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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Snekposter]

In retrospect, it does seem like a bad idea...

Yes, but you did also put an end to the widow-burnings, so silver linings?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/27/misogyny-identified-as-breeding-ground-for-extremism-in-leaked-report

Lmao.

Here's the full thing for people to read.

https://archive.ph/wGWGt

Hindu nationalism, misogyny and the “manosphere” have been identified as breeding grounds for extremism in a leaked report commissioned by Yvette Cooper after last summer’s riots.
The home secretary’s “rapid analytical sprint” also dismissed claims of “two-tier policing” as a “rightwing extremist narrative”. It argued that the authorities should adopt a “behaviour-based and ideologically agnostic approach” to clamping down on extremism rather than focus resources primarily on “ideologies of concern”.

The report, which was leaked to the right-leaning thinktank Policy Exchange, comes amid deepening scrutiny of the government’s approach to extremism. On Sunday, it emerged that counter-terrorism officers did not believe the Southport killer Axel Rudakubana was “in danger of being radicalised”.

Cooper commissioned the rapid review in August. For the first time, it identifies Hindu nationalist extremism, and Hindutva, as ideologies of concern after unrest in Leicester in 2022.

“Hindu nationalist extremism is an extremist ideology that advocates for Hindu supremacy and seeks to transform India into an ethno-religious Hindu state.
“Hindutva is a political movement distinct from Hinduism which advocates for the hegemony of Indian Hindus and the establishment of a monolithic Hindu Rastra or state in India,” the report said.
“Tensions between Hindu and Muslim communities in the UK are still evident and the events in Leicester show how disinformation can play a role in offline action,” it said.
Under the heading “extreme misogyny”, the report said “an online subculture called the ‘manosphere’ contains a significant amount of content directly focused on misogyny, and sometimes absorbs extremist rightwing tropes.
“The ‘manosphere’ encompasses a wide array of communities that include men’s rights activists; pickup artists; men going their own way; and involuntary celibates or ‘incels’.
“There is an overlap between some manosphere narratives, in particular incel beliefs, and extreme rightwing [ERW] ideology including racist narratives. Globalisation and multiculturalism, which are at the centre of many ERW narratives, are often blamed as factors in incels’ celibacy.”
The report also says that the activity of grooming gangs is frequently exploited by the far right, and that rightwing extremist ideologies and beliefs are “leaking” into the mainstream.
“Rightwing extremist narratives (particularly around immigration and policing) are in some cases ‘leaking’ into mainstream debates. Claims of ‘two-tier’ policing – where two groups are allegedly treated differently after similar behaviour – is a recent example,” the report said.
The government’s approach to extremism should no longer be based on “specific ideologies of concern, but on behaviours and activity”, the report said.
“Not basing his majesty’s government’s approach on a definition or specific ideologies of concern but on behaviours and activity of concern helps to future-proof the approach. It will also reduce both the training burden for practitioners and continual identification burden on government,” it said.

In a recommendation that will concern activists, the report calls for the creation of a “dedicated national investigations capability” to “coordinate and take on protest and low-level extremism operations and investigations” and a digital “national centre of excellence for the monitoring and disruption of protest”.
It recommends “reversing” a code of practice, brought in by the previous government, to limit the recording of “non-crime hate incidents” against individuals. Non-crime hate incidents have been criticised as a waste of police time and a threat to free speech.
The report follows claims made last week by the prime minister, Keir Starmer, in the wake of the Southport killings, where he equated extreme violence with extremism and likened terrorism to any act that terrorises.
Starmer’s comments were criticised by the former police counter-terror commander Neil Basu and by the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, Jonathan Hall KC, for bringing too much into scope.
Paul Stott and Andrew Gilligan, the authors of the report, said: “Many of these supposed other extremisms simply do not meet the test of harming national security or safety. Government should certainly be alarmed by, and should tackle, violence against women and other social harms – but they do not constitute extremism as defined up till now.
“This new approach risks swamping already-stretched counter-extremism interveners and counter-terror police with tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of new cases, making it more likely that dangerous people will be missed.”
A Home Office spokesperson said the findings were yet to signed off by ministers: “The counter-extremism sprint sought to comprehensively assess the challenge facing our country and lay the foundations for a new approach to tackling extremism – so we can stop people being drawn towards hateful ideologies. This includes tackling Islamism and extreme rightwing ideologies, which are the most prominent today.”

 

[Chunky Salsa]

what about people of mixed heritage, British and non-British? Does William get to stay because he's Married to an actual British person?

If they're a well integrated Euro, sure, anythimg else, no. William seems poorly integrated though, seems to be very condescending to the UK, avoids the local community, etc.

 

[Special spoonie]

So essentially anyone who criticises Muslims in anyway they are going after. Even the Hindus. I’ve worked in Leicester, the Muslims are awful to the Hindus and Sikhs. But of course the poor Muslims. Funny they don’t mention in that article that the 2022 scrap was about cricket lol.

 

[A-Logato]

So essentially anyone who criticises Muslims in anyway they are going after. Even the Hindus. I’ve worked in Leicester, the Muslims are awful to the Hindus and Sikhs. But of course the poor Muslims. Funny they don’t mention in that article that the 2022 scrap was about cricket lol.

Muslims treat Sikhs probably the worst of the lot besides whites. The rape gangs also targeted Sikhs as well to a lesser extent and tried to forcibly convert them to Islam, typically by raping and beating them. This isn't even really a new thing either since there's video from the 1980's from some news report were the Sikhs are kicking off about the Muslims moving in and raping their daughters (if I find the report I'll link it).

Islam is the most incompatible religion on the planet and has achieved nothing in it's entire history.

 

[Kane Lives]

Islam is the most incompatible religion on the planet and has achieved nothing in it's entire history.

It did. They collapsed the one of the two great empires of late antiquity and nearly managed to collapse the other as well.

The world probably never recovered from that.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I enjoy and tolerate the Sikhs and Hindus for our joint collective hatred of Muslims.

Achieved nothing except the rape high score.

 

[close]

Wasn't the Baghdad house of wisdom the work of Muslims?

 

[Free the Pedos]

Muslims treat Sikhs probably the worst of the lot besides whites

The fact that there’s an emergency Sikh task force you can call when the Muslim kids at school are trying to forcibly convert your child says it all.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Wasn't the Baghdad house of wisdom the work of Muslims?

There's no evidence such a place even existed. It may be a mistranslation or misunderstanding of a more general movement within the so-called islamic golden age, rather than a single, specialised location. The islamic golden age itself was largely the work of syrian and chaldean christians translating texts to arabic at the behest of an unusually liberal caliph, who ignored most of the dictates of the quran and was not a particularly pious muslim. He would be called heretical today.

 

[Goose the Redeemer]

Hindu nationalist extremism is an extremist ideology that advocates for Hindu supremacy and seeks to transform India into an ethno-religious Hindu state.

I'm all too familiar with this "Hindu Extremism". It was only last week that Mr. Gupta from down the way ran about the town square stabbing children and yelling "hail Brahma" or whatever before exploding. Mrs. Gupta was not best pleased; He had taken her best carving knife.

Something ought to be done about these people, it's getting to the point that one can scarcely turn a corner in this country without running into a statue of one of their many gods. (Why do they need so many, anyway? Greedy bastards...)

 

[Trig.Point]

Callum who runs the Britanica travel channel hasn't posted in a while. Turns out he got pulled by the Police on his way back from El Salvador.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Children raped and abused in hotels, police data suggests

What to look out for​

The perpetrator might:
• insist on paying cash
• be reticent to provide any ID
• specifically request an isolated room
• specifically request a double room
• make clear there are no familial links between the pair, if asked

The child may:
• look unhappy and nervous
• consistently defer to the adult to answer on their behalf
• fail to engage
• show no identification

The latest figures reveal 26% of victims in the 504 reported offences were aged 15, 18% were aged 16, and 17% were aged 17. Almost all suspects (92%) were men, and the average age of suspects was 28. The victims were predominantly female (84%).

Not one mention of ethnicity in the article. Strange that.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Callum who runs the Britanica travel channel hasn't posted in a while. Turns out he got pulled by the Police on his way back from El Salvador.

Was about to post it. The most bizarre thing is they pulled him over after he went to the USA but not after he went to Afghanistan.

What a joke of a country Jesus. "No right to silence, no right to a lawyer" fucking hell.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

What a joke of a country Jesus. "No right to silence, no right to a lawyer" fucking hell.

I mean you have those rights but how you doing that with no phone at probably a stupid hour?

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I mean you have those rights but how you doing that with no phone at probably a stupid hour?

No, you don't have those rights if arrested under counter terrorism laws. You don't really have the right to silence in general as your silence can and will be used against you in the UK legal system.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Children raped and abused in hotels, police data suggests

I wonder what could have recently happened to cause an increase in a very novel and specific set of circumstances…

as your silence can and will be used against you in the UK legal system.

It will be used against you in every legal system.

 

[A-Logato]

Callum who runs the Britanica travel channel hasn't posted in a while. Turns out he got pulled by the Police on his way back from El Salvador.

Been calling this for a while that the Lotus eater lot were going to be next (yes I know he left). Their going to make their way down the list of online personality's who speak out against them and Calum must have been next. Can't wait until they try arrest Sargon on something.

 

[Mound Dweller]

It will be used against you in every legal system.

Yes but not to the fully-legal totally-legitimate state-sectioned extent it is in the UK
You know that famous screed US cops give "you have the right to remain silent"? It's a cornerstone of their legal system, you don't have to say anything and it's on the system to incriminate you, always very amusing when urbanoids here who call coppers feds and think they have conditional rights try and pull that one.
Bongcops do have a similar line but with a big fat BUT in it; "you do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention something which you later rely on in court". If you don't explain yourself this can be interpreted by the court however they feel like it. You have the right to remain silent yes but no right to not have it used against you.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Not one mention of ethnicity in the article. Strange that.

Of the 504 offences recorded in hotels in 2023, 92% (464) involved physical contact with a child, while 40% (203) were recorded as rape.

It might not mention the ethnicity but for fun ask the average person what's being used to house migrants.
When they say "hotels" then mention this article.