Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[The giant penis of doom]

(yes, i know - soviet union is not the same thing as russia, tomato tomato)

Far be it from me to defend Russians, not a particular fan of them, but the Soviet Union is distinctly different from Russia. The people are the same (more or less), but the leaders today are not Jewish "revolutionaries" or their stooges.

Einstein was bad at math

He was not a genius by any means, but yeah, the claim that he failed high school math is just dumb. But there is a controversy around his results - even ignoring that his theories he got famous for (which are ironically not the ones he got the Nobel for) were mathematically based entirely in other people's works, mainly Lorentz and Minkowski -, that the little kike stole it wholesale. I think it's just tinfoil, but worth 10 minutes of research from anyone interested in 20th century physics and Jewish achievements.

 

[Mashed Thatchussy]

Far be it from me to defend Russians, not a particular fan of them, but the Soviet Union is distinctly different from Russia. The people are the same (more or less), but the leaders today are not Jewish "revolutionaries" or their stooges.

>nooo you don't get it! my people are dindu nuffin peaceful little velvet hippos, it was just the darn jews steering them towards war!
lol
i mean come on, i get your point that the leadership was a bit different (understatement of the century) but even in the other periods of history there are plenty of examples where ruskis started shit unprovoked, just seeking to expand their power. it is what it is, but it's stupid to say they will/have never attack/ed unprovoked

 

[demicolon]

Assuming that Poland et al don't do anything

Under previous "based" government? Yeah, they could possibly "join" westernmost parts of Ukraine. They had this obsession of "Poland from sea to sea", a pipe dream stemming from ancient history when Poland was an actual superpower standing between the civilized West and barbaric hordes of the East. The practical side of it would be that Poland would benefit from taxing land transit from Russia to Western Europe due to occupying all possible landmass to transit by. Current government? Little more than lizard people mass-produced in artificial wombs by WEF so expect them to maybe even go for open war on behalf of Ukraine as they're the only ones aside from Turkey who have anything resembling a serious army in Europe.

He was not a genius by any means

He was a child prodigy in math. Also loved to play violin. Also hated his teachers for being far too closed-minded and strict. Also had an interesting take on the US of the time: turning science into a for-profit endeavour will end in disaster and the Americans are slaves to their women.

 

[Mashed Thatchussy]

i wonder if, once the situation gets desperate enough, the ukrops will really try to make fighting age males come back from countries that they fled to by whatever means they may concoct. there were mentions of that happening in poland a few months ago, but i'm pretty sure it was just a single minister making a comment, never any actual plans
i'd like to see them try, would be a huge shitstorm but i don't think it's feasible. wish this war was over already, even if just to make the nafoids shut up

 

[cybertoaster]

Which embassy was that?

The future of Ukraine is most likely as a rump state west of the Dnieper.

I don't think its gonna end like that, more likely Trump's deal with Putin will be to cut off Ukraine and Russia gets the current holdings including Crimea. Letting them get essentially half the country would be too much of an L, and I think the west relenting on 20-25% of Ukraine's territory with a total end for the war and sanctions would still be a considered a win inside Russia. Don't get me wrong Ukraine its still fucked, with this deal there's no NATO and likely no EU or even Schengen deal, a huge chunk of the population fled and wont come back after getting into the first world. Another chunk simply died, we'll maybe see the real numbers when this ends, maybe. The country's infrastructure its destroyed and we (the west) wont pay for the rebuild, that I can guarantee that because some legislators here have already mentioned they are not going to support it, the idea being that Ukraine should pay for it themselves with future revenues of mineral extraction that in this scenario its not gonna happen, and with agricultural commodity prices in the toilet they're gonna have a hard time getting back up.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

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Again, this war needs to end to save the hohols from themselves:

The Ukrainian tanks fired at their own infantry for several hours, and when they were informed about this by radio, they responded:

We don't care, we have orders!

Even when they managed to contact the commander, they were unable to stop the fire, he also responded:

So what? We have orders, so we will shoot at you!

Faggots.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

the Americans are slaves to the wrong women.

ftfy but don't worry, Trump will fix that too.

 

[Turkey Beef]

Current government? Little more than lizard people mass-produced in artificial wombs by WEF so expect them to maybe even go for open war on behalf of Ukraine as they're the only ones aside from Turkey who have anything resembling a serious army in Europe.

It will be interesting to see if even the most delusional and libtarded of Poles will be willing to die for the inbred Banderites, considering that Bandera hated Poles more than anyone else and ignored the Nazis' orders to fight the Soviets in WW2 (Bandera went straight back to killing Polish peasants, and Hohols have yet to formally apologize for that).

 

[The giant penis of doom]

but even in the other periods of history there are plenty of examples where ruskis started shit unprovoked, just seeking to expand their power.

That's what every nation did that could back then. War was an essential part of diplomacy. It's quite modern to think of war as something to be avoided and peace be the default, mostly due to the economic model changing and land not be the ultimate value.
So obviously what we think of is Russia in the modern times.

 

[demicolon]

It will be interesting to see if even the most delusional and libtarded of Poles will be willing to die for the inbred Banderites, considering that Bandera hated Poles more than anyone else and ignored the Nazis' orders to fight the Soviets in WW2 (Bandera went straight back to killing Polish peasants, and Hohols have yet to formally apologize for that).

Lmao nobody from megacities like Warsaw, Gdańsk or Wrocław is gonna go to the trenches. They're gonna send losers from villages and small cities first, the same kind of people who are less than amused with this bizarro propaganda of Ukrainians being our friends despite everyone before 2022 considering them strawberry-pickers at best, thieves at worst. They're no different than any other liberal leftist; willing to ally with Satan himself if it means kicking the ass of people they hate. Don't worry - the right in Poland is exactly of the same mindset, which is why they lost the last elections so badly and why we'd rather follow Trump's antics than our own fake & gay politics. Everyone here supports starting a war as long as it's somebody else's ass getting ripped to pieces by artillery.

 

[Blade of Grass]

The Ukrainian tanks fired at their own infantry for several hours,

Perhaps said infantry refused to assault a position? That would give a hint towards what the "orders" could be.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

even in the other periods of history there are plenty of examples where ruskis started shit unprovoked

you mean the periods of history where everyone who could did this? yeah wow im really gonna super duper hate russians now you got me good with this indelible logic.

 

[Susanna]

Which embassy was that?

I don't think its gonna end like that, more likely Trump's deal with Putin will be to cut off Ukraine and Russia gets the current holdings including Crimea. Letting them get essentially half the country would be too much of an L, and I think the west relenting on 20-25% of Ukraine's territory with a total end for the war and sanctions would still be a considered a win inside Russia. Don't get me wrong Ukraine its still fucked, with this deal there's no NATO and likely no EU or even Schengen deal, a huge chunk of the population fled and wont come back after getting into the first world. Another chunk simply died, we'll maybe see the real numbers when this ends, maybe. The country's infrastructure its destroyed and we (the west) wont pay for the rebuild, that I can guarantee because some legislators here have already mentioned they are not going to support it, the idea being that Ukraine should pay for it themselves with future revenues of mineral extraction that in this scenario is not gonna happen, and with agricultural commodity prices in the toilet they're gonna have a hard time getting back up.

No treaty with the USA can be trusted, you’ve demonstrated that in general over the last three decades, and Trump+Biden have redoubled in effort this particular decade.
The only way to ensure peace right now is to annex everything east of Kiev, and the Black Sea coast. The northwestern rump state can be left to its own devices, but Russia won’t have national security without annexing the remaining territory, because a NATO promise is worth less than nothing.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

It will be interesting to see if even the most delusional and libtarded of Poles will be willing to die for the inbred Banderites, considering that Bandera hated Poles more than anyone else and ignored the Nazis' orders to fight the Soviets in WW2 (Bandera went straight back to killing Polish peasants, and Hohols have yet to formally apologize for that).

Dont underestimate the stupidity of poles. Some are smart, but they are drawn out by the vast majority of morons. Crab bucket mentality too. I dont have it, so neighbour shouldnt either (well known somsiad). There is a reason Poland stopped being important by early 18th century.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

New York Times claims Ukraine is losing the war

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-soldiers-loss.html

https://archive.is/9ARej

When considering the numbers, remember that official independent BBC investigation found 78,329 Russian dead. So, if LostArmour/UAlosses sites are correct, Ukraine has lost slightly less men (though if we go by their estimates, Russia has lost less), but if the Ukrainian journalist is correct, then Ukraine lost a lot more.

 

[Turkey Beef]

Dont underestimate the stupidity of poles. Some are smart, but they are drawn out by the vast majority of morons. Crab bucket mentality too. I dont have it, so neighbour shouldnt either (well known somsiad). There is a reason Poland stopped being important by early 18th century.

Pretty much all the "Polish nationalists" I've come across, rival the average neolib and Quebec nationalists in terms of antisocial, delusional and psychotic behavior, so crab bucket mentality sounds about right.

The former group is especially obsessed with re-creating then Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. For those not in the know, the Polish elites employed Jews to savagely oppress, exploit, and subvert the morals of the peasants. Really quite disgusting. Eventually the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth collapsed due to its political and moral degeneracy.

Fun Fact: the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invented many of the forms of modern political degeneracy, including many kinds that the West and other places in the world are subjected to.



The Katyn Forest Massacre looks a lot different after one take a hard look at Polish history. I suppose Sobieski deserves credit for turning back the Moslems at the gates of Vienna, but other than that, the "nationalists" always cry out in pain when their disingenuousness is highlighted.

 

[Mashed Thatchussy]

you mean the periods of history where everyone who could did this? yeah wow im really gonna super duper hate russians now you got me good with this indelible logic.

you ought to use your brain and read before saying something. yes, i know everyone did this and will continue doing this (that's the reason i said "it is what it is", but i guess you don't know how to read), my point is not to hate russians. my point, from the start, was that the other guy's claim that russians never attack unprovoked was stupid and not true.
tl;dr (you seem to need it): chill out

 

[Cuckoman]

and likely no EU

They are never going to be allowed into the EU. Not until they have rooted out all the corruption, which will never happen.

How long have for example Turkey, which is way less corrupt than Ukraine, been in the process for joining the EU? 40 years?
Absolutely no chance ever of Ukraine joining the EU in our lifetime.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

They are never going to be allowed into the EU. Not until they have rooted out all the corruption, which will never happen.

How long have for example Turkey, which is way less corrupt than Ukraine, been in the process for joining the EU? 40 years?
Absolutely no chance ever of Ukraine joining the EU in our lifetime.

That doesn't really matter, the EU itself is built on massive corruption, literally all it does is just corruption, it serves no other function but to funnel vast amounts of wealth from the people to a small, exclusive club of people who "talk to each other". All the Ukrainian oligarchs and their lapdogs would have to bend the knee to Brussels and agree to have them first pickings, though.

 

[MrJokerRager]