Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

My favorite part about KF is the hypocrisy.

The average user bitches about how the world is stifling their viewpoint and free discussion is dead, but the moment a thread exists that doesn't support you then REEEE. Every user always finds that one thread that makes them lose their shit. It's happened to me before, and it won't be the last. Hilarious when it happens to someone else.

The thread where we laugh at Trump supporters has at least one elderly, obese, senile conman fetishist come in nearly every day and spaz out because we're laughing at him and them. It seems every thread has something similar. It used to be a permabannable offense, too (I think technically it still is)

 

[keep em' comin]

Whats even more funny is that all of Trumps picks are all DEI style hires.

its called nepotism lol

My favorite part about KF is the hypocrisy.

The average user bitches about how the world is stifling their viewpoint and free discussion is dead, but the moment a thread exists that doesn't support you then REEEE. Every user always finds that one thread that makes them lose their shit. It's happened to me before, and it won't be the last. Hilarious when it happens to someone else.

I agree with this, the bias is so extreme that random twitter users who did barely anything (not exaggerating all they did was be annoying on twitter), have the "horrorcow" tag and they did literally nothing to earn it, it was purely ideologically motivated.

 

[The Hardest R]

My favorite part about KF is the hypocrisy.

The average user bitches about how the world is stifling their viewpoint and free discussion is dead, but the moment a thread exists that doesn't support you then REEEE. Every user always finds that one thread that makes them lose their shit. It's happened to me before, and it won't be the last. Hilarious when it happens to someone else.

Very few people are actually in favor of free speech. It just means freedom to say whatever they want but not for their opponents. Elon was considered a free speech advocate until people started making fun of him on Xitter.

 

[BlackDragoons]

My favorite part about KF is the hypocrisy.

The average user bitches about how the world is stifling their viewpoint and free discussion is dead, but the moment a thread exists that doesn't support you then REEEE. Every user always finds that one thread that makes them lose their shit. It's happened to me before, and it won't be the last. Hilarious when it happens to someone else.

I've been a firm believer that all presidents are up for mocking. I remember back in the 2000s where you can mock Presidents and everyone just laughed.

Nowadays both sides are guilty of worshipping old men.

 

[Trombonista]

If Trump starts loudly and angrily defending Musk and his actions, I just might unlock his lolcow thread.

Edit: It depends on how much Trump spazzes out, though. One Truth Social post is not enough.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I agree with this, the bias is so extreme that random twitter users who did barely anything (not exaggerating all they did was be annoying on twitter), have the "horrorcow" tag and they did literally nothing to earn it, it was purely ideologically motivated.

Yeah and some people who say mildly disagreeable opinions except have lots of followers are labeled lolcows

Anyway back to Elon

I'd say he's pandering but given the mentally deranged autist he is, Elon thinks he is leading a revolution, yes because nothing says revolution by being the top donor of the president and gallivanting to do whatever you want with your child army



>Helping people

Says the guy who actively wants economic hardship and to fuck over regular people for yourself. Pot calling kettle black as the expression goes

 

[keep em' comin]

Yeah and some people who say mildly disagreeable opinions except have lots of followers are labeled lolcows

Anyway back to Elon

I'd say he's pandering but given the mentally deranged autist he is, Elon thinks he is leading a revolution, yes because nothing says revolution by being the top donor of the president and gallivanting to do whatever you want with your child army

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>Helping people

Says the guy who actively wants economic hardship and to fuck over regular people for yourself. Pot calling kettle black as the expression goes

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Elon became the true reddit revolution, that is the funniest part tbh.

 

[Mukhrani]

I assume things like Solar Radiation Modification (which for those not in the know, means artifical cooling of the planet by e.g. spraying reflective aerosols into the uper stratosphere so that the heat coming from the sun will be reflected back into space) Marine cloud brightening etc. are the most likely measures that will be taken. They might not even be that expensive and guranteed cheaper than just riding it out and swallowing the costs of the damages.

It's not entirely hopeless but nobody really knows what will happen or what effects this geoengineering could have in turn, as all this is highly theoretical (even controversial, for every study that proposes a method, there exists another study that says it won't work) and there's simply no real widespread experience with technologies like this, and as we all know politicans don't exactly care much about solving things that will come up after they're gone, so you can assume a lot of this stuff will be attempted last minute and in a panicked, rushed way, when it's basically too late and most of the damage is already done.

More than almost anything, the idea of one of these tech retards trying some harebrained scheme like this keeps me up at night. There are so many small, minute details of how nature works that we're still exploring and completely unsure of - I read some recent research about the influence of far infrared light on plant growth that was quite interesting and which experts are still exploring. This sort of thing has influence on all kinds of critical things like, I don't know, crop yields and basic nutrition. Sunlight is one of those baseline inputs that affects almost everything on Earth. Ocean currents, atmospheric patterns, plant communities, animal communities, phytoplankton - something as simple as tweaking overall light input, or even which wavelengths make it through, could upend any or all such system with completely unforeseeable consequences that could easily eclipse global warming in destructive potential.

To quote Robert Bolt, someone like Elon is 'just the man do it'. He has that sort of arrogant, sweeping vision that completely disdains those small , easily overlooked details which can bring the grandest plan crashing back to earth.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

On a different note, all the Elon and Trump ballwashers talk about all the things they accomplished by reforming government agencies, but from what I've seen it's only notorious liars saying they accomplished a lot without ever showing even a shred of evidence beyond vandalized websites

One of my big issues with how politics has become so "mainstream" for lack of a better term is it's basically turned into yet another fandom. People don't really care about what their fandom produces, they'll just blindly defend it/attack whatever fandoms clash with it.

I think reforming the government is a good idea, but it's also something that is incredibly complex and requires a lot of time and energy to get meaningful results. Like, I think a president could arguably spend his first term with the main focus being government reform and they could make some solid progress at the end of those 4 years, but even if a miracle happens and there were no real global incidents or other distractions and the party had a supermajority willing to work with them, I don't know if a single term would be enough to really fix things. Maybe not even two terms. Again, progress would be made and hopefully it'd set up the building blocks that the next government would take and continue making progress, but it's not a simple that gets done in a month or two.

But fandoms don't like playing the long game. Normally with a fandom, whenever there's a new episode/product/movie/whatever released, they have to talk about how great it is and how it's so much better than XYZ. Problem is, with politics, every day there's essentially a new product coming out, so there has to be a constant stream of immediate validation, so the fandom takes whatever it can and runs with it instead of recognizing that actual reform takes years and people with actual experience behind the wheel. It's one of the big issues with Musk being so deeply ingrained in internet culture.

You can really tell how brainrot has effected Musk. I was never a big fan of him to begin with and thought his goals were pretty lofty, but compare early Musk talking about Mars and having a still optimistic timeline in place, but way more realistic than anything he's talked about today. I think it was back in 2010 he was saying stuff like by 2050, we'll have a colony on Mars. Even just getting people to Mars I think he gave like a 20-30 year estimate. But now, it feels like he's always talking about "day 1 changes" or promising impossible things like cutting debt by 2 trillion in a single year, or acting like with a few college techbros and a couple of "long hour" weeks they can completely fix the government.

I guess the TLDR is basically that Musk is farming for upvotes with his government procedure instead of actually doing the work.

 

[Blamo2000]

One of my big issues with how politics has become so "mainstream" for lack of a better term is it's basically turned into yet another fandom. People don't really care about what their fandom produces, they'll just blindly defend it/attack whatever fandoms clash with it.

100% this.

People pick a team, then just mindlessly support it, sometimes they just start to believe the fanon and ignore reality. The fact that media shaped people into thinking there always needs to be some dramatic happening is a good primer for online folks acting overly dramatical and performative. I blame social media in general.

The most interesting part is when you can clearly see that they support one side because it makes the other mad. Your guy could ruin everything, but as long the people you dislike are angry about it then it is winning.

The grifter industrial complex doesn't help either, they build up hype, sell hopium and just keep you in the game.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I think reforming the government is a good idea, but it's also something that is incredibly complex and requires a lot of time and energy to get meaningful results. Like, I think a president could arguably spend his first term with the main focus being government reform and they could make some solid progress at the end of those 4 years, but even if a miracle happens and there were no real global incidents or other distractions and the party had a supermajority willing to work with them, I don't know if a single term would be enough to really fix things. Maybe not even two terms. Again, progress would be made and hopefully it'd set up the building blocks that the next government would take and continue making progress, but it's not a simple that gets done in a month or two.

It also requires someone principled, dignified, and matured... Pretty much anyone that isn't an autistic manchild that gets pissy that people make fun of his gaming track record or a guy who whines about SNL making fun of them.

It doesn't help that in America, all the serious people that actually want to help are sidelined in favor of clowns

 

[Blamo2000]

Very few people are actually in favor of free speech. It just means freedom to say whatever they want but not for their opponents. Elon was considered a free speech advocate until people started making fun of him on Xitter.

Yeah, that's pretty much the truth. Unfortunately the vast majority of people just want Stalin but one that Gulags the people they dislike.

I think the old libertarian-ish platforms were the best in this case because they simply didn't care. They just needed users and content, unless you posted something blatantly illegal, they had zero fucks to give about you. There was no/little editorializing. Of course the Eye of Sauron was not watching the platforms as closely yet, and the user base was less insane.

It also requires someone principled, dignified, and matured... Pretty much anyone that isn't an autistic manchild that gets pissy that people make fun of his gaming track record or a guy who whines about SNL making fun of them.

It doesn't help that in America, all the serious people that actually want to help are sidelined in favor of clowns

I would say it would require a massive interdisciplinary effort, just to really understand the system and where the waste is and how to improve the processes. We are talking about possibly the most complex bureaucracy on the world which not only has all citizens, aliens, corporations etc. in the USA as stake holders, but like a big chunk of the world as well.

I think even defining the goals in themselves is difficult. What is waste? Do we really want to cut all the jobs which are keeping millions employed when technological unemployment is around the corner and we don't have jobs or welfare for them etc.? How do you even set KPIs for things that only exist to serve the public? How can you ensure the KPIs won't just get abused? etc.

Sure, you can cut some programs like the DEI/BRIDGE stuff, but otherwise you are just kicking the machine that you don't really understand the workings of. The "let's just cut the government down" people act like, you could take a computer program, delete 80% of the source code and just expect it to work.

Let's not forget how captured the establishment is by big tech, so the solutions will be "just use my AI system bro", "just outsource the functions to my friends bro."

 

[World in Scarlet]

I think reforming the government is a good idea, but it's also something that is incredibly complex and requires a lot of time and energy to get meaningful results.

Yeah, if you review or write up procedures, you start by understanding why things are being done the way they are. Talk to the people who wrote the instructions, talk to the workers who use them, see what is actually implemented and what only exists on paper, and why that is the case. Ask for suggestions from those who do the actual work, and keep going back to them to check what they think the effects of potential changes might be to find unintended side effects before things go live.

Musk and his gaggle of amphetamine monkeys know nothing, they never even worked in any related field. They constantly lie and misrepresent how things are done on a basic level. They never ask the professionals, instead smearing them with lies and insulting them, cutting them out of the process and replacing them with incompetent ideologues.
They don't even tell the public what it is they're actually doing. How come? If they're doing such good, why hide it from the public?

How can anyone expect this process to yield beneficial results? At best it will be purely performative, at worst it's blindly pouring sand into the gears of extremely complicated and extremely important machines.

 

[Oxyjen]

Except. Once he gets to the DOJ, we really will be enjoying prison.

Oh

 

[Cyber Bowling]

The most interesting part is when you can clearly see that they support one side because it makes the other mad. Your guy could ruin everything, but as long the people you dislike are angry about it then it is winning.

For me, this is the worst part of political fandoms because it really makes it impossible to have a conversation. I understand the "troll" mentality, and I'm sure I've been guilty of it before, probably on this very forum at that. But that sort of pettiness should be reserved for unimportant subjects. I don't want huge (or even small for that matter) government decisions being made "for the lulz."

With Musk especially, it feels like a lot of his former critics completely forgot they used to mock him before he bought Twitter. And I think it was rightly deserved, even before recent events, Musk had a lot of cowish tendencies. And just imagine a world where Musk was doing these things under a Biden administration, they'd be (justifiably) up in arms calling for a Biden impeachment and Musk deportation.

 

[AmpleApricots]

There are so many small, minute details of how nature works that we're still exploring and completely unsure of - I read some recent research about the influence of far infrared light on plant growth that was quite interesting and which experts are still exploring.

It'd be better if governments still had control and oversight over these people, but at the point where these methods will be seriously considered (and they will be) my assumption is governments won't have much of a say in what billionaires want to do (even less than now) and even if, they'll be desperate and panicking and probably rubberstamp everything that just hints at promising relief. Nobody will be able to say at that point that nobody saw this coming though.

The most interesting part is when you can clearly see that they support one side because it makes the other mad. Your guy could ruin everything, but as long the people you dislike are angry about it then it is winning.

This is exactly what makes a country like the US so vulnerable to people like Musk. They know how to exploit it for their own purposes but the politicans in the west and on all sides have only themselves to blame. They've been enabling and encouraging this in their respective voter bases and populations for decades as a cheap tool to distract from systemic problems they could not or did not want to solve. They're literally reaping what they sew now. Worldwide.

You can not be a successful country when one half of the country is at all times ready to burn down the entire thing just to hurt the other half. Many people seem to have completely forgotten that politics is not a team sport, but that ideally, everyone follows the same goals for the betterment of all which coincidentally usually would be things that hurt these very parasitic corporations and billionaires that have been pouring oil into the fires for many years now. The rift in the US especially is so deep, I'm not sure it can ever be mended. Without some sort of dramatic and transformative event, I don't think the US will ever return to be the country many of us older people used to know. You should always remember that weak and greedy men have made all this possible, from both parties.

Compared to the fucking lunatic ass rape enthusiastic musk bots in the US Politics Thread v2.0, this thread is not that bad lol

kf had a massive influx of /pol/ (and similar sites) refugees in the last two years and it dropped the collective IQ of this website quite noticably. Be glad that they're mostly contained to A&N. I find it funny that many of them are instantly recognizable by pink join dates and anime avatars.

 

[Guntkvd]

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He keeps posting obviously insane stuff like this, but it doesn't stack even close to a half of a billion. Straight up bread and circuses for maga cattle.

 

[Blamo2000]

With Musk especially, it feels like a lot of his former critics completely forgot they used to mock him before he bought Twitter. And I think it was rightly deserved, even before recent events, Musk had a lot of cowish tendencies. And just imagine a world where Musk was doing these things under a Biden administration, they'd be (justifiably) up in arms calling for a Biden impeachment and Musk deportation.

Musk always had these megalomaniac tendencies about how his current gizmo of the now will save the world and whatnot. I remember the whole Boring company, Hyperloop nonsense. The media used to glaze him and amplify his stunts, like the Boring company flamethrower, shooting the Tesla Roadster into space etc. I think his attempt at staying a memelord and be a gamer is simply the same thing, but now the media is not playing along with him. In general he was the lord of the funkopop enjoying soyboys.

You are correct, things are so polarized, if Obama returned and did the exact same things he did, but run as a Republican they would just love him. lol I think the most unfortunate thing for US politics is that under Obama, cult of personality presidents became the norm. You cannot say bad things about the guy, because the other side will win.

For me, this is the worst part of political fandoms because it really makes it impossible to have a conversation. I understand the "troll" mentality, and I'm sure I've been guilty of it before, probably on this very forum at that. But that sort of pettiness should be reserved for unimportant subjects. I don't want huge (or even small for that matter) government decisions being made "for the lulz."

Call me a boomer, but discussing anything online is way harder now than it was 10-20 years ago. People actually could discuss things, even if they had opposing politics, religious views and whatnot. Sure, we had trolling and flame wars, but that's just human nature. Nowadays most discussions online are just trying to own the other side with maymays and getting upvotes from your side.

Not to mention, due to the nature of social media only the dramatic and larger than life voices will be heard, nobody will click on a sensible breakdown of an issue when you can have some e-celeb reading tweets. If anything sensible voices will be just labelled as shills.

This is exactly what makes a country like the US so vulnerable to people like Musk. They know how to exploit it for their own purposes but the politicans in the west and on all sides have only themselves to blame. They've been enabling and encouraging this in their respective voter bases and populations for decades as a cheap tool to distract from systemic problems they could not or did not want to solve. They're literally reaping what they sew now. Worldwide.

You can not be a successful country when one half of the country is at all times ready to burn down the entire thing just to hurt the other half. Many people seem to have completely forgotten that politics is not a team sport, but that ideally, everyone follows the same goals for the betterment of all which coincidentally usually would be things that hurt these very parasitic corporations and billionaires that have been pouring oil into the fires for many years now. The rift in the US especially is so deep, I'm not sure it can ever be mended. Without some sort of dramatic and transformative event, I don't think the US will ever return to be the country many of us older people used to know. You should always remember that weak and greedy men have made all this possible, from both parties.

It is a pretty global issue, entertain the citizenry with meaningless drama, while draining them of their money and benefits. Classic divide and conquer with a helping of death of civic participation.

 

[keep em' comin]

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The gilded age is blushing with how corrupt we are now.

 

[Standardized Profile]

One of my big issues with how politics has become so "mainstream" for lack of a better term is it's basically turned into yet another fandom. People don't really care about what their fandom produces, they'll just blindly defend it/attack whatever fandoms clash with it.

Trump Season 2 is the Star Trek Discovery of American presidencies.

I think even defining the goals in themselves is difficult. What is waste?

In the context of an agency, I'd say it's the inefficient execution of a Congressionally authorized or Presidentially directed program. In the PEPFAR example, that might mean overpaying for HIV medications or unnecessary travel expenses. There are oversight mechanisms to reduce that kind of waste, inspectors general, GAO, and oversight committees, but government is very big and a lot can slip through the cracks before it's caught.

In a broader context, waste might be the mere existence of that program. While some programs may be objectively wasteful, this is usually a political position. "Giving antiretrovirals to Africa is a waste of money" is a political opinion. This is something for the legislature to work out.

Musk is having it both ways but has not arrived at a solution for either. Waste is the fault of the lazy, stupid workers who aren't giving us our money's worth. We should fire them and replace them with an AI. But waste is also the programs those lazy, stupid workers are administering. We should fire them and not replace them, ending the programs by fait accompli. That seems to be his solution for everything. Not lobby Congress for change, or even "take these people with collective millennia of highly-specialized experience and find something more productive for them to work on," just toss 'em out on the street. To me, that's pretty wasteful.