Megathread The Pooner Zoo - A thread for collecting wild Pooners and posting OC Pooners, and anything Pooner related

111k likes with 1.3 million views. Can it be more obvious that this shit is astroturfed with bots? Even if a lot of these likes aren't bots, how can anyone not see this and genuinely believe trans is not a social contagion with these women?
Astroturfed or not, the best way to peak people is to let trans people speak for themselves. Troons want to become women by watching sissy porn and porn that makes them 'feel' like women - AKA they want to be the ones penetrated. Pooner porn is either fanfiction or fanart drawn of their favourite characters in the most sanitized environments possible; even if is straight up porn, it's always the most basic, heterosexual smut you can imagine with the tradwife fantasy sprinkled on top even when they don't realize it. They yearn to be slammed into the mattress by a hot guy, and be the object of desire, but they are so ashamed of their female bodies they want nothing to do with their female anatomy - while writing basic heterosexual sex.

It absolutely is a social contagion - and they take pride in it.
 
Pooners say the quiet part out loud:

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My heart bleeds for each and every single little poon-poon out there. I feel so stupid for not realizing sooner how many of the edgy ""gay male"" and ""non-binary"" artists I've followed in the past were just porn-rotten young girls who ended up ruining their bodies for a femboy look.

In my opinion, there are way too many similarities between a typical non-troon fujoshi and a average pooner - both usually dress tomboyishly/extravagantly, hate everything about gc womanhood and had a "not like other girls" phase, have had way too many negative experiences with irl men and, very sadly, often come from a SA background as well. I theorise that the slash/bl craze that started in the 60s was a first phase of the worst to come, a new kind of internal misogyny. Notice how the countries where women are most into yaoi happen to be the worst in regards to casual misogyny, like, for example, Asia or the US. And nowadays they also happen to be the most infested with tranny/pooner shit.

Yes, even Japan.

Especially Japan.

Japanese pooners, for cultural reasons, are just more secretive about their degeneracy, saving it mostly for online spaces and art. I've seen a couple of recent pooner BL titles and they're as teenage-girl-cringey as you can imagine. And that's what infuriates me the most - this genre is poisonous to young girls and shouldn't be promoted as being made for them at all.

When the media has spent so many decades glorifying and idealising male relationships and belittling female-male relationships, becoming a man for an impressionable, horny girl is an obvious conclusion. But it's also, obviously, a wrong one.
 
Omg, what titles? :stress:
Most are on pixiv, the biggest and the funniest one is still ongoing probably. It's based on some whiny vocaloid song but I don't remember the exact name. I think it has a word 'villain' in it or something.

The premise is like a wet dream of a fujo, 'cause the heroine is a :optimistic: passing:optimistic: pooner "edgy tough guy" and the cis soft uwu gay boy is totally crushing on "him" and sees her as a legit dude even after finding out that that "he" has tits. The plot, aside from obvious social commentary, is non-existent.

On the manhwa/western side of things, there was weird growing number of cuntboys the last time I checked a few bl titles. It was gross and I will never unsee this abomination. They could've just made the protagonists what they are - tomboys, but we all know that masculine flat-chested women do not exist.

Edit: The song is called "Villain", adapted into a manga by Fujita, a josei mangaka with affinition to fujoshi culture.
 
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Japanese pooners, for cultural reasons, are just more secretive about their degeneracy, saving it mostly for online spaces and art. I've seen a couple of recent pooner BL titles and they're as teenage-girl-cringey as you can imagine. And that's what infuriates me the most - this genre is poisonous to young girls and shouldn't be promoted as being made for them at all.

When the media has spent so many decades glorifying and idealising male relationships and belittling female-male relationships, becoming a man for an impressionable, horny girl is an obvious conclusion. But it's also, obviously, a wrong one.
There was one Taiwanese artist, I believe, who made a trans man manga and got dogpiled on Twitter a year or so ago because she was 'fetishizing gay men'. I know of it because it was making the rounds on 'discourse Twitter', and the Khazar Pooner who's well known for her piss fetish and being the only woman who will actually date Indian men* made a tweet thread on how this person was a Real Man and the series was actually pretty good. I cannot remember the title, but that was another example of a pooner 'Boy's Love' series that had a woman fucking a 'gay' dude.

*This Indian man later broke up with this neurotic Jew bitch in under six weeks. That's a helluva record from men who will lose everything over a crumb of pussy.
 
And if I live a hundred years, a hundred years old I will curse the son of a bitch who started the speech of "evil women stop fetishizing gay men stop enjoying things, yaoi baad"
I will never understand how a genre created by women and for women was so contaminated by such a harmful and stupid mentality. What hurts me the most is that these women want to take on the persona of "fujo girl" but don't want to accept themselves as such, I hate them and they ruin yaoi.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the "stop fetishing gay men" discourse was originally a reaction to the fujoshis of the 2000's. Back when fujos hit each other with yaoi paddles, and viewed irl gay male couples were like "my yaoiz irl".

But because the context got erased over time, I think it got misconstrued as "straight women can't enjoy gay porn" and so started pooning to get over their straight guilt. Basically the equivalent of removing a pin from your ass and replacing it with a screwdriver.

Compare and contrast with transbians and terfs, where neither one seems to get as hung up over yuri.
 
What this drives home is that Maya, and pooners in general, are extremely narcissistic. For example, at one point, she is being searched by one of the officers, and she manages to find it in her to bemoan the fact that her flappers were revealed for a brief second:

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This faggot just killed a kid, and she only cares about what is relevant to her. At some point her counselor said that she is the one who bullies people, not the other way around, lmao.
>being so caught up in your trans identity that you almost forget that you are being cuffed and arrested for shooting up a school and killing someone
>the cop patting you down has to remind you of this

:story::story::story:
Here's something interesting from the deathfat forum. This is Amberlynn Reid's ex's friend(s). She has an extremely pure pooner phenotype (and wouldn't you believe it, she is one).
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(surgery in question is weight loss surgery cause pooners can't diet)

Also something to note is Amberlynn's ex Rebecca "Becky". She's now saying she's non-binary and calling herself "Beck" (lol). This is an old pic but she looks the same.
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It seems all of the women in this circle are neckless ex-lesbians who are either ftms or genderspecials. What the fuck is going on in Kentucky?
It is Kentucky after all.
Pooners say the quiet part out loud:

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But when we say it, we're transphobic. When the TERFs make their observations about transpeople that they have literally admitted, they should attach pictures like this with them.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the "stop fetishing gay men" discourse was originally a reaction to the fujoshis of the 2000's. Back when fujos hit each other with yaoi paddles, and viewed irl gay male couples were like "my yaoiz irl".

But because the context got erased over time, I think it got misconstrued as "straight women can't enjoy gay porn" and so started pooning to get over their straight guilt. Basically the equivalent of removing a pin from your ass and replacing it with a screwdriver.

Compare and contrast with transbians and terfs, where neither one seems to get as hung up over yuri.
I can't correct you because I'm not that old on the internet and haven't experienced the yaoi palette.
What I did see a lot of was the "being a fujoshi doesn't make you gay friendly, being a fujoshi doesn't mean you can't be homophobic, you're a lesbian but you like yaoi? etc. etc." discourse.
The uke seme trope was heavily criticized.
But whoever started the "stop fetishizing gay men" (which I don't doubt women and tifs will start) came to stay and ruined a whole generation of nerdy women on the internet. And I'm surprised we didn't have other nerdy girls to stop that thinking, they just accepted it because they didn't want the "homophobic or transphobic" label.
 
And I'm surprised we didn't have other nerdy girls to stop that thinking, they just accepted it because they didn't want the "homophobic or transphobic" label.
If I had to guess why, it probably has to do with the fact that the BL fandom was always pretty chaotic, so even if there were opposing voices they'd get drowned out. If there were terfs who criticized it, I would have missed it because I only really paid attention to them in the past 2-4 years or so.
The uke seme trope was heavily criticized.
It was always criticized. Parodied multiple times, even. But if there's some specific discourse beyond "Literally just a girly small guy and manly pseudo-rapey guy" then I probably would have missed it.
It is extremely suspicious, this detailed, loving, in depth knowledge some of you gals have about "manlove" and yaoi degeneracy. :thinking:
I don't know what you expected.
 
"Dr" "Antimony Deor"
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A super DudeBro Heccin' ChudKing from Melbourne.
 
...people to hide their powerlevels a little better rather than announcing to the world that they like specific creepy porn genres and expecting the rest of us won't take note of their shameless degeneracy.
This is BP. We've had to discuss the ethics of spreading degenerate fapfiction in PM chains before. I don't think even the furries in AC have had to have that spelled out for them.
 
It is extremely suspicious, this detailed, loving, in depth knowledge some of you gals have about "manlove" and yaoi degeneracy. :thinking:
You'd be surprised what you'd be exposed to when you're just a teenage girl trying to find creative peers in the mid-to-late 2000s - fellas might not get it, but having friends into this stuff was part and parcel for the experience, especially if your chance for offline friends was minimal due to extenuating circumstances. One therefore becomes an accidental expert very easily. Also, everyone on Kiwi Farms is autistic about something.
But I digress. We're hear to laugh, so let's get some poons up in here for a giggle.

New Reddit to monitor just dropped: r/FTMen. This is in the wake of all of the little subreddits fighting with one another over petty bullshit nobody with a 9-5 gives a fuck about, but may be useful for harvest in the future. Keep your eyes peeled, Kiwis.

A married woman decides one day to no longer be the wife she agreed to be for her husband, and is devastated that he won't compromise on his feelings for her.
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I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place, can’t stop crying and don’t know what to do now.

Within the past month or so I started experiencing dysphoria. I thought I was nonbinary, but quickly realized that I have intense euphoria about presenting masculine. I was so scared to even think the word trans, but I’m pretty sure I am. Obviously this is all new, so I was going to give myself a year before deciding on any physical transition stuff like T.
I’m (26 y.o.) married. My husband(25) is the best person I’ve ever met, and he’s my best friend. I started about a month ago by telling him I was nonbinary, and that I wanted to wear more masculine clothing. We’ve had some talks over the month, and most recently I told him how I’m really feeling. I asked him what he thought about me potentially taking T in a year or two.
I honestly wish I never said anything. He did not react well, and said that if I decide I need to physically transition we can’t be together anymore because he isn’t gay. I understand he has preferences and can’t change those, but it does hurt me inside. I feel like I can’t understand how he couldn’t be with me when I’m still the same person (I’m not interested in bottom surgery so that’s a non-issue). I know that’s not fair to him.
Losing him is not an option. He is my soulmate through and through, and I feel like I’ve been with him in every past life. So my only option is to just pretend I’m okay like this. He’s okay with me doing non-permanent things like wear a binder or Men’s clothes. He doesn’t like the idea of a packer because he doesn’t see the point and it makes him uncomfortable, but I might get him to change his mind.
My life is falling apart, and he keeps looking at me like he’s already grieving me. He said he isn’t leaving and he still loves me as much as ever, but I feel like I’ve fucked everything up. I should have just kept it to myself. I really need some support because I can’t stop crying (we’ve both been crying non stop) and I just don’t know what to from here.
Quite topical: a pooner resents being accused of fetishism for being... well, a fetishist. Have you no pride, little poonjoshi?
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I read too much bl

You might hate me BUT
Omegaverse's omegas just feel like trans men with extra steps
Because I don't know about y'all but the week after the shot is pretty much a heat to me
Yes, I got cancelled in twt for saying this, they said I was fetishizing ftm (bitch I'm one). No, I haven't changed my mind
At work, a FTM notices that her peers seem to have taken notice of the effects of steroids on her anatomy and have therefore started mocking the fucking shit out of her. Due to poor social skills, she still has to turn to Reddit - home of the autistic leading the autistic - for assistance.
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Some women coworkers acting weird

I’d love to get some insight about this, since I’ve been experiencing something odd happening at work.
I’m a bit over 8 months on T, don’t pass at all yet but have gotten some voice dropping. During the past few months I’ve noticed some (cis) women coworkers of mine have started acting a bit weird around me. For example, when I greet them, they greet me back with an exaggerated low voice?? My voice is naturally somewhat deep already without me trying to force it, however it feels like they’re almost mocking my voice.. And when I’m just talking they seem to refuse to listen to me, always asking ”what?” as if they don’t hear me or as if my words don’t make sense, making me feel like I’m just stupid or something.
The situation wasn’t like this at all when I was pre T. The women in my workplace were very nice to me, talked with me and listened to what I had to say, overall being very kind and nice toward me. I felt we even had friendships and solidarity. Pre T I was already masc, I bet my coworkers thought I was a lesbian or at least saw me as one (I have a wife).
Men in my workplace have had the opposite effect since I started transitioning; they have started talking to me A LOT more, want to joke and laugh with me, and overall make me feel like I’m part of their group now.
I’m just so confused and even hurt a little because of the female colleagues of mine.. Why do you think they’ve started to treat me like this? Is it transphobia or some form of spite towards me? Or could it be something else entirely that I just don’t understand yet?
(For additional info; I’m 30, and most of these weirdly acting women coworkers are about 26-35. I don’t use their spaces, like changing room or toilets, and I’m hard working and positive around them, not rude or inappropriate or anything like that.)
It's time to take a stand and define transmisandry (which is really just a convoluted roundabout way of saying women do not escape misogyny even when they gallivant around in men's dressings)! Note how readily OP claims she's passing, which is something all of them do despite being the size of particularly underfed shrimp even on a good day.
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Characteristics of transmisandry

I don’t think this is a rant but if the mods feel otherwise I can delete and repost wherever rants go.
Important note:
I personally have experienced transmisandry from other trans people, mostly nonbinary people. This is NOT to say that nonbinary people are inherently transmisandist! I do think that trauma manifests in patterns sometimes, so in people whose trauma manifests by wanting to exclude or belittle people, when faced with me, cishet people are more likely to just be transphobic, while queer and nonbinary people who struggle with trauma manifestation in this way are more likely to be transmisandrist. Trans guys can be sexist or transmedicalist.
There are also inclusive minded people in every demographic. And, people who intend to be inclusive also make errors: IMO, it’s our intent to include, and effort to understand the needs of others, that demarcates a line.
Anyhow here’s what I feel indicates transmisandry:
  • Misgendering trans people through a focus on AGAB, “lived experience” or genital configuration.
  • Casual dismissal or vocal criticism towards people perceived to be cis men, on the basis that that’s validated by agab.
  • The phrase “cis men” used when criticizing men to a trans man, blithely ignoring that this is a particularly insidious form of misgendering.
  • Dismissing or discouraging masculinity or masculine traits, including trans men’s inherent traits or their gender exploration.
  • Ascribing femininity to trans men without our consent (an example would be the cover of Lou Sullivan’s autobiography. Did that strike anyone else as insensitive?)
  • Dismissing trans men in sexist ways usually utilized to dismiss the needs of cis women, for instance, dismissing emotional needs as a product of unrelated mental health issues. (I REALLY notice this last one because since my transition, cis people no longer treat me like this.)
Transmisandry is particularly harmful and uncool because: - By discouraging trans mens’ expression of their true gender, transmisandrists enforce the EXACT same cishet normative bullshit we have faced all our lives. - By discouraging the transition of trans men, they are actively supporting the patriarchy through suppression of agency of afab people. - Like all forms of discrimination, transmisandry decreases quality of life for the people it oppresses by reinforcing widespread cultural shaming of people for who they are. This can create depression and more in the people who are subject to it. - The effects of transmisandry do not begin with transition. I personally feel the effects of the transmisandry I’ve experienced throughout my life, including before my egg cracked, just as strongly as what I’ve experienced since.
I’m sure this definition is incomplete. Please comment your thoughts and arguments.
A further note: transmisandry often comes from a place of ignorance, not malice, and exists due to the inherent transphobia and patriarchy of the societies we live in. This excuses some initial instances of it but does not excuse people clinging to it after it’s been pointed out.
I believe a basic understanding of transmisandry is vital for any truly intersectional feminism, not because it’s appropriate to conflate trans men’s issues with women’s issues, but because I feel that a basic understanding of and support of all identities, including nonbinary and cis male identities, is essential for any functional anti-discrimination philosophy, including feminism. Identity is just too complicated; blanket prejudice towards any group will always cause issues.
Also: I am in the USA, in CA. I would be curious to learn if there’s regional variations of transmisandry or if it’s mostly the same everywhere.
I’m also white, non-disabled, and passing. I acknowledge the privilege I have.
ETA: Had to fix some links.
 
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He doesn’t like the idea of a packer because he doesn’t see the point and it makes him uncomfortable, but I might get him to change his mind.
How demure and womanly, asking her husband's consent before putting a piece of plastic in her drawers.
For example, when I greet them, they greet me back with an exaggerated low voice??

(For additional info; I’m 30, and most of these weirdly acting women coworkers are about 26-35. I don’t use their spaces, like changing room or toilets, and I’m hard working and positive around them, not rude or inappropriate or anything like that.)
I am getting really whitepilled about the zoomers. Sure some of them are extra retarded (like that OP) but they may be outnumbered by those becoming extra based because they are fed up and done with this shit.
 
It is extremely suspicious, this detailed, loving, in depth knowledge some of you gals have about "manlove" and yaoi degeneracy. :thinking:
As another user stated, if you're in nerdy/geeky girl circles online then you're forced to know about it whether you want to or not. I think in the earlier stages of things you could cordon off different interest better. But since the "SJW" attitude began to infect everything then you couldn't just say "and btw we don't discuss your retarded m/m ship or dumb "headcanons" here" without a campaign being waged to make you bend the knee or that space be rendered a ghost town. I can't count the number of times I tried to have basic discussions in groups about the actual canon and lore of a work only for people to still somehow try to make it about their fap shit. (You also don't need to actually read the works if you want a basic idea of what they contain and why, just read the tags and summaries and you'll get good pattern recognition.) Said SJW-ification is also where the "stop fetishizing xyz" came from. It got applied to a lot of things. Don't fetishize Pee Oh Cee by writing about them certain ways, don't fetishize the disableds by writing about them certain ways, etc. Fujos got hit with it hard because their entire genre of fan works centers around a minority group. It's that simple. And no, most of them haven't actually been raped. And no, they didn't poon out because they didn't want to be labeled fetishizers. You could just lie you were a man if you were so concerned or just do everything anon--which a lot of people did already anyway. They pooned out for the same reasons a lot of trannies did. They developed a fetish after fapping to it for too long.
 
It is extremely suspicious, this detailed, loving, in depth knowledge some of you gals have about "manlove" and yaoi degeneracy. :thinking:
I doubt there is a single young woman who hasn't heard of the biggest and most profitable genre of female visual media. If you're a horny teen gal with an interest in men, there are only two ways for you to go - written smut (which is also filled with homosexual content) or drawn gay porn, where you actually see what you want. Generally speaking, there's hardly a big enough collection of heterosexual alternatives like there is for men. And with the way straight porn for men is structured, there's barely any appeal for women.

Imagine a world where all your sexual animu content for straight guys is just lesbians and not a single dick in sight, not even a futa kind. I think the rate of autistic transbians being born would double and be around the number of pooners currently.
 
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Isn't it truly maddening that "stop ruining yaoi" is something that even has to be said at all?
Tomboy genocide. I have also heard the opinion (a based,not gross, lesbian woman) that it's a lesbian genocide (she has a point-most,nearly all, "trans" kids grow up to be normal, run of the mill, homosexuals)
 
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