US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[GunCar Gary]

WHOA HOLY SHIT TRUMP IS DECLASSIFYING JFK FILES

Edit: okay rate me late. I’m just so excited! Does anyone know when they’ll actually be released?

with this EO we're in the "x number of days to come up with a plan to do the thing", but

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declassification-of-records-concerning-the-assassinations-of-president-john-f-kenned/

edit: archive

Sec. 2. Declassification and Disclosure. (a) Within 15 days of the date of this order, the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General shall, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and the Counsel to the President, present a plan to the President for the full and complete release of records relating to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

(b) Within 45 days of the date of this order, the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General shall, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and the Counsel to the President, review records related to the assassinations of Senator Robert F. Kennedy and the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and present a plan to the President for the full and complete release of these records.

 

[Burnt Effigy]

with this EO we're in the "x number of days to come up with a plan to do the thing", but

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declassification-of-records-concerning-the-assassinations-of-president-john-f-kenned/

The uneven release of the documents makes me curious, honestly, maybe both releases have equal weight, and releasing them a month apart makes the public digest it better?

No matter what, it's going to have massive impact.

 

[Sammich]

Provide a link to evidence of the hardware back door on a consumer laptop or a Cisco router or something. Something that turns out to be in all of such a device.

The US doesn't have a backdoor into iPhones (as an easy example) as evidenced by the FBI not being able to get into the iPhone of that San Bernadino shooter and almost resorting to paying an Israeli company for their highly controlled exploit (that used a now-outdated zero day) before they figured out a way in via brute forcing the PIN without resetting the device. Which Apple fixed.

Provide example of the backdoors you're referring to and don't just link "omg china hacked something!!!" The OPM hack in 2014 came about because the US contracted an Indian company to manage that data (lol) and the Indians didn't secure it properly. If China had backdoors then quite literally nothing would stop them and if they were hardware backdoors, as you say, then there would be no trace in the logs generated by the operating systems, making China practically unstoppable and the entirety of the USA compromised, along with pretty much the rest of the world and no one talks about this apparently but you.

spectre and meltdown exploits were a backdoor, weren't they?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(security_vulnerability)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdown_(security_vulnerability)

 

[Dead Lion]

Pardons signed for anti abortion protesters and EO's signed to declassify JFK, RFK, MLK Jr files. MSM seems pretty far behind on reporting this stuff lol.

They’re used to Biden waking up once every fiscal quarter to give a barely coherent pre-written speech about nothing. Give them some time to re-adjust.

 

[California Newt]

Number 2 sounds doomed to failure if what I hear about AI limitations are right. By failure, I mean that nothing is created, not Skynet figuring out humans are the problem.

You know how a lot of "self-driving cars" were just remote-controlled by Indians? That's what AGI is gonna be, but it'll be the Indians with 20 arms and blue skin—if you know what I mean.

 

[Dimension Sniper]

I'm sure.
Jack Ruby the killer of Oswald (who killed Kennedy) had a Psychiatrist Louis Jolyon West. Who worked with the CIA under MK Ultra. Oswald also worked for the CIA in Russia.
Maybe Allen Dulles was pissed about Kennedy not helping with the Bay of Pigs Invasion, so he had a shitty spy kill the president. To have a Jewish crime boss kill him. Then an MK Ultra scientist would get Jack off with an insanity plea. More about this idea in this book

So what you’re saying is that JFK’s head just did that. I knew it!

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

with this EO we're in the "x number of days to come up with a plan to do the thing", but

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declassification-of-records-concerning-the-assassinations-of-president-john-f-kenned/

Trump himself has said he wont decalssify the whole thing, since "someone people involved are still alive"

 

[TrinityReformed]

with this EO we're in the "x number of days to come up with a plan to do the thing", but

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declassification-of-records-concerning-the-assassinations-of-president-john-f-kenned/

"Within 15 days of the date of this order"
Literally 2 weeks, kek.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

with this EO we're in the "x number of days to come up with a plan to do the thing", but

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declassification-of-records-concerning-the-assassinations-of-president-john-f-kenned/

Bigly news. Looking forward to the Happening thread and it getting featured.

 

[California Newt]

Trump himself has said he wont decalssify the whole thing, since "someone people involved are still alive"

It'd be wild if he means JFK himself.

 

[merrybrandybuck]

When are the files dropping exactly? When are Kash and Tulsi getting confirmed?

 

[Breadbassket]

The Lumbee people have been federally recognized by the government.

Federal Recognition of the Lumbee Tribe of North​

Carolina​

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR

SUBJECT: Federal Recognition of the Lumbee Tribe of North

Carolina

Section 1. Purpose and Policy. The Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina, known as the People of the Dark Water, have a long and storied history. The tribe’s members were descendants of several tribal nations from the Algonquian, Iroquoian, and Siouan language families, including the Hatteras, the Tuscarora, and the Cheraw. The waters of the Lumbee River and lands that surround it have protected and provided for the Lumbee people for centuries despite war, disease, and many other perils.

In 1885, the State of North Carolina recognized the Lumbee people as an Indian tribe. 1885 N.C. Sess. Laws 92. In 1956, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Lumbee Act (Public Law 84-570, 70 Stat. 254), which recognized the Lumbee as the Lumbee Indians of North Carolina but denied Lumbee Indians Federal benefits associated with such recognition. Today, according to the State of North Carolina, the Lumbee Tribe consists of more than 55,000 members, making it the largest tribe east of the Mississippi River and the ninth-largest tribe in the Nation.

In 2024, the United States House of Representatives passed, by a vote of 311-96, the Lumbee Fairness Act (H.R. 1101), which would grant the Lumbee Tribe full Federal recognition, but this legislation was not considered by the United States Senate before the end of the 118th Congress. Similar legislation has passed the House of Representatives several times.

Considering the Lumbee Tribe’s historical and modern significance, it is the policy of the United States to support the full Federal recognition, including the authority to receive full Federal benefits, of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina.

Sec. 2. Directive for Recognition Plan. (a) Within 90 days of the date of this memorandum, the Secretary of the Interior shall review all applicable authorities regarding the recognition or acknowledgement of Indian tribes and, in consultation with the leadership of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina, shall submit to the President a plan to assist the Lumbee Tribe in obtaining full Federal recognition through legislation or other available mechanisms, including the right to receive full Federal benefits.

(b) The plan shall include consideration and analysis of each potential legal pathway to effectuate full Federal recognition of the Lumbee Tribe, including through an act of the Congress, judicial action, or the Procedures for Federal Acknowledgement of Indian Tribes set forth in 25 C.F.R. Part 83.

(c) The Secretary of the Interior is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

Document Link

 

[Necrosan]

Trump himself has said he wont decalssify the whole thing, since "someone people involved are still alive"

That's what he said on his first term because Mike Pompeo basically begged him not to but he said he would if he got elected again, also promised it to RFK Jr. to do so.

They need to investigate what happened on Butler too.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Why do people believe there is more to RFK's death than a Palestinian pissed off that he was sending jets to Israel? I'm not versed on RFK conspiracies.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

If Israel killed JFK I will eat a star of david

 

[Burnt Effigy]

spectre and meltdown exploits were a backdoor, weren't they?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(security_vulnerability)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdown_(security_vulnerability)

Highly doubt it, they're obvious performance optimizations in-silica, and are too easy to discover accidentally and exploit by foreign agents.

The best kind of backdoors are the kind seen in VIA CPUs (like those found by SandSifter) or Intel ME/AMD PSP/ARM TrustZone, as these are completely closed source, under NDA, not accessible by the user, cannot be disabled, owns all of the crypto keys used by the CPU, can suspend OS execution, edit memory, etc, and all of them can enable and use Ethernet and WiFi chips while the device is turned off but still has power.

A wierd backdoor like that has way less power than embedded security processors. Those are 100% completely pozzed.

 

[Professor Donger]

Only income tax being blown into smithereens is left before I fully ascend. Holy fuck.

Come on Trump do it, what are you waiting for, nuke that shit from orbit

 

[FlappyBat]

While an amendment addressing birthright citizenship would be great, not getting it immediately is not defeat. Abortion wasn't a right until it was by court ruling and it stayed that way for decades. The second amendment was absolute until a court ruled it wasn't. Outlawing homosexuality was constitutional until it wasn't.

Leftist states don't give up passing gun bans because the courts rule against them once. Maybe the courts rule for the executive order this time, maybe they rule for it the next time it is tried. The right has to reject this notion of the leftward ratchet, where only leftist are allowed permanent victories and any set back to the right is forever.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I don't think it's that the legacy media doesn't know about today's EO's that Trump is signing it's more likely they just don't want to talk about them or spread the knowledge around.

While these are not as earthshaking as the first day ones they are still pretty big steps so I guess the MSM just want to keep everyone focused on the illegal aliens and muh poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free shtick.

I can't wait to see the JFK files...I wonder how much will be redacted.

 

[Burnt Effigy]

Come on Trump do it, what are you waiting for, nuke that shit from orbit

I'm wondering if Trump is "sandbagging" a bit, he's releasing extremely popular heavy hitters interspersed by smaller, yet very impactful EOs.

Maybe the heaviest EO around will be the very last one of his streak, just to cap it off. One can dream.