based on anonymous sources, and Nemtsova declined to comment at the time.
In August 2024, Gonzalez was among the spies who returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange and shook hands with Vladimir Putin. Now he lives in Moscow.
Under the guise of a journalist, he infiltrated the Russian opposition. But he was caught by the Polish police — and now he has returned to Russia as part of an exchange Link/Archive
What did Zhanna Nemtsova say about him?
She said that she met Gonzalez in 2016 at a meeting of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. Gonzalez was accredited to PACE as a journalist and asked for an interview for the Basque newspaper Gara. Nemtsova initially refused ("It seemed pointless to me: who in the Basque Country is interested in the situation in Russia?"), but Olga Shorina, co-founder of the Nemtsov Foundation, still convinced her to answer Gonzalez's questions.
After this interview, he, like other journalists, was invited to attend events of the Nemtsov Foundation in different EU countries. He regularly visited them. Nemtsova noted that the foundation did not pay for these trips, but paid for two lectures that he gave in 2018 and 2019 at the school of journalism organized by the foundation. Nemtsova stressed that Gonzalez was invited as a lecturer, because he was known as a journalist who worked a lot in hot spots in the former Soviet Union.
Pavel Rubtsov and Zhanna Nemtsova in Kiev. 2017 year
Zhanna Nemtsova Archive
In an interview, Nemtsova said that she had a "not very tight" romantic relationship with Gonzalez, which lasted from late 2017 to 2019. At the same time, she denies that he accessed her laptop and copied her father's personal letters from there (the Agency and The Guardian wrote about this). According to Nemtsova, she lent Gonzalez a laptop when he complained that his computer was broken. But it was my father's old laptop, previously checked by the Russian Investigative Committee, and there was "nothing terrible in the email, except for endless mailings."
Nemtsova first thought that there might be something wrong with Gonzalez when her friend, who lived in Spain, said: "Pablo, stop lying, you're not a Basque, you're a pure Russian." She also found it suspicious that Gonzalez, a legally married man with three children, could afford to travel all over Europe on the salary he was supposedly paid at a small Basque newspaper. His fears were also indirectly confirmed by his political views, which he did not hide from her. "Pablo is not only a GRU agent for money, he is really an ideologically charged person. He likes the concept of a multipolar world, he is a terrible anti-Americanist, " Nemtsova explained.
According to her, at the end of their relationship with Gonzalez, she shared her suspicions about him with friends, but they were in no hurry to believe them. She wasn't sure herself.
When Gonzalez was detained, Nemtsova realized that sooner or later she would have to be interrogated. This happened in 2023. Polish investigators showed her Gonzalez's reports, which were also devoted to her. According to her, "he didn't really write anything bad about me," but in any case, this reading was "an amazing experience." After the interrogation, Nemtsova contacted the Agency and became their source for the investigation of Gonzalez. According to her, she believed that this was socially important information, but she could not speak in the media under her own name, because she gave a non-disclosure agreement to the investigation in Poland.
"It's probably unpleasant to admit some things, but how can I hide it, what other options did I have?" — No, " she said.
Pablo Gonzalez gets on a plane to Moscow during a prisoner exchange. August 1, 2024
FSB / TASS / Profimedia (he definitely got the Star Wars/libtard act down lol)
Nemtsova also said that it was she who came up with the idea to exchange Gonzalez for Vladimir Kara-Murza, an associate of Boris Nemtsov, who was serving a 25 — year sentence in Russia on charges of treason. "I had a wonderful Polish lawyer, quite famous. I suggested to him: "Let's exchange Pablo for Kara-Murza. Pablo positions himself as a journalist, Kara-Murza can also be called a journalist. Pablo is a GRU officer, probably Russia needs him, and Kara-Murza is a very respected person in the West, " she said. The lawyer gave this idea to the Polish authorities, and they-to the US authorities, and as a result, both Gonzalez and Kara-Murza were exchanged. "I do not know what role I played, but I came up with this idea," Nemtsova said.
To accusations that she and her journalism school "became Gonzalez's entry point into the Russian opposition," Nemtsova said that counterintelligence is engaged in exposing spies, and she cannot "replace the special service." When asked exactly what reasons (personal or official) Gonzalez could have entered into a relationship with her, she replied: "I, oddly enough, believe that it was of my own volition."
YouTube link from this cunt's channel didn't watch
Link/Archive In Russian, use Google or Yandex
lol. lmao, even
Zhanna Nemtsova spoke about her relationship with Pablo Gonzalez — a Russian spy who posed as a Spanish journalist Six months ago, he was exchanged for Vladimir Kara-Murza.
Zhanna Nemtsova, co-founder of the Boris Nemtsov Foundation and daughter of a politician, gave an interview to journalist Katerina Gordeeva. In it, Nemtsova told about her acquaintance with Pablo Gonzalez (aka Pavel Rubtsov), a Russian spy who, under the guise of a Spanish journalist, followed members of the Russian opposition in Europe; in early 2022, he was detained in Poland, and in the summer of 2024, he returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange.
Who is Pablo Gonzalez (Pavel Rubtsov)?
He was born in the USSR. His mother, Maria Elena Gonzalez, was the granddaughter of a Spaniard who was taken from the country during the Civil War. She married the Soviet scientist Alexey Rubtsov. They named their son Paul. Later, a divorce followed, and Maria Elena and her nine-year-old son returned to their historical homeland, the Basque Country, where she changed his name to Pablo Gonzalez Yague.
In 2003, when he was 21 years old, Gonzalez received a Russian passport. But in the Russian opposition, he was known only as a Spaniard who studied Russian at the University of Barcelona. Gonzalez pretended to be a war correspondent for the Basque newspaper Gara and actually traveled to the Donbass, South Ossetia, the annexed Crimea, Transdniestria and Nagorno-Karabakh. He was considered an experienced military officer and tried to maintain friendly relations with Russian journalists and politicians in Europe.
On February 28, 2022, Gonzalez was detained in Poland near the border with Ukraine, suspected of spying for Russia. Amnesty International and Reporters Without Borders came out in support of him at the time. But in 2023, the Agency revealed that Gonzalez was indeed a spy, and that through his friendship with Zhanna Nemtsova, he had infiltrated her entourage. The investigation was based on anonymous sources, and Nemtsova declined to comment at the time.
In August 2024, Gonzalez was among the spies who returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange and shook hands with Vladimir Putin. Now he lives in Moscow.
Under the guise of a journalist, he infiltrated the Russian opposition. But he was caught by the Polish police — and now he has returned to Russia as part of an exchange Link/Archive
What did Zhanna Nemtsova say about him?
She said that she met Gonzalez in 2016 at a meeting of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. Gonzalez was accredited to PACE as a journalist and asked for an interview for the Basque newspaper Gara. Nemtsova initially refused ("It seemed pointless to me: who in the Basque Country is interested in the situation in Russia?"), but Olga Shorina, co-founder of the Nemtsov Foundation, still convinced her to answer Gonzalez's questions.
After this interview, he, like other journalists, was invited to attend events of the Nemtsov Foundation in different EU countries. He regularly visited them. Nemtsova noted that the foundation did not pay for these trips, but paid for two lectures that he gave in 2018 and 2019 at the school of journalism organized by the foundation. Nemtsova stressed that Gonzalez was invited as a lecturer, because he was known as a journalist who worked a lot in hot spots in the former Soviet Union.
Pavel Rubtsov and Zhanna Nemtsova in Kiev. 2017 year
Zhanna Nemtsova Archive
In an interview, Nemtsova said that she had a "not very tight" romantic relationship with Gonzalez, which lasted from late 2017 to 2019. At the same time, she denies that he accessed her laptop and copied her father's personal letters from there (the Agency and The Guardian wrote about this). According to Nemtsova, she lent Gonzalez a laptop when he complained that his computer was broken. But it was my father's old laptop, previously checked by the Russian Investigative Committee, and there was "nothing terrible in the email, except for endless mailings."
Nemtsova first thought that there might be something wrong with Gonzalez when her friend, who lived in Spain, said: "Pablo, stop lying, you're not a Basque, you're a pure Russian." She also found it suspicious that Gonzalez, a legally married man with three children, could afford to travel all over Europe on the salary he was supposedly paid at a small Basque newspaper. His fears were also indirectly confirmed by his political views, which he did not hide from her. "Pablo is not only a GRU agent for money, he is really an ideologically charged person. He likes the concept of a multipolar world, he is a terrible anti-Americanist, " Nemtsova explained.
According to her, at the end of their relationship with Gonzalez, she shared her suspicions about him with friends, but they were in no hurry to believe them. She wasn't sure herself.
When Gonzalez was detained, Nemtsova realized that sooner or later she would have to be interrogated. This happened in 2023. Polish investigators showed her Gonzalez's reports, which were also devoted to her. According to her, "he didn't really write anything bad about me," but in any case, this reading was "an amazing experience." After the interrogation, Nemtsova contacted the Agency and became their source for the investigation of Gonzalez. According to her, she believed that this was socially important information, but she could not speak in the media under her own name, because she gave a non-disclosure agreement to the investigation in Poland.
"It's probably unpleasant to admit some things, but how can I hide it, what other options did I have?" — No, " she said.
Pablo Gonzalez gets on a plane to Moscow during a prisoner exchange. August 1, 2024
FSB / TASS / Profimedia (he definitely got the Star Wars/libtard act down lol)
Nemtsova also said that it was she who came up with the idea to exchange Gonzalez for Vladimir Kara-Murza, an associate of Boris Nemtsov, who was serving a 25 — year sentence in Russia on charges of treason. "I had a wonderful Polish lawyer, quite famous. I suggested to him: "Let's exchange Pablo for Kara-Murza. Pablo positions himself as a journalist, Kara-Murza can also be called a journalist. Pablo is a GRU officer, probably Russia needs him, and Kara-Murza is a very respected person in the West, " she said. The lawyer gave this idea to the Polish authorities, and they-to the US authorities, and as a result, both Gonzalez and Kara-Murza were exchanged. "I do not know what role I played, but I came up with this idea," Nemtsova said.
To accusations that she and her journalism school "became Gonzalez's entry point into the Russian opposition," Nemtsova said that counterintelligence is engaged in exposing spies, and she cannot "replace the special service." When asked exactly what reasons (personal or official) Gonzalez could have entered into a relationship with her, she replied: "I, oddly enough, believe that it was of my own volition."
YouTube link from this cunt's channel didn't watch
Link/Archive In Russian, use Google or Yandex
lol. lmao, even
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Anasûrimbor Kellhus
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from another user i forgot to capture the user name of cause i wasn't planning to repost it here
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Total verified loss loss is about 26 millions in total. 20 more than some fabricated number of certain tribe members