Car Thread - VROOM VROOM

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, but I can say that it's not all bad like some people would like you to think it is.

Who besides eco-nuts thinks owning a pickup truck is bad?

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Some interesting comments from the engaging and wise Scotty Kilmer. His topics of discussion include:

- Volkswagen: they make crappy cars so don’t buy one.
- the Honda and Nissan merger. He speculates on why Honda would want to merge with a crappy company like Nissan.
- GM’s retarded CEO and her retarded announcement about “staying the course” with electric vehicles.
- Scotty hates EVs and he details some of the reasons why.
- EV maker Canoo is shutting down.

I unsubbed from him after a while because of the non-stop click bait and algo harvesting he tries to do. Wise yes, but fucking annoying

 

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I unsubbed from him after a while because of the non-stop click bait and algo harvesting he tries to do. Wise yes, but fucking annoying

Yes, and the constant shilling for whichever corporate entity is paying him at the moment. But I guess that’s the life of full-time youtubers. They run out of headlines that are true and interesting because they upload content so often and so they resort to click bait to grab eyeballs which, honestly, seems to be about 90% of all YT uploads - especially news based ones.

Benny Johnson is another one who now uploads nothing but click bait video titles.

They could avoid the appearance of being scammy if they didn’t feel the need to upload every single effing day just to soak up that sweet google ad revenue. Kilmer DOES produce some excellent automotive information, but you have to separate the wheat from the chaff to find it.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Who besides eco-nuts thinks owning a pickup truck is bad?

A surprising number of "car enthusiasts" share the anticar types' hatred of pickup trucks, many for the same stated reasons (e.g.: "you don't need something that big", etc.).

 

[Thiletonomics]

Was listening to a podcast recently, maybe Smoking Tire, and apparently the last gen C63/63S has a reputation of being boy racer/douche bag cars? News to me.

The current gen C63 being a literal Rube Goldberg machine to try to squeeze out over 600 HP out of a turbo 4-pot and a hybrid system didn't help either, since it alienated the V8 fans.

 

[1994 Honda Civic]

A surprising number of "car enthusiasts" share the anticar types' hatred of pickup trucks, many for the same stated reasons (e.g.: "you don't need something that big", etc.).

They're absolutely the Not Just Bikes tier urbanists who think they're helping the people.

It's a ltitle tricky to talk about this subject because I was and still am guilty of not being for pickup trucks and SUVs. Those two types of vehicles have their purposes and issues, but not enough hatred that would require hard regulation to get people to go back to standard size cars. You're not going to make this happen without pushback.

Though I can sympathize with some of their complaints, but I will call a spade for what it is. It's an autistic dislike of bigger vehicles within a few groups of "car enthusiasts" who are really just a step behind of the urbantards wanting to advocate for everyone to be biking through a city as big as L.A for work.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

It's a ltitle tricky to talk about this subject because I was and still am guilty of not being for pickup trucks and SUVs. Those two types of vehicles have their purposes and issues, but not enough hatred that would require hard regulation to get people to go back to standard size cars. You're not going to make this happen without pushback.

There's also the counter-pushback from US auto manufacturing (who ought to go bankrupt) because they can't make money on small vehicles.

A surprising number of "car enthusiasts" share the anticar types' hatred of pickup trucks, many for the same stated reasons (e.g.: "you don't need something that big", etc.).

I miss the smaller compact pickups with a 4cyl diesel.

Where is your line in the sand between "shitty old car" and "vintage collectable"? Seems to be about 40 years contingent on the vehicles condition/rarity.

Old non-emission, indirect injection diesels on compact pickups that aren't completely rusted through. Fuck the EPA, I'm going to run the damn engine on used motor oil because I can. Only ones I'll never find in the USA will be the Renault diesel Jeep (unobtainanium), and the Ford Ranger with the Perkins/Mitsubishi diesel.
I've got one of these (much more shitty and rusted out though).

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

I miss the smaller compact pickups with a 4cyl diesel.

Most of the current "mid-sized" (really just full-sized from the '90's if we're honest) trucks are running boosted 4-cylinders now, so there's that, lol. The closest thing sizewise to those old trucks are the Maverick and Santa Cruz, but those are really CUVs with a bed.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Most of the current "mid-sized" (really just full-sized from the '90's if we're honest) trucks are running boosted 4-cylinders now, so there's that, lol. The closest thing sizewise to those old trucks are the Maverick and Santa Cruz, but those are really CUVs with a bed.

Yes, but I don't like dealing with SCR and DEF retardation and I hate gas pickups. I did recall people swapping TDIs to ford rangers though lmao.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

New emissions equipment equipped diesels are bad but you're also going to be seeing more and more particulate filters on gasoline cars now because apparently GDI makes more soot than port injection despite being cleaner in every other emissions measure. These filters have already been present on some european cars for some time. I was unaware of this until I talked to a Porsche driver at an endurance race I attended.

 

[TiggerNits]

Still hunting an Elise, I drove a base one but silver it's what I want... but I refuse to own a stove colored exotic.

The Elise always struck me as a less reliable and far less comfortable MR2 with better balancing and looks

 

[CaptainAutism69]

The Elise always struck me as a less reliable and far less comfortable MR2 with better balancing and looks

Tell us you don't know cars without telling us you don't know cars...Jesus wept. An Elise is a big boy go-kart that you can drive to the track and back again. And MR2 is for ricers to chuck fat can exhausts on and cruise around in.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

you're also going to be seeing more and more particulate filters on gasoline cars now because apparently GDI makes more soot than port injection despite being cleaner in every other emissions measure.

So, when everyone start deleting filters on gasoline ones, I wonder if we'll get sucessful pushback or they'll crack down even harder? Knowing the gov, it'll be the latter.

 

[anklyscr]

They won’t. It’s a lot easier to keep a GPF clean as the engine burns hotter

 

[TiggerNits]

Tell us you don't know cars without telling us you don't know cars...Jesus wept. An Elise is a big boy go-kart that you can drive to the track and back again. And MR2 is for ricers to chuck fat can exhausts on and cruise around in.

They're both mid engine low weight sports cars with the same motor. I mean, sure the Elise doesn't have the limited revs and a better transmission, but they're more alike than you'd think

 

[CaptainAutism69]

They're both mid engine low weight sports cars with the same motor. I mean, sure the Elise doesn't have the limited revs and a better transmission, but they're more alike than you'd think

I lusted after an MR2 until I drove one, and I used to race S2 Elises. Tell me more about how they are similar.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Tell us you don't know cars without telling us you don't know cars...Jesus wept. An Elise is a big boy go-kart that you can drive to the track and back again. And MR2 is for ricers to chuck fat can exhausts on and cruise around in.

Ricers? MR2s are straight up classics now. Especially AW11s which are now quite rare. Even back in the late 2000s which was peak rice era I can't recall seeing many riced MR2s. There was an itasha'd SW20 that regularly came to import events and that's the only one I remember. Ricers couldn't afford MR2s, they were driving Sentras, DSMs and Civics. I saw more riced out pontiacs and saturns than oddball cars like MR2s and RX7s.

Regardless, it's hard to compare an MR2 to an Elise in earnest. One is a low to mid range sports car that was meant to be a daily driveable street car, the other more of a street legal track toy with little attention paid to anything other than weight and handling. I think late MR2 turbos were close to the Elise in price so that really tells it all. Your $30,000ish got you either either a quiet daily driveable toyota that is also a turbocharged sports car or a roadster with an interior like a roller coaster and a tuned british econobox engine. If you spend $30,000 on a no-frills chassis you get a better chassis than if you spend $30,000 on a street car with a leather seats, power windows and a turbocharged engine, who would have guessed? One car is a compromise of many things and the other has complete purity of purpose.

 

[hog cranking frog]

Maybe I'm crazy but after some time with a new emissions diesel I have little problems with the DPF and DEF. Got a little guage pod that monitors Regen and exhaust temps. It kinda just works. Guys always telling me stuff like your engine is eating its own shit and I'm like good, now i don't need to eat it when I'm hooking the trailer up.

 

[DavidS877]

Maybe I'm crazy but after some time with a new emissions diesel I have little problems with the DPF and DEF. Got a little guage pod that monitors Regen and exhaust temps. It kinda just works. Guys always telling me stuff like your engine is eating its own shit and I'm like good, now i don't need to eat it when I'm hooking the trailer up.

I put 50,000 miles on my little diesel. ( Duramax 2.8 ) with no DPF/DEF problems. Filled up the DEF at the pumps where I got fuel. DPF alerted me to "Keep driving" exactly once when I spent the day in city traffic. Probably helped that most of my trips were at least 50 miles. I'm sure the DPF does significantly less well in city traffic.

 

[hog cranking frog]

I put 50,000 miles on my little diesel. ( Duramax 2.8 ) with no DPF/DEF problems. Filled up the DEF at the pumps where I got fuel. DPF alerted me to "Keep driving" exactly once when I spent the day in city traffic. Probably helped that most of my trips were at least 50 miles. I'm sure the DPF does significantly less well in city traffic.

That's what I've heard as well. Every dude that has horror stories tells me they also drive these as work trucks (they don't own) and idle the shit out of them for hours.