US Trump to Hit Canada, Mexico With 25% Tariffs on Saturday - Canada, Mexico tariffs threaten to upend auto, energy sectors.

President Donald Trump said he would follow through on his threat to impose 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico on Feb. 1, citing the flow of fentanyl and large trade deficits as among the reasons for his decision.

“We’ll be announcing the tariffs on Canada and Mexico for a number of reasons,” Trump told reporters Thursday in the Oval Office as he signed executive actions in response to a deadly airplane collision.

“Number one is the people that have poured into our country so horribly and so much. Number two are the drugs, fentanyl and everything else that have come into the country. Number three are the massive subsidies that we’re giving to Canada and to Mexico in the form of deficits,” he said.

West Texas Intermediate oil futures climbed above $73 a barrel following the comments. The US dollar wiped out an earlier loss to touch the day’s high after the remarks, while the Canadian dollar and Mexican peso both plunged. US Treasuries pared their gains.

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US President Donald Trump
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Trump indicated the 25% rate could represent a floor, saying that the tariff levels “may or may not rise with time.”

But the US president did suggest he was still considering if one significant import — oil — would be exempted. Trump said would be making a determination as soon as Thursday evening, basing his decision upon the price of oil.

“We don’t need the products that they have. We have all the oil that you need. We have all the trees you need,” Trump added, referring to major imports from Canada.

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Trump’s move was closely anticipated by markets as well as global business and political leaders who have scrutinized his words and actions for any indication on whether the US president would deliver on his levy threats or use them as the starting point for negotiations on trade.
Trump in recent days threatened and then pulled back on tariffs against Colombia in a dispute over deportations of undocumented migrants, leading some to speculate that he was using trade levies merely as leverage to seek policy concessions.

China Tariffs​

Trump also indicated that he would proceed with tariffs on China. He didn’t specify the levy, though he’s previously said it would be 10%. Trump has said Beijing failed to follow through on promises to prevent fentanyl and the chemicals used to make the deadly drugs from flowing into the US.

“With China, I’m also thinking about something because they’re sending fentanyl into our country, and because of that, they’re causing us hundreds of thousands of deaths,” Trump said Thursday. “So China is going to end up paying a tariff also for that, and we’re in the process of doing that.”

Trump has ordered his administration to investigate whether China complied with a trade deal struck during his first term, setting the stage for tariffs against the world’s second largest economy.

Following through on tariffs against Canada and Mexico, who are US neighbors, major trading partners, and export markets, threatens to have dramatic economic consequences, rattle markets and potentially launch a trade war by undermining protections from a three-nation free trade agreement.

Both countries have pledged to respond to any trade levies, including with retaliatory tariffs, even as their leaders sought to assure the US they were addressing border concerns in a bid to defuse the conflict.

“If these tariffs go into effect, Canada will respond,” Canadian Ambassador to the US Kirsten Hillman said Thursday. “This is not something that we want to do. We do not want to get into a tariff-back-and-forth with the United States. It’s not good for Canada, Canadians and Canadian workers and it’s not good for the United States, Americans and American workers.”

Hillman said that Canada has responded to Trump’s concerns about the border by clamping down and announcing new security measures, including added drones and helicopters.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort even before the president was inaugurated in a bid to ease tensions between their nations, and Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum spoke to Trump to try to avert the levies.

In the first 11 months of 2024, US trade with Canada totaled $699 billion and $776 billion with Mexico. And the magnitude of tariffs Trump will enact could have stark impacts on particular industries, such as the auto industry and the energy sector. Shares of US automakers Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. turned negative on the announcement, erasing earlier gains.

“President Trump’s tariffs will tax America first,” Matthew Holmes, executive vice president at the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said Thursday.

“From higher costs at the pumps, grocery stores and online checkout, tariffs cascade through the economy and end up hurting consumers and businesses on both sides of the border. This is a lose-lose.”

Further Levies​

Trump is also promising sectoral tariffs, such as on pharmaceuticals, semiconductor chips, steel, aluminum and copper, which could apply widely to many countries, including Canada and Mexico.

The US president is an avowed believer in tariffs, saying they will force a renaissance in domestic manufacturing, though industry groups warn that it will upend supply chains and endanger existing factories by raising costs of source materials.

He’s hailed tariffs as a source of revenue as lawmakers move to renew and expand expiring tax cuts and approve other credits and benefits the president promised on the campaign trail. Trump wants to reduce the corporate rate to 15% for firms that manufacture goods in the US, compared to the current 21% rate.

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Nope. Historically, people like Chris Hedges and other liberals slagged NAFTA, while it was Reagan's team that proposed it in the first place. So tearing NAFTA apart with tariffs against Canada and Mexico is exactly something that a liberal from the 2000s would do. They were protectionists back then. Infanticide and sabotaging the War on Terror were just a few of their positions.

Why am I not surprised that Trump fans are historically illiterate?


Yes. Especially since the Indians will be brought in legally, with the blessing of Trump's allies, so if Homan goes after them, Elon can tell Trump that Homan is wasting time going after legally-imported migrants as opposed to illegals from south of the border who are drug dealers and psychos harming Americans. Then Trump fires Homan.

It literally is Elon's job to suggest to Trump which federal official or department needs to get downsized. So if anyone in the government opposes him, he can easily tell Trump that said miscreant isn't doing their job, and they should either get fired or get starved of funds. Only Trump can stand up to Elon at this point, and it doesn't seem like he will.
My pointing out it being an attempt at reverse psychology wasn't a dismissal of the info presented, but wondering if trying to associate Trump's actions as being liberal was an attempt to turn conservatives here against it. I get that you feel that you might be personally affected by this and thus voice your displeasure, but do you need to be such a negative nancy? Hope for the best when things are out of your control rather than try to map out the worst case scenario to justify your anger.
 
My pointing out it being an attempt at reverse psychology wasn't a dismissal of the info presented, but wondering if trying to associate Trump's actions as being liberal was an attempt to turn conservatives here against it. I get that you feel that you might be personally affected by this and thus voice your displeasure, but do you need to be such a negative nancy? Hope for the best when things are out of your control rather than try to map out the worst case scenario to justify your anger.
No. In fact, it's just me pointing out the truth; that Trump's policies are a complete 180 against Reagan's policies, and how weird it is that he's basically taking a page from Christopher Hedges' playbook of slagging NAFTA. That's the kind of shit I'd expect from a 2000s liberal to do, not a Reaganite "Make America Great Again" -type. Especially since the 80s' MAGA-types were all for less tariffs and more free trade, which is the opposite of what Trump is doing today.

I'm not angry; I'm sad. Trump is doing the exact opposite of the conservative playbook. If he wanted to secure the borders, garrisoning the Mexican border with the army and telling them to turn away anyone without proper paperwork will suffice.

As for Canada, Trump could easily offer Canadians cheaper housing in the USA's conservative states, which would hurt Canada's economy as more potential workers and taxpayers leave them, especially since property prices in Canada are complete ass. It would also have the eventual effect of driving down property prices in Canada as demand drops, so even the Canadians who stay at home would benefit eventually. That would make Trump a hero to many Canadians struggling to pay for their homes, as well as humiliate Trudeau on the international stage, instead of giving the Canadian people something to be proud of him for.
 
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Once we re-shore the auto sektur from Canada they wont have any industry left. Most of their pipelines face the USA and they don't even have enough refining capacity to supply themselves. Their main import is our Ag so they can't even feed themselves. And their total GDP is less then New York State. Its gonna be an easy kill
Where did this meme that Canada doesn't have enough refining capacity for itself come from? It's just not true based on literally anything I can find anywhere. Same thing with the Ag imports, Canada produces a ton of grains and meat, that's what food we export mostly, and since the problem is that our grain and meat is less profitable to export, feeding ourselves is never going to be a problem. The only thing we can't grow is fruits and vegetables in the winter, which sucks, but isn't going to break the nation.

The biggest exports from Canada is metals, raw materials like lumber and oil, meat/grain, and tools and heavy machinery; all of which we can use in Canada and would be better for the average Canadian if the price dropped on those items. It would be better for Canadians if exploiting our own resources in our own factories was the default option as it would create more jobs for Canadians. It's been very weird that the Americans have simultaneously been arguing that growing domestic manufacturing and self-reliance in America is more important than free-trade, and then when the door to massively increased domestic manufacturing and self reliance in Canada is forced open by Trump the response is "oy vey your GDP is gonna go down, think of the investors goyim, think of the GDP."

Literally the only arguments I've seen that the tariffs aren't good for Canada in the long-term directly assume that Canada needs to import food and raw materials to survive(lol), or that the most important thing to Canadians is growing and bolstering the profits for bankers and investors. I don't care about GDP, I want Canadian manufacturing to grow, I want Canada to be more self-sufficient, and I want the people in charge to worry less about what the rabbis obsessed with GDPs want, and more about how to create jobs and make life better for Canadians.
 
The biggest exports from Canada is metals, raw materials like lumber and oil, meat/grain, and tools and heavy machinery; all of which we can use in Canada and would be better for the average Canadian if the price dropped on those items. It would be better for Canadians if exploiting our own resources in our own factories was the default option as it would create more jobs for Canadians. It's been very weird that the Americans have simultaneously been arguing that growing domestic manufacturing and self-reliance in America is more important than free-trade, and then when the door to massively increased domestic manufacturing and self reliance in Canada is forced open by Trump the response is "oy vey your GDP is gonna go down, think of the investors goyim, think of the GDP."
Like I said, the tariffs won't hurt Canada or the other nations that much. All they need to do is to have more free trade with each other, and with other markets in Europe, Latin America, hell, China already has a healthy presence in Africa due to the Belt and Road Initiative, so they can just increase trade there. Only America will be hurt by the tariffs in the long run, because everyone will just continue free trade with each other while leaving America out.
 
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Canada does not have the infrastructure to trade via sea routes. They literally lack the capacity to due it and have a looming economic crisis from Trudeau’s tenure currently starting. Canada is more likely to have a civil war than beat the US in a trade war.

Their entire economy is based on the US. I only hope that Ontario and Quebec kill each other. British Colombia will have to be purged, but it is what it is.
 
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Canada does not have the infrastructure to trade via sea routes. They literally lack the capacity to due it and have a looming economic crisis from Trudeau’s tenure currently starting. Canada is more likely to have a civil war than beat the US in a trade war.

Their entire economy is based on the US. I only hope that Ontario and Quebec kill each other. British Colombia will have to be purged, but it is what it is.
Canada can easily develop an overseas trade network with the help of China or the Europeans. They can decouple from the US and have a few painful years, but eventually, it'll even out and work for them.
 
Nuevo Leon might end up becoming the 51st state because of this. Sheinbaum is such a retard Jew it's unreal.
 
Theoretical? It's already something Vivek and Elon proposed.
And it would be done legally, so Homan would have no jurisdiction there.
Homan's job would be to go after illegals. Vivek and Elon want to legally bring Indians here. That means he would have no legal power to prevent government officials legally facilitating the immigration of Indians.
So you admit that Homan wouldn't be going after them, so Trump wouldn't fire him, making your earlier arguments invalid.

Not to mention that the "jobs" that these tariffs would bring back are below minimum-wage jobs that Americans wouldn't take anyways; so who do you think will take them?
And now it's theoretical below minimum-wage jobs.

And since when does popular pressure matter? Trump's popular base supported Luigi Mangione and they all want a crack-down on corrupt health insurance companies, but Trump cries for Brian Thompson and calls Mangione supporters sickos. Trump will abandon his own base if it means sucking up to his oligarch overlords. Why else do you think he has another oligarch in charge of DOGE? If Trump bowed down to popular pressure, he'd pardon Luigi Mangione because most of his supporters would want him to, then he'd launch an inquisitio-er, investigation into the misdeeds of the American Health Insurance Industry.
Remember when he dropped Ramaswamy becau

Hold the fucking phone

No. In fact, it's just me pointing out the truth; that Trump's policies are a complete 180 against Reagan's policies, and how weird it is that he's basically taking a page from Christopher Hedges' playbook of slagging NAFTA.

I'm not angry; I'm sad. Trump is doing the exact opposite of the conservative playbook.
Reagan? The guy who gave amnesty to a shitload of illegals? So you have a problem when Trump (according to your fantasies) will import infini-jeets, but you have no problem with Reagan allowing a million plus beaners to set up shop. You're a fucking neo-con, never mind, I thought I was arguing with another human.

LMAO
 
We share a fucking land border with the USA. They were our primary trading partner for all of our resources. People heeing and hawing about "well just trade with china and europe" don't get how fucking expensive shipping that shit across the ocean will be compared to just fucking driving it for a day or two.
 
Reagan? The guy who gave amnesty to a shitload of illegals? So you have a problem when Trump (according to your fantasies) will import infini-jeets, but you have no problem with Reagan allowing a million plus beaners to set up shop. You're a fucking neo-con, never mind, I thought I was arguing with another human.
My only problem with Trump importing infinite Indians is that it flies in the face of him promising to deport illegals. It basically makes him a hypocrite.

I have no problems with Indians myself. It's the optics of this whole situation that stinks; the fact that Trump runs on a campaign to cut down on immigrants who steal American jobs, only for his allies to bring in more of them. Who will vote Republican in the future if that's how Republicans act?

We share a fucking land border with the USA. They were our primary trading partner for all of our resources. People heeing and hawing about "well just trade with china and europe" don't get how fucking expensive shipping that shit across the ocean will be compared to just fucking driving it for a day or two.
But if Trump makes trade with Canada a hassle, then yes, Canadians are willing to bite the bullet and develop a trade network with China and Europe.
 
We share a fucking land border with the USA. They were our primary trading partner for all of our resources. People heeing and hawing about "well just trade with china and europe" don't get how fucking expensive shipping that shit across the ocean will be compared to just fucking driving it for a day or two.
A day? Try a week or two for western Canada. About the same travel time as something overseas.
 
My only problem with Trump importing infinite Indians is that it flies in the face of him promising to deport illegals. It basically makes him a hypocrite.

I have no problems with Indians.


But if Trump makes trade with Canada a hassle, then yes, Canadians are willing to bite the bullet and develop a trade network with China and Europe.
No we aren't. Canada has repeatedly stopped attempts to connect energy pipelines to places like Japan and Europe because we had a cushy deal with the USA and we fucking knew it. It's what allowed us to do retarded performative environmentalism shit instead of actually investing in infra-structure.

We have no fucking cards here, and Trump knows that. Everyone knows that. Except the liberal government.
 
No we aren't. Canada has repeatedly stopped attempts to connect energy pipelines to places like Japan and Europe because we had a cushy deal with the USA and we fucking knew it. It's what allowed us to do retarded performative environmentalism shit instead of actually investing in infra-structure.

We have no fucking cards here, and Trump knows that. Everyone knows that. Except the liberal government.
You are thinking Canada has no choice but to capitulate to the US and become the 51st state or whatever Trump's demands are this hour. Other countries have adapted to worse circumstances, Canada can too.
 
But if Trump makes trade with Canada a hassle, then yes, Canadians are willing to bite the bullet and develop a trade network with China and Europe.
With what navy? It's only through the US Navy's dominance over the sea lanes that the oceans are safe to cross. Canada has a dozen heavily outdated frigates. All using American equipment. They would be fucked because at that point, they on their own nigga.
 
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You are thinking Canada has no choice but to capitulate to the US and become the 51st state or whatever Trump's demands are this hour. Other countries have adapted to worse circumstances, Canada can too.
It can’t even handle the current pajeets it has and is in an economic and housing crisis. The fuck you talking about, nigga?

The only thing leafs adapt at is taking pajeet cum loads.
 
You are thinking Canada has no choice but to capitulate to the US and become the 51st state or whatever Trump's demands are this hour. Other countries have adapted to worse circumstances, Canada can too.
Canadians have lived the easy life for a while and have been living in luxury a first world nation affords them.
theyd never make it if they had to live like a developing 2nd world nation.
they brag about their social welfare state, free healthcare and other things. Canadians wouldn’t survive a day without it.
edit: and they can barely afford to maintain their welfar state now as it is. If trump fucks them over economically they’re either gonna print money like Zimbabwe to try desperately to maintain it or they’re gonna have to get rid of it.
 
You are thinking Canada has no choice but to capitulate to the US and become the 51st state or whatever Trump's demands are this hour. Other countries have adapted to worse circumstances, Canada can too.
Canada has not prepared itself for this at all. If we had maybe we would have taken those offers to export our energy/oil/whatever and established our own pipelines. But we didn't. Because our government is arrogant.
It can’t even handle the current pajeets it has and is in an economic and housing crisis. The fuck you talking about, nigga?

The only thing leafs adapt at is taking pajeet cum loads.
This. We're still grappling with the retards in charge importing five million plus low skilled slave workers while letting our major industries die for environmental fee-fees. We were a fucking wreck BEFORE our largest trading partner decided to kick our feet out from under us.

And the saddest part? It was all so fucking easily avoidable. The things Trump wanted done in Canada were things Canadians wanted done. But our leaders are arrogant, because they get to leave unscathed with pensions and off-country property while we starve.
 
They have no military and a crippled economy pre tarrifs. Yeah man, they kinda do
Do what?

That can change real quick, you know. Trudeau is on his way out and even his successors have some plan to scale back or change his policies. Wringing your hands and cackling to yourselves how you are totally going to ruin us is only going to make us adapt.

You guys think we are some sort of welfare queen living off the US, but forget you are not the only show in town.
 
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