Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Hungary would only take the Hungarian parts. They already got dual citizenship from Orbán and get paid in potatos to vote for him.

If he manages to hold onto power until that happens, he would surely be fedposted by the right if he refused the Carpathians. If he accepts, he just gets voters he already has, and cements his place in history books as surely as if Two Tier Stramer bought New York state from Trump back to the UK.
 
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Soyjack Pinhead said:
You know, someone once procured a hen from an industrial chicken farm, and attempted to raise it in a backyard flock. What they discovered is that decades of selective breeding had left the poor creature too heavy to incubate her own eggs. I think about that story whenever anyone wonders why Europe does not show more independence. They can't, because Europe's modern political class, from the PMs to the organizer in the smallest village, has never been allowed to have either balls or neurons. The possibility of defying Uncle Sam is as remote as the possibility of that chicken raising her own offspring.
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I hear you. plus european governments are just theater and the real power is in the unelected EU commission and its million men bureaucracy.
Except the usual idiots, i dont know anyone really looking forward to fighting russia and those actually fit enough are even less.
european countries basically have no armies and no hardware. military installations have been sold or demolished. it will take a couple decades to rebuild militaries and the relative infrastructure, and the only ones who dont know this are apparently employed in governments.


Unarmed Gunman said:
I mean, dead or missing people aren't supposed to vote though..
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they will vote en masse for the green clown of course

Sister Miriam Godwinson said:
I like how Trump is going "RUSSIA MUST AGREE TO THE TERMS OR THERE WILL BE YUUUGE SANCTIONS AND TARIFFS" while Zelensky in Davos again reitirates that there will be no peace. It's all so tiresome.
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he, russians will have to pull chips from microwaves too.
i dont know if there is more space for sanctions but i think it is pretty safe to state that sanctions do not really work. also the stories i hear that russian economy is collapsing do not agree with what my russian friends tell me.
so ultimately i am not sure how much leverage Trump has, and the military intervention card is a really risky one, assuming the US Army can pull that off, which many say it cant.
and btw all those expensive floating airports have become irrelevant since hypersonics were deployed.

main problem is that seems nobody listens to what russians say and keep sticking to the old BS memes of territory and empire and unprovoked. russians said it clearly: ukraine in NATO is a niet and it will have to be enshrined in the constitution, and even that would really be a the bare minimum because the west has lost any credibility after decades of lying and cheating; NATO or europeans troops in Ukr are a non starter and actually is exactly what started the SMO.

i still see a scenario where russia will have to take over the whole ukraine to avoid it being used as staging ground for attacks.

i think is also a good idea to keep an eye on Georgia, Abkhazia, Transnistria and Moldova to see if the CIA/state dept shenanigans continue there.
i read the "syrian regime" is kicking out the russians, which could be a sign the deep state is still operational.

And Kaja Kallas, together with Mark Rutte, should be in a lunatics asylum.
 
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Eternal Gopnik said:
Yeah I dunno, annexing a part of a broken state full of seething hohols with no economy and little resources doesn't seem like a winning strategy. Someone would have to pump an insane sum of money into rebuilding it and it would just get stolen down to the last forint, zloty, or whatever the hell Romania even uses. Plus, in case of Hungary in particular, it's not a very populous country, the hohols would just outvote them and effectively install their own government in Budapest and I don't think Orban is dumb enough to allow that.
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To add to this, there is an entire Romanian-speaking state, Moldova, that Romania could potentially push for unification with. However, Moldova's development is comparable to that of a sub-Saharan country, and it would fuck up Romania's economy big time. Those regions of ukraine that were part of Romania are realistically lost forever.
 
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Slur Generator said:
To add to this, there is an entire Romanian-speaking state, Moldova, that Romania could potentially push for unification with. However, Moldova's development is comparable to that of a sub-Saharan country, and it would fuck up Romania's economy big time. Those regions of ukraine that were part of Romania are realistically lost forever.
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Yeah, I think they like to fantasize about it sometimes but the economic reality just isn't there. And then there's the whole thing with Transnitria, a NATO country having a territorial dispute with Russia is a nonstarter.
 
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Male Idiot said:
Letting economic or even military reality dictate things isn't an eu thing.
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The weird bullshit regulations (e.g. circular economy insanity) coming from the EU parliament suggests they're not removing their heads from their asses even when it comes to internal affairs. They're entirely ideologically possessed.
 
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Francesco DeIIamorte said:
The weird bullshit regulations (e.g. circular economy insanity) coming from the EU parliament suggests they're not removing their heads from their asses even when it comes to internal affairs. They're entirely ideologically possessed.
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most of the stuff coming from the EU comes from the commission and its huge bureaucracy. the EU parliament is basically a rubber stamping entity; the EU parliament is mostly a parking spot for ejected national politicians, who collect huge salaries and do mostly nothing. waiting for an opportunity to return to national politics.

Dracula von der Lyin' was nominated during a private meeting.

The soviet union was way more democratic
 
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Male Idiot said:
That is the Chinese curse.
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That's something some American writer from a century ago the name I've forgotten since made up from thin air. Maybe it's the same guy who made up that claim that Einstein was bad at math.
 
Audit said:
The future of Ukraine is most likely as a rump state west of the Dnieper.
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Putin (I think via Medvedev) has recently been referring to Hoholistan as "the country that is currently called the Ukraine", which is hilarious. Assuming this means anything, it sounds like "Ukraine" will cease to exist as a political entity in the near future. Assuming that Poland et al don't do anything, I'm looking forward to a new rump state called something like "Nulandia" appearing in what is currently western Ukraine. The rest, of course, will be incorporated into Russia, where it belongs.

So the "100 Year Pact" that the stupid faggot Starmer concocted will be more like the "100 Day Pact", the way things are going.
 
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