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Should be a wild four years.

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The worst of the worst go now, the vast deportation comes as soon as the elements click into place. Those elements are clear and laid bare so no faith or "Trust the plan" shit here, its just really obvious they are lining their ducks up for a massive sweep instead of rooting things out piece by piece.
Adding to my own post: There are a ton of reasons to do this in two sections. Practically, if you start hitting places piecemeal you will miss some. Since they are illegal they have much easier times of going underground or just moving, You will have a lot more people able to avoid sweeps if you are doing it like Trump did on his first term. This was a weakness laid bare during said term and Trump's people have had 4 years of being able to plan how to do it better.

Optically, it also works better doing it this way. The first ones taken are the scum of the scum, that Haitian illegal who got taken is now plastered all over Facebook and Twitter. -That- is now the face of the people being deported. The left tried to get ahead of this by showing the obviously staged Illegal mothers weeping but it gained no traction. And since ICE is consciously going around the large communities and just mapping them out... by the time they finally get to the big sweeps it will be thoroughly ingrained in people's minds that the current crop are like that crop. It narratively completely undermines the media attempt to spin it and make hay, especially if when they do the big sweeps they can avoid leaving any stragglers to interview about how "My mother and father just wanted a better life!"
 
That's a bit different from trusting that the Chinese have somehow built a miniature sun or that the world is hollow
With the AI deep seek at least the chinks delivered and open sourced it. The world isn't hollow but using radar we have been able to determine the mantle is not an evenly mixed layer. There is sections were tectonic plates have been pushed underground and even large oceans of liquid water. So not exactly hollow but I could see how the Victorians could be confused.
 
Honestly, it really does look like Trump being cheated out of 2020 -was- a good thing. He had such a massive opportunity to look back at what didn't work and why and come up with actually workable solutions now that he knew the issues in more practical terms. He likely would have continued with his prior immigration actions if he had won 2020 despite them showing to have significant issues. Retooling an ongoing process is a lot harder than starting a new one. By forcing it all to stop, giving him time to replan, and now him being in... he is able to implement -far- more affective policies.


Its actually sorta making the case for requiring Presidential terms to be non consecutive....
 
Honestly, it really does look like Trump being cheated out of 2020 -was- a good thing.

So in 2016 I didnt think he d win.

I understood he was an entertainer and asshole, and that he was sent to washington to punish our ruling/managerial class.

I thought the managerial class would derail him and then find a bone to throw the normies so they d go back to normal.

The benefit i found in 2016 trump is that he d broken the lobbyists. 8 years of policey not being for sale would hurt the "uniparty"

The benefit of 2024 trump is like you said he has a plan and understands what doesnt work and why.

I m getting spoiled with all the shit he s doing when theres a lull i m going get bad withdrawals.
 
Why would cartels care enough about immigrants being returned to provoke a war-level international incident with the world's military superpower? That's a suicidal decision over something that seems like it has very little effect on their business.

This sounds like total bullshit meant to rile Americans up.
 
Honestly, it really does look like Trump being cheated out of 2020 -was- a good thing. He had such a massive opportunity to look back at what didn't work and why and come up with actually workable solutions now that he knew the issues in more practical terms. He likely would have continued with his prior immigration actions if he had won 2020 despite them showing to have significant issues. Retooling an ongoing process is a lot harder than starting a new one. By forcing it all to stop, giving him time to replan, and now him being in... he is able to implement -far- more affective policies.


Its actually sorta making the case for requiring Presidential terms to be non consecutive....
2021-2024 were by far the four worst years of my life. Among a ton of big and small things which I won’t powerlevel about, many family members “died suddenly” of blood clots, including my own father.

Yet, as fucking awful as those years were, I know if Trump kept office in 2021, there would be no way in hell a Rep would actually win 2024. Pence would fail horrendously and nobody would want DeSantis or Vivek.

Imagine having some awful fuck like Newsom in charge right now, we’d be headed towards apocalyptic times.
 
Go on, try it... see what happens next
A war with the fucking cartel would be probably the only war I 100% support. Theres SO many reasons they need to be wiped out.
Why would cartels care enough about immigrants being returned to provoke a war-level international incident with the world's military superpower?
they profit a ton for moving immigrants, and flooding america with drugs VIA the border, so its ABSOLUTELY effecting their bottom line if wetbacks think they will just get sent back.
I look forward SO MUCH to military slaughtering the cartel.
 
they profit a ton for moving immigrants, and flooding america with drugs VIA the border, so its ABSOLUTELY effecting their bottom line if wetbacks think they will just get sent back.
And the solution to that is to provoke armed conflict with the premiere military power on the planet? That makes zero sense. It gets the cartels no closer to what they want and guarantees their own destruction.
 
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