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Why isn't there more american masked wrestlers?

I mean, masks are cool , they make good merch, and if you're ugly, solves that issue right there.
There was an American promotion that had a bunch of masked wrestlers, until it was shut down due to several wrestlers being sex pests.
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WWE/TKO have stepped in and "are taking action to protect" Asuka according to her Twitter. I'm guessing this means they've had to employ some type of security personnel to keep her safe.

Could wrestling fans just try to be normal people for a minute? She's a married woman with at least one child, just leave her the fuck alone. She has zero interest in you.
 
It's pretty hilarious how you retards are so obsessed with hating 0.3% of the population so much

There is genuine concern over troons and how their agendas are normalizing permanent and life-altering behavior and decisions, as well as impacting women's safety and ability to live their lives.

It's no different than the pro-anorexia communities that are out there and they give me the exact same 'ick.' Eating disorders can have the same impact on people and it is wrong to be encouraging that sort of behavior. I know the 'child grooming' shit is becoming almost a cliched parody at this point but the fact is that there ought to be care and diligence done when dealing with impressionable youth, and the fact that weird clusters keep cropping up that are disproportionate to '0.3% of the population.'

There's also the concern about the fact that there's so many comorbidities with things like violent crime (spree shootings, rape, etc.) within the troon community that speaks toward it being a mental disorder and that the solution isn't permanent/life-altering behavior and decisions. The fact that individuals who use similar rhetoric like yourself (I don't know if you hold the following opinions) full on deny that this happens requires that folks who are critical be 'obsessed' with this because otherwise concern/criticism is handwaved away.

On top of that, being an athlete myself and having seen how a biological male can full on dominate a woman even if they are in similar builds/weight/etc makes me concerned about women's sports, which is something I've volunteered and involved myself with (and am probably going to regret powerleveling over. I enjoy sport and love encouraging those who share a similar love of it.) I really don't want to see opportunities (scholarships, things like the Olympics, etc.) be ruined. It's the same concern I have over Roe being overturned or stuff like banning child marriages.

I also don't give a fuck about people who just want to quietly live their lives. If dude wants to live like a lady and isn't bothering anyone, whatever. It's on the level of weird hippie types or gutter punks or whatever. But if they're screeching loudly in public spaces about their sexual behavior, are trying to exert control over the Internet, spread disinformation, or try to be 'mentors' to impressionable youth, yeah, I'm gonna speak up about it.

Maybe try not to be so kneejerk with the Reddit rhetoric, brother.
 
Why isn't there more american masked wrestlers?

I mean, masks are cool , they make good merch, and if you're ugly, solves that issue right there.
It's a multi-layered issue in my mind, so I apologise for the rant.

First and foremost, it's not just an American issue, it is a Western issue. Because whenever someone decides to don a mask, they fall into one of two traps. Either they become a parody/comedy relief act (Hurricane, Curry Man, Kendo Nagasaki) or become low-rent Great Muta and reserve it as a "demonic alt personality" like some edgy kid talking about his wolf spirit form on tumblr. Amusingly both Jonathan Gresham and TJP are both doing said act. Whereas Blake Christian has opt for the body paint approach instead like Finn Balor.

Next comes cost and personal investment. For a Mexican looking to get into wrestling in his country, the quality and range of mask makers is fairly high. Thus he can revaluate his options at a local price. "Deon Sparks" (who shall be our hypothetical indie wrestler) has been hustling on the circuit for the last seven months after spending close to year in wrestling school. Deon ain't got shit to his name in terms of rep nor a dime. So he has to make a choice when it comes to his gear. Does he go and get himself some cheap trunks and boots from Highspots? Maybe get some funky jeggings from Hot Topic and rock his sneakers, keep those dollars set aside for gas. Or does Deon pray that he can find a basic mask/singlet combo that fits? Because you know for a fact that anyone who specialises in head gear, that shit is custom fit and thus costly for just about anyone not being booked for a super indie biweekly. And by the time Mr. Sparks is getting attention, will he throw aside said booking chances because he can now afford a mask? No.

You want a great example of someone who attempted a mask on the indies early on and looked shit? Fuego Del Sol. I love his promo game, amazing seller. But his first six months in AEW, that mask would loosen itself every other move. Now he's a small guy, hell he's basically Mexican. Deon has a nigger sized head. He ain't getting a mask that fits that isn't a balaclava or custom made.

Another thing to factor in is overviewing what companies want! WWE has often stressed the importance of emotion, which is best expressed facially. It's a big reason why they got Andrade unmasked prior to joining NXT and why Sami is well, Sami. It's rare to find a company willing to accept a Westerner in a mask. Those that have masked Westerners, well, look at how they are positioned. Evil Uno and Serpentico are enhancement talent in AEW. Axiom, despite being one half of the NXT tag-team champions; is the comedic relief to Nathan Frazer. I'd argue the best example on the indies and touring circuit right now is Ninja Mack and sadly you can argue he started out within the first category; parody. Hell the Wyatt Six would be more terrifying if they wrestled with masks, but they don't. Second the bell rings, it's just three dudes who look like they have Discord kittens rather than demonic plans.

Japan is the only other place that seemingly attempts masks, but even than they become isolated concepts. TJPW has multiple girls who are completely separate wrestlers/gimmicks when masked. Enhancement talent also get masked up in the hopes that the green rookie, once ready, can be something and thus, show his/her face.
 
CWC sign at Royal Rumble kickoff! And it was acknowledged by Cody Rhodes

Cody is on stage and just read fan signs. The first sign he read was "Christine Chandler loves Barb".
Dammit I was just typing this up as you posted this. Here's a pic!
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20 bucks says it's someone from this thread who is holding the sign.
 
i will never not feel bad for the female talent when it comes to this. wrestling fans like that and the ones who post suggestive gifs and vids online genuinely make me hate wrestling. if you like mia yim's flat ass that much just go watch porn, there's definitely a category for it

Womens wrestling sucks. It is part of the reason why I don't watch consistently anymore. Half the show is a waste of time and the performers are laughably bad.
 
Who was that one guy in the early 2000s..Mr. America I think?
Yeah, I won't lie forgot about him but he had a lot of great segments. I wonder what he's up to now. Would be sweet to see him come out on Smackdown's anniversary episode this year.
But on a serious note I am surprised there aren't more masked wrestlers, other than the fact that some masks are simply hard to breath in. Merchandising would print money especially if you had a cool design for shirts or replicas, if you got big enough.


Also anyone play Pro wrestling sim on steam? Basically a text based booking game with Steam workshop support. I've been having fun with it and the dev is active with updates.
 
Yes, Mr QAnoner, everyone who doesn't hate the LBGTQ community and who doesn't worship Donald Trump as their god is a child groomer. Republican bible thumpers like yourself, who blocked bills that would ban child marriage, are totally not child groomers

It's pretty hilarious how you retards are so obsessed with hating 0.3% of the population so much

But it's also pretty hilarious watching retards defend 0.3% of the population so much.
 
Not sure if you enjoyed 2k16 but I recently went back to it due to the roster having a lot of attitude era guys and early WCW dudes. You can still pick it up with all the DLC on Amazon to redeem on steam works well on the deck too.
I picked up 2k19 a while back but since there is no way to get the DLC and I have to start fresh It's been a slow grind to unlock characters and arena's. Unfortunately no one near me IRL has it so I can't copy their saved data. One thing I really wish that they put the same effort into the animation in the 2k games as they did in SYM and HCTP. Just the animations of Austin getting in their face after a stunner and Lesnar doing that weird ass shoulder flex before the clothesline.

I am hoping that 2k25 is better than 2k24 but I won't hold my breath. Honestly I wouldn't mind a 2 year cycle between the releases.
funny you say that, I downloaded a PS2 emulator and HCTP but its too confusing to play with an Xbox controller, might have to get a PS2 controller with a PC Adapter
 
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