Disaster American Airlines Flight Collides With Blackhawk Helicopter Over DC - Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.

An American Airlines passenger plane crashed into the Potomac River after colliding midair with a black hawk helicopter over Ronald Reagan International Airport in Washington, D.C., the Federal Aviation Administration announced Wednesday (January 29) via CNN.

Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.



BREAKING: American Airlines Flight 5342 has collided with a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The military aircraft, identified as PAT25, is believed to be a Priority Air Transport mission, typically designated for VIP transport operations.



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MirnaMinkoff said:
It’s because the pilot-in-command has the blood on their hands, whoever it is. The other two crew members are victims. Whoever the pilot is there’s going to be hesitation and prep before the name is released because you are basically naming the person whose mistake killed 65 people. Has to be extra hard for family because not only is the lived in dead, but they get to deal with the public outrage and anger calling them a murderer.
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I mean yeah they were at the stick but the pilot had a training instructor riding next to them making sure they don’t screw up and apparently also missed the signs of screwing up. The only one not responsible in some way was the dude riding in the back.
 
Lian Xing said:
The Warrant Officer rank checks out. I wasn't sure if warrant officers can get a pilot's seat or not in the Army, but apparently, NCOs can fly per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_officer.
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I'm not sure what you mean, but Warrant Officers are not NCOs in the American military.

In any case it's moot, unless you think that the troon swam his way out of the Potomac and started posting on facebook.
 
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BlewberryNausea said:
I mean yeah they were at the stick but the pilot had a training instructor riding next to them making sure they don’t screw up and apparently also missed the signs of screwing up. The only one not responsible in some way was the dude riding in the back.
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Agreed, the instructor/ other pilot should have also been alert to the fuck up, but in the end it’s the pilot on the stick who caused the crash.

I have no doubt it will all come down to the use NVG, the lack of depth perception and limited visual range meant they did not see the plane. They really believed the warning were the 3033 in the distance not the one they were getting ready to slam into. (Apparently the whole flight was a standard NVG training exercise. A lot of pilots were shocked NVG were being used, but their use was the whole purpose of the flight.)
 
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Criticallacitirc said:
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but where I work there can't be more than 3 people on the same plane incase something happens.

You'd think for higher level athletes and sports teams they'd have similar policies.
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Higher level, super-duper famous athletes often have their own jets, everyone else flies the same plane. Professional teams sometimes have their own aircraft. College sports are charters. It would be cost prohibitive for teams to be split up over multiple planes; only in the case of teams, families, band, cheer, and school press for major bowl games or whatever do you see two or three planes.

Fun fact: Delta has a tiny subfleet of 757s configured for charter ops, but they use on commercial flights when not rented out. Flew on one. Delta sponsors the ACC in my area of the country, so DL flies a lot of ACC basketball & football charters.
 
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Am I being dumb. I just relistened to the audio and that’s definitely a man . The media widely reported that it was the pilot speaking.
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Actually the PIC is not the one who speaks to ATC, that would be the other pilot on the radio. Idk how they split duties on a black hawk, but on commercial planes you have navigation officers or the captain dealing with ATC, the pilot is focused on flying while another deals with communication and other big picture issues so the pilot remains focused on flying only. It’s to cut down on distractions to the pilot.

I’m assuming the person communicating with ATC would have been the training instructor / 2nd pilot aboard.

People usually assume “the captain” of an airplane would be the guy flying, but he’s the boss overseeing everything with PIC behind the stick, (on the big ass commercial passenger planes, they have a cockpit crew of 3-4, but the pilot in command is the guy doing the actual flying everyone else takes care of other matters so the pilot can maintain focus on his job)
 
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pikachudidnothingwrong said:
Unbelievable..

Wait, why were their MULTIPLE people hand recording specifically these two craft in pretty good quality?! Am i missing something here? I'm not putting on my tinfoil hat here or anything yet but..
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Why do you think the possibility of two people, recording a video of pedestrian touristy things, in a notoriously dense city that is a major tourist attraction, is weird?

We have like 50 different people filing different angles of the 9-11 attacks and that was BEFORE cellphones.
 
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So either/combo of unqualified or bad pilot, DEI hire who shouldn’t be there, there because daddy is a major, or terrible ATC?
I wonder why the instructor didn’t correct them? Surely they’re aware the night vision changes how you see stuff?
I hope this promotes a general move towards quality rather than cheapness or diversity, won’t hold my breath though. Even when you get good people in, all the margins are cut to the bone and everyone’s overloaded.
 
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