Aaron Imholte / Steel Toe Morning/Evening Show / "The Toe Boys" / r/steeltoeboringshow - Disgraced Minnesotan radio host turned racist Internet shock jock. Cuckold chef de Spaghetti-os, "2-2" boxing "coach". Has a legion of a-logs. Lost his wife to a coke addict he played "Strip Twister" with. Fined $50 for sharing nudes of Kayla Rekieta.

[Legato]

I do not much care about what the Toe thinks (maybe you do). He is quite foolish. I don't think this influences his life at all.

Hes seething and you know it.

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

Hes seething and you know it.

I actually don't. If he does, please clip it and post it here, because it will be quite funny.

EDIT: Just for clarification, I do disagree with your POV @Legato. But I do enjoy your contribution to the thread. I despise a circlejerk; many threads eventually degenerate into a circlejerk-like thing. So having different views from mine is quite enjoyable.

 

[cdhill17]

Dammit! There goes my April and Kayla 'Caged Heat' fantasy

 

[Kipersonapiscesotter]

Hes seething and you know it.

Maybe about the no lasting conviction part if Nick keeps his nose clean, pun intended, but nobody actually thought Nick was gonna get jail time, not even Toe, therefore you can't seethe over something not happening when you never expected it to happen.

I don't see any L for the Toe here. I see a W for Kayla and April. I don't think that's because the prosecutor was worried about the case against Nick or worried about all the legal arguments Nick made, cos he lost them all.

So, I can't even give a win to Nick here. The prosecutor ultimately got what she wanted. Nick will likely need to stay clean for 12-24 months. He made himself look like a total clown since May to avoid this slap on the wrist.

A L for the Toe would be Nick's cyber crimes goimg nowhere or the revenge porm against him forcing him to plea or be found guilty. A W for the Toe is if the case against Nick goes ahead and another W being if the revenge porn case gets dropped.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Can you explain to me how that makes an L for the toe? This was Rekieta's case; what's the influence on Aaron's case?

I mean, as of today, it's very possible the only person who will end up with a record out of the Rekieta polycule is Aaron Imholte. I'm sure anyone would agree Aaron is seething about that, even if they didn't listen to him fantasizing about what punishment he thought each of the other members should get.

 

[Kipersonapiscesotter]

I mean, as of today, it's very possible the only person who will end up with a record out of the Rekieta polycule is Aaron Imholte. I'm sure anyone would agree Aaron is seething about that, even if they didn't listen to him fantasizing about what punishment he thought each of the other members should get.

You might be right, but the real sentencing for Nick has been in the court of public opinion.

Everyone now knows Nick got hooked on cocaine and booze, likely deliberately gave his daughter it or she got an environmental contamination and let Aaron fuck his wife and keep her naked pics, along with making retarded legal arguments that have completely shattered his credibility as a legal analyst.

Does the fact that Nick won't have a lasting felony, if he stays good, make any difference there? Not to me. Maybe Toe is pathetic enough to consider that an L, but I dunno, that seems reaching. Let's see how he reacts.

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

I mean, as of today, it's very possible the only person who will end up with a record out of the Rekieta polycule is Aaron Imholte. I'm sure anyone would agree Aaron is seething about that, even if they didn't listen to him fantasizing about what punishment he thought each of the other members should get.

Well, maybe you are right. Despite the similarities between Rekieta and Aaron, I think Aaron is more like a cockroach. He is spineless and lacks pride. I don't think he cares much about Rekieta at all; Rekieta is just a tool for him to gain viewers.

I also believe Aaron lacks self-respect. If he ends up as the "losing" party, his only concern will be how to turn that story into views.

This is why I base my view around that. But I do not follow Aaron much, so my impression may be very wrong.

 

[Legato]

But I do not follow Aaron much

Yet you post in this thread like you do.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

They could give him immunity, but probably not from the feds, so as long as that remains potentially on the table, he probably can't take the stand. Possibly Kayla could,

One of them has to take the stand to testify that the nude picture is Kayla. I don't know who else could be used to bring that into evidence. One of them has to testify I would think.

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

Yet you post in this thread like you do.

?

Do you prefer me to stay silent? If your majesty does, I will.

I was always just giving my two cents. Since the beginning of this thread, I tried to make it clear that I don't care much about Aaron at all.

 

[Legato]

One of them has to take the stand to testify that the nude picture is Kayla. I don't know who else could be used to bring that into evidence. One of them has to testify I would think.

Why do you think this?

 

[Desktop User2]

One of them has to take the stand to testify that the nude picture is Kayla. I don't know who else could be used to bring that into evidence. One of them has to testify I would think.

Since we have fuck all about his case because of all the delays and no motion filed. we dont know any of the statements of facts. For all we know, Aaron himself could have said it is Kayla´s picture during deposition.

It sure seems completely ludicrous to think the prosecution doesnt even have a sure way to confirm even the object of the crime. We dont know but it is tremendously unlikely.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

Why do you think this?

The charge is he sent a nude image of Kayla to Geno. The first thing the state needs to prove is that it was a nude image of Kayla. Geno has never seen Kayla nude. They need Kayla to say that is the nude image of her that was shared with Aaron. After they establish that, they bring in Geno, show him the photo on the stand and ask him if that's the image Aaron sent him. I don't think there's any way around that.

 

[Legato]

The charge is he sent a nude image of Kayla to Geno. The first thing the state needs to prove is that it was a nude image of Kayla. Geno has never seen Kayla nude. They need Kayla to say that is the nude image of her that was shared with Aaron. After they establish that, they bring in Geno, show him the photo on the stand and ask him if that's the image Aaron sent him. I don't think there's any way around that.

They could have all this in electronic evidence and wouldnt need anyone to testify. Why do you think the state isnt pleading this one out?

 

[Maraschino]

I mean, as of today, it's very possible the only person who will end up with a record out of the Rekieta polycule is Aaron Imholte.

I'm not that convinced Aaron is going to get something while Nick will not. Nick's too much of an obnoxious, prideful dipshit to see the obvious path to fixing his life and taking it: he'll fuck up whatever probation he's given. He believes he's better than drug addiction, despite looking for substances like nitrous that he could abuse to get high without setting off drug tests. He may not be able to claim he's innocent as a result of this plea, but don't let that lead you to believe Nick believes he did something wrong. He doesn't believe he did anything wrong, and that's the kind of person who is going to fuck up.

Why do you think this?

The Confrontation clause of the Sixth Amendment. Geno will have to testify to what picture of alleged revenge pornography he was sent from Aaron, and Geno seems like he wants to stay away from this shit and not testify at all. Aaron has a constitutional right to cross-examine (confront) any witness who is testifying against him. If Geno is not willing to be cross-examined because he's not willing to testify, I don't think he could be used as a witness, and that's devastating for the prosecution.

The first thing the state needs to prove is that it was a nude image of Kayla. Geno has never seen Kayla nude.

I don't think Geno having seen Kayla nude would be necessary, since something like tattoos that you could see on a regularly clothed Kayla would be plenty to positively ID her. He doesn't have to see Kayla's face to know it's Kayla if he's able to recognize her tattoos, which she has plenty of. It'd be more important for Kayla to testify she didn't give Aaron permission to send her pictures to other people.

They could have all this in electronic evidence and wouldnt need anyone to testify.

Not necessarily. We don't know how much information the phone company actually keeps for its records (and I've already looked this up before). They would be able to determine Aaron sent Geno an image at a specific time, but phone companies (in general) don't keep a record of what images are sent, only that an image was sent. Aaron could've sent Geno a harmless shitty meme that says "Play along and agree with what I'm saying" for all we know. Geno would have to testify he was sent a nude image.

In summary: Geno will have to testify he was sent a nude image of Kayla, because as far as we know, the phone company can't show what image was sent, only that an image was sent. Kayla will have to testify she did not give him permission to send nude images of herself to other people. Even if Kayla is willing to say she didn't give Aaron permission (which is highly likely she didn't), if Geno is not willing to testify (he lives in New York, not Minnesota), and there's no way for the prosecution to actually determine what specific image was sent, there's not really a case that can be brought against Aaron.

In this particular scenario, which seems highly likely, nothing Nick has done regarding possible computer trespass actually matters. But if he did do something, it could likely help Aaron, but that's a different discussion, and we don't even know how much investigation has been done regarding this.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

They could have all this in electronic evidence and wouldnt need anyone to testify. Why do you think the state isnt pleading this one out?

Oh, Aaron could definitely plead this out. State could offer a plea. But there is no computer technician testifying the image was a picture of Kayla that she shared with Aaron. That's either Nick/photographer or Kayla. They have to testify to introduce the image into evidence as the one that Kayla shared with Aaron. Geno then testifies that specific image is what Aaron shared. They can retrieve it electronically but they still need testimony to introduce it as evidence (i.e. it wasn't a random image of nude Kayla on instagram). The crime has elements the state must prove.

 

[Kipersonapiscesotter]

Since we have fuck all about his case because of all the delays and no motion filed. we dont know any of the statements of facts. For all we know, Aaron himself could have said it is Kayla´s picture during deposition.

It sure seems completely ludicrous to think the prosecution doesnt even have a sure way to confirm even the object of the crime. We dont know but it is tremendously unlikely.

The charge is he sent a nude image of Kayla to Geno. The first thing the state needs to prove is that it was a nude image of Kayla. Geno has never seen Kayla nude. They need Kayla to say that is the nude image of her that was shared with Aaron. After they establish that, they bring in Geno, show him the photo on the stand and ask him if that's the image Aaron sent him. I don't think there's any way around that.

I'm no lawyer, but let's build the hypothetical iron clad case against Aaron.

1. Kayla, Nick and April testify that the image was sent in the group chat and there was an understanding it stays private. This is what they alleged in the initial complaint and as such one or more MUST testify to this, otherwise Aaron can claim whatever the fuck he wants. "Sure, she sent me it and told me I can share it with my good buddy Geno".

2. They searched Aaron's device, found the photo and actually see that message to Geno. There is no evidence of this, but hypothetical. I seem to recall Aaron's phone drowned because there was a window where Keanu was flapping her mouth and Aaron beimg charged/interviewed.

3. They manage to get not just the record of the message sent from the phone company, but they also got the actual retrieved photo. Very unlikely considering the time delays, less than 20% after reviewing the various cellular providers retention periods, at the best case.

4. Geno testifies that is indeed the image Aaron sent. State plays the video, yup, right there. Keanu also says yup, Geno showed me this. The problem being, as of today anyway, neither of those two will testify and everything they have said is inadmissible, because Aaron has the right to confront his accusers.

Some of those can survive without the other. Is 3 going to be enough without Geno saying he received it? That's gotta be weird getting introduced. I guess it would need to come in via an expert witness or something.

3 is not needed if they have 1, 2 and 4. Likely 1 and 4 is enough.

If 1 is all they've got and no 2, 3 or 4, I really don't even see how he gets a misdemeanor.

I think we are at risk of assuming we know the process based on how Nick's case progressed. Potentially Criminal didn't seem to read too much into that time scheduling.

Aaron has said, I know I know, that the hacking case has impacted his revenge porn case.

Ultimately Aaron knows way more than we do. He will already know what evidence there is or isn't. If he says he is feeling good, I'd hope its not after his lawyer told him he's fucked. Plus he is on good terms with the people who caused this problem, so I assume he thinks it goes nowhere.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Well, maybe you are right. Despite the similarities between Rekieta and Aaron, I think Aaron is more like a cockroach. He is spineless and lacks pride. I don't think he cares much about Rekieta at all; Rekieta is just a tool for him to gain viewers.

I also believe Aaron lacks self-respect. If he ends up as the "losing" party, his only concern will be how to turn that story into views.

This is why I base my view around that. But I do not follow Aaron much, so my impression may be very wrong.

Yeah, but that's just funny though, watching him contort himself to declare every loss a victory.

I'm not that convinced Aaron is going to get something while Nick will not. Nick's too much of an obnoxious, prideful dipshit to see the obvious path to fixing his life and taking it: he'll fuck up whatever probation he's given. He believes he's better than drug addiction, despite looking for substances like nitrous that he could abuse to get high without setting off drug tests

I am very doubtful about Nick's ability to complete any length of supervised probation with no issues, but I'm also doubtful that he'll fuck up enough for the stay to be revoked.

 

[Desktop User2]

1. Kayla, Nick and April testify that the image was sent in the group chat and there was an understanding it stays private. This is what they alleged in the initial complaint and as such one or more MUST testify to this, otherwise Aaron can claim whatever the fuck he wants. "Sure, she sent me it and told me I can share it with my good buddy Geno".

I gather the accused must prove the victim waived her assumption of privacy if that is his angle, not the other way around. The base assumption should be the person has all their right to it.

 

[Kipersonapiscesotter]

I gather the accused must prove the victim waived her assumption of privacy if that is his angle, not the other way around. The base assumption should be the person has all their right to it.

Not quite and its a separate issue.

Kayla doesn't need to be on audio or in writing to have stated "For your eyes only, don't share". It's assumed she had the expectation it won't be shared. How solid that is in a group setting is anyone's guess, but lets assume full expectation.

Yet it needs to be introduced into evidence how the image came to be in Aaron's possession, particularly since they alleged how in the charges and already stated it was meant to be private.

Otherwise Aaron can say whatever the fuck he wants. He could pretend he found it on the net on a publicly viewable site and all he did was show a buddy as well. He could say Kayla gave explicit permission for it to be shared. The prosecutor can do what without a victim/witness saying otherwise?

The basis of the charge is cos Kayla went to the cops. She can't then sit it out and have the prosecutor use her prior statements as Aaron has the right to face his accusers