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It reads like they are hiring Routers to do active social engineering defense AGAINST large scale social deception (aka deboonking "russian bots" and other "fake news" while providing a "factual narrative").
Now that I'm looking again I think you're right, it threw me off that they parenthetically inserted the abbreviation in the middle, but this is one item, there's no punctuation there. So yeah, they're not actually that on the nose about it.
 
Now that I'm looking again I think you're right, it threw me off that they parenthetically inserted the abbreviation in the middle, but this is one item, there's no punctuation there. So yeah, they're not actually that on the nose about it.
How is it not on the nose? Social Engineering against something is still social engineering. It doesn't matter if you can spin it positively or negatively
 
How is it not on the nose? Social Engineering against something is still social engineering. It doesn't matter if you can spin it positively or negatively
I think it’s funny how everyone acts like Russians are masters of propaganda instead of “the US defense/intelligence community has been agitating Russia as a means to maintain promotions during peacetime for 40 years”

I mean fucking Poland has the Witcher and cyberpunk as cultural contributions.. the last stupid game I played that was made in Russia was a King’s Bounty rehash that was worse than the Sega original and basically a flip of stolen Warcraft assets
 
Gonna have to disagree with this. The United States forest service is arguably one of the most positive and useful federal government departments. They consistently release helpful and comprehensive educational materials related to various different species of woods and the engineering properties of wood in construction.


I'm fine with my tax dollars going toward an organization which provides benefits directly to the public and enables and encourages them to succeed. The people who worked on this stuff have genuinely benefited most Americans living in New construction.

Edit: and yes that is 500 pages of wood facts.
Yet another program we can look back and thank Teddy for. Hands-down one of the greatest if not the greatest in our nation's history. He put every aspect of the country first; its people, and its natural beauty. You also have him to thank for your local Conservation Corps. Those random tree planters lining your sidewalks and parking lots? Teddy.

I don't know exactly which presidents Trump has taken inspiration from, but I hope Roosevelt was one of them. When it comes to his immigration and foreign policy I'm reminded a great deal of what I had read of him. If you're going to be here, you put us first and make us the best on the planet.

Hell, Trump was even shot on stage like Teddy
 
How is it not on the nose? Social Engineering against something is still social engineering. It doesn't matter if you can spin it positively or negatively
Absolutely still objectionable, but there isn't literally an expenditure just for Large Scale Social Deception. They're justifying it as a defense against Deception. It was funny when I thought LSD was its own item but reality isn't quite that based.
the last stupid game I played that was made in Russia was a King’s Bounty rehash that was worse than the Sega original and basically a flip of stolen Warcraft assets
Russians are overrepresented in the modding scene for a lot of (American) 90s PC games. Not that that disproves your point about their lack of soft power...
I don't know exactly which presidents Trump has taken inspiration from, but I hope Roosevelt was one of them. When it comes to his immigration and foreign policy I'm reminded a great deal of what I had read of him. If you're going to be here, you put us first and make us the best on the planet.
WWI destroyed Roosevelt, personally and symbolically. TR loved war. He thought it would forge the new American race (minus blacks, he considered them unassimilable). If you read his memoir of his experience in the Spanish-American War, he resigns a high ranking administration job to go personally, he sees people shot right in front of him by snipers hiding in trees, he has to watch his men languishing with fever long after the fighting is over (I think the majority of Rough Rider casualties), and worst of all, no one even gets to ride their horses because the war takes place in a fucking jungle on an island (Teddy brings his anyway). But it sure sounds like he loves every minute, he sounds like a genuine psychopath, in a good way (maybe).

But then he loses his son in WWI, and by all accounts from that point on he's a shell of his former self. But it's very clear that whatever his personal stakes, war isn't fun anymore. WWI is grinding trench warfare, it's shell shock, it's getting gassed by novel chemical weapons. I think it's maybe the lunatic end point of Napoleon's innovations, but if Napoleon was the beginning of the end for glorious war, WWI puts it entirely to rest. This is symbolic of many ways in which modern society could not accommodate a Teddy Roosevelt, he simply would not fit into our times. It's unbearably sad and completely inevitable.

Anyway, no Trump is not modeling himself on TR, at least not in any way you should credit. TR got an asthma diagnosis and spent the rest of his life proving that it could literally not stop him from doing a single thing, and bullied his way into danger. No one should be chastised for not living up to that, but I'm not going to hear anyone compared to him if they avoided the military, unless it was because their country was at peace so they signed up as a mercenary in Africa instead.
 
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Absolutely still objectionable, but there isn't literally an expenditure just for Large Scale Social Deception. They're justifying it as a defense against Deception. It was funny when I thought LSD was its own item but reality isn't quite that based.
“Counter deception deception”

You have to be as retarded as a leftist not to be able to read between the lines
 
Japan has always been a bit abrasive towards foreigners. "No foreigners allowed" has been a popular sign on establishments since at least the late 90s.
To be fair, these are more often than not actually "no non-Japanese speakers" signs.

Japan takes their service industry very seriously and if you don't speak Japanese they can't provide good service. They can't answer your questions, they can't even understand your questions, and if a problem comes up they have no way of fixing it.

I've known people who live in Japan as foreigners and went to enter a store with one of those signs a few years ago and when the owner basically gestured for them to go away as they're white. They apologized in Japanese and excused themselves only for the owner to go "oh you speak Japanese? come in, come in"

In the eighties it might not have been that way, but at least in some areas so long as you can communicate and are polite they don't care as much if at all.
 
It reads like they are hiring Routers to do active social engineering defense AGAINST large scale social deception (aka deboonking "russian bots" and other "fake news" while providing a "factual narrative").
That is how they do it. We'll just call blatant propaganda "countering propaganda". Slava Ukraini!
 
I was thinking about this for a while now. How many "bullying" cases are a result of said "victim" being such a deviant or disturbance that it makes their peers uncomfortable?
In nature, if you see an ape that is alone you don't assume it was cruelly cast out from its social group for no reason. We don't think of it as the poor victim of bullying. We acknowledge the lone ape is antisocial and potentially dangerous and we keep our distance.
 
I think it’s funny how everyone acts like Russians are masters of propaganda instead of “the US defense/intelligence community has been agitating Russia as a means to maintain promotions during peacetime for 40 years”

I mean fucking Poland has the Witcher and cyberpunk as cultural contributions.. the last stupid game I played that was made in Russia was a King’s Bounty rehash that was worse than the Sega original and basically a flip of stolen Warcraft assets
I shared an apartment with a guy that grew up in the Ukraine during the end of yhe 1st Trump term. He liked him so we'd talk politics and every now and then Ukraine would come up and he'd say the corruption there is so bad and gice examples. When I tried to tell him the US was ebe more corrupt but you just don't realize it he laughed. It makes me wonder what normies like him have to say and think now.
 
I shared an apartment with a guy that grew up in the Ukraine during the end of yhe 1st Trump term. He liked him so we'd talk politics and every now and then Ukraine would come up and he'd say the corruption there is so bad and gice examples. When I tried to tell him the US was ebe more corrupt but you just don't realize it he laughed. It makes me wonder what normies like him have to say and think now.
We had a lot of credibility in the bank, and like everything else, it’s been run into deficit and eventually people decide to practice scrutiny
 
Absolutely still objectionable, but there isn't literally an expenditure just for Large Scale Social Deception. They're justifying it as a defense against Deception. It was funny when I thought LSD was its own item but reality isn't quite that based.

Russians are overrepresented in the modding scene for a lot of (American) 90s PC games. Not that that disproves your point about their lack of soft power...
Gotcha so if I put counter in front of it it justifies what I'm about to do or say and totally makes it really real.

You seem counter intelligent. I'm not saying you're stupid it's just a defense against stupidity
 
All those historically significant photos of George Washington and Ben Franklin.
Getting that picture during the Deleware crossing was fucking hard. They had to just sit in the boat like that for 5min with all those flashes going off before they could finish crossing. They just leave out that part in the books to not embarrass the less social media friendly Hessians.
 
That is how they do it. We'll just call blatant propaganda "countering propaganda". Slava Ukraini!
Anything and everything in the name of defence against the enemy. Honestly this is even more concerning than just open propaganda because it is just more evidence that the feds are in a cold civil war with their own citizens.

Japan takes their service industry very seriously and if you don't speak Japanese they can't provide good service. They can't answer your questions, they can't even understand your questions, and if a problem comes up they have no way of fixing it.
I don't blame them. Aside from the usual ugly American types that travel abroad Japan especially probably gets some of the most annoying and obnoxious tourists ever due to weeb culture.
 
Getting that picture during the Deleware crossing was fucking hard. They had to just sit in the boat like that for 5min with all those flashes going off before they could finish crossing. They just leave out that part in the books to not embarrass the less social media friendly Hessians.
Eight hours minimum, and forty something years later
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