US Trump to Hit Canada, Mexico With 25% Tariffs on Saturday - Canada, Mexico tariffs threaten to upend auto, energy sectors.

President Donald Trump said he would follow through on his threat to impose 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico on Feb. 1, citing the flow of fentanyl and large trade deficits as among the reasons for his decision.

“We’ll be announcing the tariffs on Canada and Mexico for a number of reasons,” Trump told reporters Thursday in the Oval Office as he signed executive actions in response to a deadly airplane collision.

“Number one is the people that have poured into our country so horribly and so much. Number two are the drugs, fentanyl and everything else that have come into the country. Number three are the massive subsidies that we’re giving to Canada and to Mexico in the form of deficits,” he said.

West Texas Intermediate oil futures climbed above $73 a barrel following the comments. The US dollar wiped out an earlier loss to touch the day’s high after the remarks, while the Canadian dollar and Mexican peso both plunged. US Treasuries pared their gains.

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US President Donald Trump
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Trump indicated the 25% rate could represent a floor, saying that the tariff levels “may or may not rise with time.”

But the US president did suggest he was still considering if one significant import — oil — would be exempted. Trump said would be making a determination as soon as Thursday evening, basing his decision upon the price of oil.

“We don’t need the products that they have. We have all the oil that you need. We have all the trees you need,” Trump added, referring to major imports from Canada.

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Trump’s move was closely anticipated by markets as well as global business and political leaders who have scrutinized his words and actions for any indication on whether the US president would deliver on his levy threats or use them as the starting point for negotiations on trade.
Trump in recent days threatened and then pulled back on tariffs against Colombia in a dispute over deportations of undocumented migrants, leading some to speculate that he was using trade levies merely as leverage to seek policy concessions.

China Tariffs​

Trump also indicated that he would proceed with tariffs on China. He didn’t specify the levy, though he’s previously said it would be 10%. Trump has said Beijing failed to follow through on promises to prevent fentanyl and the chemicals used to make the deadly drugs from flowing into the US.

“With China, I’m also thinking about something because they’re sending fentanyl into our country, and because of that, they’re causing us hundreds of thousands of deaths,” Trump said Thursday. “So China is going to end up paying a tariff also for that, and we’re in the process of doing that.”

Trump has ordered his administration to investigate whether China complied with a trade deal struck during his first term, setting the stage for tariffs against the world’s second largest economy.

Following through on tariffs against Canada and Mexico, who are US neighbors, major trading partners, and export markets, threatens to have dramatic economic consequences, rattle markets and potentially launch a trade war by undermining protections from a three-nation free trade agreement.

Both countries have pledged to respond to any trade levies, including with retaliatory tariffs, even as their leaders sought to assure the US they were addressing border concerns in a bid to defuse the conflict.

“If these tariffs go into effect, Canada will respond,” Canadian Ambassador to the US Kirsten Hillman said Thursday. “This is not something that we want to do. We do not want to get into a tariff-back-and-forth with the United States. It’s not good for Canada, Canadians and Canadian workers and it’s not good for the United States, Americans and American workers.”

Hillman said that Canada has responded to Trump’s concerns about the border by clamping down and announcing new security measures, including added drones and helicopters.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort even before the president was inaugurated in a bid to ease tensions between their nations, and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum spoke to Trump to try to avert the levies.

In the first 11 months of 2024, US trade with Canada totaled $699 billion and $776 billion with Mexico. And the magnitude of tariffs Trump will enact could have stark impacts on particular industries, such as the auto industry and the energy sector. Shares of US automakers Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. turned negative on the announcement, erasing earlier gains.

“President Trump’s tariffs will tax America first,” Matthew Holmes, executive vice president at the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said Thursday.

“From higher costs at the pumps, grocery stores and online checkout, tariffs cascade through the economy and end up hurting consumers and businesses on both sides of the border. This is a lose-lose.”

Further Levies​

Trump is also promising sectoral tariffs, such as on pharmaceuticals, semiconductor chips, steel, aluminum and copper, which could apply widely to many countries, including Canada and Mexico.

The US president is an avowed believer in tariffs, saying they will force a renaissance in domestic manufacturing, though industry groups warn that it will upend supply chains and endanger existing factories by raising costs of source materials.

He’s hailed tariffs as a source of revenue as lawmakers move to renew and expand expiring tax cuts and approve other credits and benefits the president promised on the campaign trail. Trump wants to reduce the corporate rate to 15% for firms that manufacture goods in the US, compared to the current 21% rate.

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It will suck for his entire term. Manufacturing plants don't spring up very quickly (safety regulation is just one hurdle I'm familiar with, but there's more) and staffing them is even harder, especially if the country doesn't have a well of slave labor to tap into.
There's plenty of existing mothballed industrial sites along existing infrastructure like rail lines and highways that closed in the 2008 - 2016 window because they were offshored for line-go-up reasons.

They can easily be brought back into production again.

There was literally nothing wrong with any of them except the fact the people running them were greedy globalists without a care for the American communities and families they impoverished for the sake of an extra 0.75% margin.
 
There's plenty of existing mothballed industrial sites along existing infrastructure like rail lines and highways that closed in the 2008 - 2016 window because they were offshored for line-go-up reasons.

They can easily be brought back into production again.

There was literally nothing wrong with any of them except the fact the people running them were greedy globalists without a care for the American communities and families they impoverished for the sake of an extra 0.75% margin.
And so what, they give a fuck now? Unless the government pays them to refurbish and open up, they won't. No one Is opening up a plant with a fucking President that today has a 25% tariff, then tomorrow maybe it will be 10% or none at all if they scratch his back, or if he is late with his Diet Coke delivery.

Would you open up a manufacturing plant based on what Trump says today? Fucking hope not, and if you wouldn't bet your house on it, be sure billionaires ain't gonna bet millions on it either.

"Easily brought back on line" bullshit. They will sell you that plant real cheap if you are willing to buy it. Opening up a delinquent small factory costs a fortune, let a lone a large one.
 
There's plenty of existing mothballed industrial sites along existing infrastructure like rail lines and highways that closed in the 2008 - 2016 window because they were offshored for line-go-up reasons.

They can easily be brought back into production again.

There was literally nothing wrong with any of them except the fact the people running them were greedy globalists without a care for the American communities and families they impoverished for the sake of an extra 0.75% margin.
That's tougher than you might think. In 2019 I got to see some of the challenges in the recommishioning of a lumber mill that was shut down in 2008, and even just bringing the facilities up to modern safety standards was expensive (upgrading dust control was an engineering nightmare). It won't just be a simple turn-key solution.
 
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It's not like much if being request of the two countries, basically don't be shitasses about immigration. Canada seems like it'd be a non-issue since it's not a failed state, whereas Mexico probably does need some kick in the pants to stop their president sucking the cartels' dicks.
 
That's tougher than you might think. In 2019 I got to see some of the challenges in the recommishioning of a lumber mill that was shut down in 2008, and even just bringing the facilities up to modern safety standards was expensive (upgrading dust control was an engineering nightmare). It won't just be a simple turn-key solution.
it's something trump mentioned on rogan regarding nuclear sites, I assume EPA and other regulations are on his radar, but it's something that would need the right people in place first. he might delegate it to states (to a certain degree) so people can directly shit on their immediate politicians instead of blaming washington, and then he can point to them instead of taking the blame.
 
CRASHING THE ECONOMY WITH NO (american) SURVIVORS
America's economy is currently on an invariable course for cracking up. At least Trump is trying something — even if it's likely too little, too late. It's better than the DNC's position that the Moneyed Classes need to boldly keep plundering the country for profit and the people should applaud it happening.
 
So Trump announced that imports from Canada will cost Americans 25 cents per dollar more, but our dollar plummeted so you'll possibly be getting as good as forty cents on the dollar by buying Canadian, so it's still a 15 percent price advantage for us...
I'm reminded of Roxham Road and people flooding into Canada from America.
I'm reminded of the border reserves at Kahnawake (?) and Cornwall and all the guns flooding into the hands of our gangs... if we had non-faggot politicians someone might tell Trump 'we'll stop the jeets from crossing when you intercept the firearms before chugs get them'.
 
Not directly related to tariffs but that article have some interesting points.

January 31, 2025

Democrats weep crocodile tears about tariffs, but ignore how taxes, regulations, and government spending raise costs​

By Jack Hellner


I have never seen such simple-minded ignorance when I see most of the media and other Democrats talk about the economy, including basic economic knowledge.

Take tariffs.
Democrats just repeat the mantra of how the consumer pays 100% of the tariff and how much the tariffs cause "inflation."

When Trump raised tariffs on China, in his first term, somehow prices didn't rise much if at all. China is a government-controlled economy and they had to eat the tariffs to keep their economy running.

Look at the screams of how much President Trump's threatened 25% tariffs on Colombia were going to cost.

I heard that roses would rise to $90 per dozen if the full 25% tariff was slapped on.

How is it possible for anyone with an ounce of economic knowledge to not know that Colombia is not selling roses for $90 per dozen. That absurd figure would be a retail price after going through many hands, and if you've bought roses, you would know from simple math that even a 25% tariff would not drive the price that high.
 
You're just ranting wildly, what does any of this even mean? Sad!
It's means there is not going to be a blanket tariff. Right now from Texas to West Virginia the Senators are telling Trump "Listen cunt, we export to and from Mexico/Canada parts and produce and if you hit the country with a tariff we get a hit on jobs and loss" and want him to back down.

Maybe he will. Maybe he won't, but I can as sure as fuck tell you depending on how much the senators and governors yell at him, there WILL be exceptions, but Mexico and Canada will not respond to those tariffs in kind and will impose tariffs on the exact goods some states export so as to force those states to lobby Trump to revert the tariffs.

In other word, there are only losers in all this.

Which is why Trump is going to bullshit us and tell us how magically - in a short period of time - Canada and Mexico have "promised" and "are doing things" to alleviate his concerns so he doesn't have to tariff them - or very little at all. All theatre so he can call a win.

Already the futures market is distorted from trying to project what may be higher costs in the future and as a result we ALREADY have the price of goods going up here because the futures contracts have risen. All this does is inflate, and that's why the Fed paused the interest rate drops because whether or not Trump actually imposes the tariffs makes no difference to the fact that goods have already started to inflate as a result of the probability he will and we already have new inflationary pressures from nothing but a stupid cunt rambling off his mouth and not because anything actually should be costing more.

I got a notice before Trump even took office that the price of some of my materials was rising as of 10 Jan 2025 merely because the threat of the tariffs caused futures to jump and the raw materials therefore jumped and wether or not there was a tariff made no fucking difference.

I got landed 5% for something that didn't even happen. And guess what, you're paying for it, too.
 
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