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Should be a wild four years.

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Ukraine is Big Gay said:
I'm gonna take the bait here.

Let's rewind back to 2015. What is your proposed 10 year plan using the circumstances at the time and the available resources with no alt history "If X or Y had ran" I mean working with the same contexts and situations knowing what you now know. What's the long game win condition there?

Not making a joke or being snide. I sincerely want to know at this point.
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It's literally just that the Gaza plan sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

People made fun of the Greenland plan and compare the two, but the Gaza plan is way dumber. With Greenland, you're taking an island right next to the USA that has immense strategic significance for its northern flank and lots of mineral wealth. Gaza is a fucking field of rubble inhabited by moon-worshipping morlock tunnel-niggers. It has no relevance to the agenda articulated by Trump during the election, an agenda of increasing isolation and a withdrawal from foreign entanglements. We're on track to cut $40 billion in USAID money-laundering from the budget, only now to go and spend it on foreign shores anyway to do whatever the fuck Trump wants to do with Gaza.

You could say its better to spend that money on anything other than USAID glowops, and I'd rather we not spend it at all but otherwise I'd largely agree. But of all the other things to spend that money on, the second worst possible thing would be spending it to entangle ourselves even further in Middle Eastern affairs. More US fighting men and contractors present, more opportunity for some shit to kick off and escalate. And what are they there to do? Build hotels and vacation homes for the people of Tel Aviv? Nothing that has anything to do with our country or the well-being of its people.

I've been loving the wins domestically. But you can't make me joke and act cheerful about my country being a golem internationally. Time will tell what comes of all this, but I struggle to see how this can be construed as a good thing for us. It seems more like the Zionists who backed him are cashing their check, which is fair enough. If the US helping to complete the ethnic cleansing of Gaza is the price for domestic sanity then so be it. But why are we the ones who have to rebuild Gaza? Israel is the one who blew it to smithereens. That on top of the golden pager, I can't even.
 
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Something interesting happened. I spend time on reddit to get a feel for the other side. Reddit wasn't always this way. I've been a member since comments first were added. One thing I've been doing is reporting calls for violence to the admins. Typically, this will get those accounts banned as it becomes a legal issue.

Then, without warning, I suddenly received a ban myself. I laughed. Figured some admin got pissed for the hundreds of accounts I had obliged them to permanently ban. And moved on. Today I randomly got a message. Turns out I won an appeal without having to appeal. In fact, I appear to have been manually unbanned.

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Did some rogue admin, after his employer received pressure from the DoJ, go rogue and started banning users who reported calls to violence?
 
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The Blue Morpho said:
Gaza is a fucking field of rubble inhabited by moon-worshipping morlock tunnel-niggers. It has no relevance to the agenda articulated by Trump during the election, an agenda of increasing isolation and a withdrawal from foreign entanglements.
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What about if we could deter Iran ourselves without sharing military technology with Israel?

That’s not even a huge selling point for me because I legit believe that Iran is on the verge of collapse if democrats don’t have the avenues to illicitly fund them, but I’m just trying to think of an angle where occupying Gaza would have a tangible benefit
 
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Something interesting happened. I spend time on reddit to get a feel for the other side. Reddit wasn't always this way. I've been a member since comments first were added. One thing I've been doing is reporting calls for violence to the admins. Typically, this will get those accounts banned as it becomes a legal issue.

Then, without warning, I suddenly received a ban myself. I laughed. Figured some admin got pissed for the hundreds of accounts I had obliged them to permanently ban. And moved on. Today I randomly got a message. Turns out I won an appeal without having to appeal. In fact, I appear to have been manually unbanned.

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Funny thing. I recently had a comment removed automatically by admins for "threatening violence". All I said was I hope a Russian who is ddosing arma servers gets conscripted and it stops. That's it, absolutely not threatening at all. This was automated, I appealed it. Haven't heard back. If they have an automated system to detect threatening violence, why are all of these comments still up and not just being automatically removed? Quite odd don't you think
 
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John Shedletsky said:
Apparently we got hit with a weather warning over at my State. Now I'm genuinely curious to see if anyone is willing to stand in this cold weather, lmfao.
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It's a pretty routine winter where I'm at. I go outside in a short sleeve all the time. Not for very long, but I'm used to it.

Also, the news is boring today. It's all sperging about Elon Musk (which explains our current thread guest), calling Trump unconstitutional (yawn), or reacting to the Gaza comments last night.
 
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The Blue Morpho said:
I've been loving the wins domestically. But you can't make me joke and act cheerful about my country being a golem internationally. Time will tell what comes of all this, but I struggle to see how this can be construed as a good thing for us. It seems more like the Zionists who backed him are cashing their check, which is fair enough. If the US helping to complete the ethnic cleansing of Gaza is the price for domestic sanity then so be it. But why are we the ones who have to rebuild Gaza? Israel is the one who blew it to smithereens. That on top of the golden pager, I can't even.
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Well here's the thing: Do you think Trump is also going to convert Canada into the 51st State of the US? The answer is obvious: No. It's just another thing he does where he demands something extravagant, to open up negotiations to get what he actually wants. If we're going to be 100% realistic here: We're not going to take the Gaza strip as U.S. territory. What the strategy entails, I have no clue. Maybe find better negotiation deals to stop the war going on in Israel? He is right now in talks with Iran too, so maybe he's trying to kill two birds with one stone? It's hard to tell. But I really don't think we will take the strip.

Note: Even I was taken back from this decision, but it is clear that he's trying to negotiate for something.
 
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curbside2 said:
Something interesting happened. I spend time on reddit to get a feel for the other side. Reddit wasn't always this way. I've been a member since comments first were added. One thing I've been doing is reporting calls for violence to the admins. Typically, this will get those accounts banned as it becomes a legal issue.

Then, without warning, I suddenly received a ban myself. I laughed. Figured some admin got pissed for the hundreds of accounts I had obliged them to permanently ban. And moved on. Today I randomly got a message. Turns out I won an appeal without having to appeal. In fact, I appear to have been manually unbanned.

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Did some rogue admin, after his employer received pressure from the DoJ, go rogue and started banning users who reported calls to violence?
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Did Trump and musk really break reddit.....that's....I know he's doing wild shit but man, thYs fuckin incredible
 
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The Blue Morpho said:
It's literally just that the Gaza plan sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
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No argument here from me on that front besides "Who fucking knows" with the current guy's trajectories as I can't tell his bluffs from his charges sometimes.

But also not what I'm asking and not to who I'm asking it.
I actually want to hear an articulated position so I can be fair and assume someone's jew-doom-jew mental flowchart is something with more thought put into it at the end of the day than

>Post that it's all over no matter the choices presented
>Post I told you so when anything happens
>Repeat

If the mental labor were put in and considerations made within the realm of possibility I'd at least respect it.
What is the optimal time line and actions to take that would be realistically implementable from 2015 to now that would have been better than the Trump timeline? How do we avoid the dealbreaker/buckbreaker here in your worldview?

If it's important to em, it should have been considered in detail.
If it were considered - It should be at least explainable.
 
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