Disaster American Airlines Flight Collides With Blackhawk Helicopter Over DC - Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.

An American Airlines passenger plane crashed into the Potomac River after colliding midair with a black hawk helicopter over Ronald Reagan International Airport in Washington, D.C., the Federal Aviation Administration announced Wednesday (January 29) via CNN.

Several videos shared online showed footage of the collision and the aftermath of the crash.



BREAKING: American Airlines Flight 5342 has collided with a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. The military aircraft, identified as PAT25, is believed to be a Priority Air Transport mission, typically designated for VIP transport operations.



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The right could've at least publicized the shit out of the FAA ATC hiring scandal. Like that would've scared the shit out of normies.
The right media has vested interest in still preserving some public trust in institutions, even if it’s profitable to decry the most radical shit liberals do they can and will ignore anything that would cause the masses to say ‘fuck it, burn it ALL down’. Hence the whole ‘return to 90’s Democratic values’ going on currently. It will be interesting to see what happens when the actual ‘white trad culture’ conservatives and ‘gay is a’okay, brown is part of our town’ unwoke liberals clash over if it’s actually okay for women to work.
 
Official Army Release:

Army identifies Third Soldier involved in Helicopter Crash
U.S. Army (archive.ph)
By U.S. Army Public Affairs
2025-02-01 19:31:23GMT
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At the request of and in coordination with the family, the Army is releasing the name of the third Soldier who died while performing a training mission near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport on Jan. 29.

Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach, of Durham, North Carolina, served as an aviation officer (15A) in the regular Army from July 2019 to January 2025. She has no deployments. She was assigned to the 12th Aviation Battalion, Ft Belvoir, Va. Her awards include the Army Commendation Medal, Army Achievement Medal, National Defense Service Medal and Army Service Ribbon.

Our deepest condolences go out to her family, and all the families who are mourning the loss of their loved ones impacted by this devastating accident. We continue to work with the families of our fallen Soldiers and support the ongoing investigations.

The Army is also releasing the following statement on behalf of the family of Rebecca Lobach.

STATEMENT FROM THE LOBACH FAMILY:
We are devastated by the loss of our beloved Rebecca. She was a bright star in all our lives. She was kind, generous, brilliant, funny, ambitious and strong. No one dreamed bigger or worked harder to achieve her goals.

Rebecca began her career in the United States Army as a distinguished military graduate in ROTC at the University of North Carolina, and was in the top 20% of cadets nationwide. She achieved the rank of Captain, having twice served as a Platoon Leader and as a Company Executive Officer in the 12th Aviation Battalion, Davison Army Airfield, Fort Belvoir, Virginia. With more than 450 hours of flight time, she earned certification as a pilot-in-command after extensive testing by the most senior and experienced pilots in her battalion.

Rebecca was a warrior and would not hesitate to defend her country in battle. But she was as graceful as she was fierce: in addition to her duties as an Army aviator, Rebecca was honored to serve as a White House Military Social Aide, volunteering to support the President and First Lady in hosting countless White House events, including ceremonies awarding the Medal of Honor and the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Rebecca cared about people, and she extended to individuals the same fearless defense she gave to this nation. She was proud of the difference she made as a certified Sexual Harassment/Assault Response and Prevention (SHARP) Victim Advocate and hoped to continue her education so she could serve this country as a physician when her time with the Army ended. She once said, "My experiences with SHARP have reinforced my resolve to serve others with compassion, understanding, and the resources necessary for healing."

Rebecca was many things. She was a daughter, sister, partner, and friend. She was a servant, a caregiver, an advocate. Most of all, she loved and was loved. Her life was short, but she made a difference in the lives of all who knew her. Our hearts break for the other families who have lost loved ones in this national tragedy and we mourn with them.

We request that you please respect our privacy as we grieve this devastating loss.
Why was it so important for them to wait 24 hours to release this information?
She has no deployments.
Is this interesting, or no?
 
I'm going to go against the grain here. The problem is likely not the female pilot, nor the "Gee Whiz" intern Warrant officer in the #2 seat. The problem is the Normalization of Dangerously Bad practices in and around the National Airport. The Helicopter the night before nearly caught a Republic Embraer at the same place. The problem probably wasn't her, unless there is some glaring issue in her training records. She was simply the one in the Right Hand seat when the dice rolled craps.

The hard ceiling for Helicopters along the corridor she was flying was 200' as it crossed the runway approach. The needed altitude at that exact place for the airliners landing on 33 was 400'. That's wher ethe collision took place and the AA flight was right on profile. The FAA has been passing Helicopters under descending airliners with only 200' margin of separation. At night. At th emost difficult and highest workload landing approach in the US. This was a system set up to kill somebody eventually. Oh and into this they dumped 1 ATC in a tower that required 2. He was getting behind the flow. Getting behind the flow had become normalized in that tower. Ignoring Proximity Alarms had been normalized. This was literally a disaster waiting to happen. And they ignored it for years. until the unthinkable happened.
 
Unfortunately for Ms. Lobach, she seems like the type who looks awesome on paper but that's the end of it.

Young female officers tend to get afforded more qualification opportunities than most, in my experience.

Not that she deserved to die, but a bunch of kids and entire families are dead and she's likely going to take a lot of the blame. Doesn't help that quite a bit of the posts I'm seeing about her from her friends seem to talk more about her ROTC days than her actual career.
 
The problem is the Normalization of Dangerously Bad practices in and around the National Airport.
Your analysis is good. But really since about 5 minutes into this thing the solution set is one of:
  1. Annoy powerful people by closing or severely restricting air ops at JBAB
  2. Annoy powerful people by closing or severely restricting air ops at DCA
This is going to force the irresistible force to meet the immovable object. This might just result in a big old clunk and everything goes back into the holding pattern of before. Or not. It'll be interesting to see.
 
according to this article, Rebecca’s mom’s name is Mary Lee

her mom’s name is linked to a horse therapy farm for women



my Early Life senses are starting to tingle…
Yeah most North Carolina horse ranchers with the middle name "Lee" (as in Robert E.) are Jews, and not old stock country folk.

Jewish princesses are also known for joining the military and doing physical tasks.

If you're going to be an antisemite, please learn 2 things about semites.
 
And what is the cause of lax enforcement of rules and the lowering of expectations?
Special rules were made to keep a cramped and deficient airport, that happens to be close and convenient to the rich and powerful, open. Further special rules are made to keep using the old short outdated and dangerous runway open to absorb some of the ever increasing traffic flow. Even though it should have been shut down years ago. Yet another separate exception is made to create a low altitude government and military helicopter corridor to cross the Potomac right there. Because the base that handles all the VIP ferry service is right there across the river. All individual exceptions to good safe practice. Made to allow a Legacy facility to keep functioning. And individually none are inherently dangerous. But the way they interact dials the risk up to 120%. And nobody notices because it's all become normalized procedure. It's the "Rules". As long as they follow the "rules" they're doing it okay. (Notice how with both the Accident Helo PAT32 and the one the night before PAT11 the ATC took pains to carefully insure the Helicopters were operating under "VFR" so nothing would be his fault, when somebody inevitably fucked up.). And as time went on the traffic just kept getting higher and higher. Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick until finally KABOOM
 
Your analysis is good. But really since about 5 minutes into this thing the solution set is one of:
  1. Annoy powerful people by closing or severely restricting air ops at JBAB
  2. Annoy powerful people by closing or severely restricting air ops at DCA
This is going to force the irresistible force to meet the immovable object. This might just result in a big old clunk and everything goes back into the holding pattern of before. Or not. It'll be interesting to see.
I'm willing to bet Runway 33 is never re-opening. And that Helicopter Corridor is closed or moved way way downriver someplace.
 
Special rules were made to keep a cramped and deficient airport, that happens to be close and convenient to the rich and powerful, open. Further special rules are made to keep using the old short outdated and dangerous runway open to absorb some of the ever increasing traffic flow. Even though it should have been shut down years ago. Yet another separate exception is made to create a low altitude government and military helicopter corridor to cross the Potomac right there. Because the base that handles all the VIP ferry service is right there across the river. All individual exceptions to good safe practice. Made to allow a Legacy facility to keep functioning. And individually none are inherently dangerous. But the way they interact dials the risk up to 120%. And nobody notices because it's all become normalized procedure. It's the "Rules". As long as they follow the "rules" they're doing it okay. (Notice how with both the Accident Helo PAT32 and the one the night before PAT11 the ATC took pains to carefully insure the Helicopters were operating under "VFR" so nothing would be his fault, when somebody inevitably fucked up.). And as time went on the traffic just kept getting higher and higher. Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick until finally KABOOM
You know this is a great allegory to a lot of things happening in modern society, from our decaying infrastructure to increasing populations of urban cities despite the inability for society to keep up with resource demands.
 
I'm willing to bet Runway 33 is never re-opening. And that Helicopter Corridor is closed or moved way way downriver someplace.
Not a bad compromise - I genuinely like it - but you just pissed everyone off. The middlin' reduction in capacity might mean a critter doesn't get their nonstop to Pocatello and then you'll be hit with earmarked funds saying open it the fuck back up.

Trump is playing along with the reduction in helicopters right now but someday someone from DHS/DoD will go 'You know what a CoG mission means, right?" and push back on restrictions. And without modifying the heli missions closing 33 won't really get you out of your low separation concern.

My concern is that someone's going to have to go full Daly with pavement ripping bulldozers in the night to get anything to stick. Could be wrong.
 
Sounds like a standard normalization of deviation. 200 feet of real separation would have been fine. But hey, ATC isn't actually yelling at us if we're at 300 so I guess that's fine, eventually they just sort of sneak up to 400 and eventually hit someone.

Would be interesting to pull the available track data over time and see if that's what's happened.
 
Special rules were made to keep a cramped and deficient airport, that happens to be close and convenient to the rich and powerful, open. Further special rules are made to keep using the old short outdated and dangerous runway open to absorb some of the ever increasing traffic flow. Even though it should have been shut down years ago. Yet another separate exception is made to create a low altitude government and military helicopter corridor to cross the Potomac right there. Because the base that handles all the VIP ferry service is right there across the river. All individual exceptions to good safe practice. Made to allow a Legacy facility to keep functioning. And individually none are inherently dangerous. But the way they interact dials the risk up to 120%. And nobody notices because it's all become normalized procedure. It's the "Rules". As long as they follow the "rules" they're doing it okay. (Notice how with both the Accident Helo PAT32 and the one the night before PAT11 the ATC took pains to carefully insure the Helicopters were operating under "VFR" so nothing would be his fault, when somebody inevitably fucked up.). And as time went on the traffic just kept getting higher and higher. Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick until finally KABOOM
How does having a cramped airport cause lax enforcement of the flight ceiling?

The landing path to runway 33 is tighter, with less wiggle room, but the accident wouldn't happen if the helicopter didn't violate the flight ceiling. Maintaining enforcement of rules and not lowering expectations would have prevented this collision.
 
How does having a cramped airport cause lax enforcement of the flight ceiling?

The landing path to runway 33 is tighter, with less wiggle room, but the accident wouldn't happen if the helicopter didn't violate the flight ceiling. Maintaining enforcement of rules and not lowering expectations would have prevented this collision.
The margin of error and safety in that flight ceiling was way too low. The helicopter got marginally off course disaster. A plane is marginally off ideal profile on approach to a runway THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GLIDEPATH!!!! Disaster. Following the Flight ceiling is meaningless when the actual stated flight ceiling is beyond idiotic and well into absurdly dangerous. Most of Aviation wants 1000' vertical separation if not 2000' for safety. Not a margin of safety that is roughly 2x the actual height of an airliner.
 
THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GLIDEPATH!!!!
Huh?
RWY 33:
Visual Glide Slope: 4-Light PAPI on LEFT side of Runway

The 04 and 22 PAPI are out but there's no NOTAM for 33.
And if you intercept outside CROFT you should be able to follow the RNAV as LPV for advisory guidance. Might be the visual circle/sidestep puts you in too close for the FMS to allow it though.
 
The margin of error and safety in that flight ceiling was way too low. The helicopter got marginally off course disaster. A plane is marginally off ideal profile on approach to a runway THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GLIDEPATH!!!! Disaster. Following the Flight ceiling is meaningless when the actual stated flight ceiling is beyond idiotic and well into absurdly dangerous. Most of Aviation wants 1000' vertical separation if not 2000' for safety.
"Marginally off ideal"! It was an altitude deviation (level bust). You can lose your license for busting. If every pilot who busted at DC lost their license this collision would not have happened. A 200ft altitude deviation in a helicopter is absurd, especially near a busy civilian airport.
Not a margin of safety that is roughly 2x the actual height of an airliner.
Yet, the airliner wasn't the one busting out of it's flight corridor.

Why are there such low expectations and lax enforcement of rules?
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