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Should be a wild four years.

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Now I have no idea how Tim recounts Occupy Wall Street now, but I'd like to think that he's savvy enough to know that the Occupy Wall Street protesters undermined themselves with absurd organizational practices (progressive stack, mic check, etc.) and especially power-hungry cliques of activists. It really doesn't take paid plants to accomplish this. Such events are naturally attractive to Leftist activists who are crazy, greedy, and self-destructive all on their own.
Tim recounts Occupy Wall Street with lots of bad actors who infiltrated the movement. Tim will still occasionally talk about it if it comes up on conversation. He'll go on a tangent every now and again about it during livestreams. He believes it was very effective in scaring the big establishment. Tim is a special type of sperg though and he's the fate many libertarians found themselves in. I don't think you really understand Tim Pool unless you have some kind of grasp on the world he grew up in. The political landscape was very different and the left was far less unified than it is today. Everyone had different lines and views they would die on and nobody wanted to adhere to any labels. Everyone was differing degrees of centrist because being on the left or right was seen as extremist and was a social no-no. You didn't refer to yourself as a conservative or leftist like you do today.

On another side note, since I feel like PLing today apparently, during the end of my college days, I was offered a lot of extra credit and an entire expenses paid flight by one of my professors to fly out to Occupy Wall Street and see if I could film and talk with people. I know people who did go but I never asked them too much about it. Thankfully for me I was busy with other things and couldn't make it. I missed getting my ass beat and tear gassed because the day I would've arrived was the day they broke that shit up. Nowadays I probably wouldn't have ever gone because I fucking hate hippies and apparently it was a lot of hippies.
 
They saw that shit as dirty jobs that were beneath them so they were all too happy to fuck the miners over.
I think it's pretty common for everyone to not understand the absolute SCALE of things, but liberals have it real bad. They're unable to understand that "1 million coal jobs" concentrated in a few regions is death for those regions, because where they're used to, a million jobs is spread over multiple industries, and people flow between them relatively easily.

And so they ALWAYS end up trying to smother a dying industry when they could just leave it for 10-20 more years, and the people who worked it would retire away, and their kids would work something else somewhere else.

But boiling frogs is not on their menu, it's too damn slow.
Tim recounts Occupy Wall Street with lots of bad actors who infiltrated the movement.
The key was bringing in intersectionality or whatever. If Bernie Sanders is ranting about the 1% and wages sucking ass, he's going to get way more support than if you force him to also list of ten thousand other liberal causes, like troon balloons or whatever.

Any single issue group has tremendous power as long as they stay focused and single-issue, because they can pick up people from both sides. They can't win political office, but they can definitely shape the discussion. And the way to attack them is to make the group become a multi-issue group, which means they just become part of a political party, and lose their grassroots support.
 
Now I have no idea how Tim recounts Occupy Wall Street now, but I'd like to think that he's savvy enough to know that the Occupy Wall Street protesters undermined themselves with absurd organizational practices (progressive stack, mic check, etc.) and especially power-hungry cliques of activists. It really doesn't take paid plants to accomplish this. Such events are naturally attractive to Leftist activists who are crazy, greedy, and self-destructive all on their own.
I agree that it didn’t take paid plants to HAVE a protest or to be retarded, and I only mentioned Tim Pool to serve as an example of a person who has a quasi religious devotion to making the banks out to be the “master vampire” because it means he doesn’t have to soul search and admit he was a useful idiot who was unquestioningly on the same team as the banks via the democrat party.

Being a ground level democrat, you display a fuckton of cognitive dissonance where your brain just shuts down when you’re asked why you voted for the same people Jaimie Dimon voted for. “Jaimie Dimon is bad, he must have…” what, bought off the politician you voted for? Then maybe you shouldn’t have voted for them!
 
Civil war. No one would trust the "official story" that the Trump shooter worked alone, no one would buy the shibboleths about peace from Democrats who spent the previous 8 years sperging about insurrections, and liberals in general would not be able to hide their gloating.
I don't disagree, but i don't think it would be one huge group, maybe a couple militias or just a lot of general mayhem and guerilla shit.
 
All the evidence sure does point to that, he has a justified self righteous anger too. He seems driven by it, and it's not some loud shouty thing, it's just determination.
Even if you drop Trump down to "vain asshole who cares what he'll be written down in history as" you can still explain 45 and 47. 45 he goes in thinking he can do some fixes, everyone will see it's better, and love him. Win. That didn't occur.

And events leading up to 47 have made him realize there's no need to play nice, just ram as much though as fast as you can and at a minimum, you'll go down in history.

The above is why I think he's way more onboard increasing US territory than people realize. The first country to realize this will have a huge step up, if they want it.
 
Ms. Bondi is already getting to work -
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The Trump administration has filed suit against the state of Illinois, Cook County and the city of Chicago, arguing their sanctuary laws “interfere” with Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s ability to arrest and deport illegal migrants — the first of many such lawsuits to come, Justice Department officials told The Post. The suit singles out several state and local laws that the Justice Department identifies as inhibiting the federal government’s ability to enforce US immigration law. “We’ve identified Illinois, the city of Chicago and Cook County as all having laws and ordinances on the books that impede federal immigration enforcement, in particular the Chicago Welcoming ordinance, the Illinois Trust Act,” a DOJ official said.
Both cited ordinances directly reference tying the hands of federal immigration officials. The Illinois Trust Act, signed into law in 2017, reads in part that “State law does not currently grant State or local law enforcement the authority to enforce federal civil immigration laws.” Chicago’s Welcoming City ordinance, passed in 2012 by then-Mayor Rahm Emanuel, includes even more emphatic language, stating, “No agency or agent shall: arrest, detain or continue to detain a person solely on the belief that the person is not present legally in the United States,” among other provisions.
According to the suit, the local laws contradict federal laws that “prohibit state and local governments from refusing to share information,” as well as “restrict local governments from sharing immigration information with federal law enforcement officials,” which it claims prevents ICE and the Department of Homeland Security from identifying “individuals who may be subject to removal.” The suit also notes that the named jurisdictions “refuse to cooperate with detainers,” adding, “so instead of handing over people who are in prison or in jail to federal immigration authorities they will just let folks go.” The official goes on to call the ongoing illegal immigration crackdown “an all-hands-on-deck approach” to supporting President Trump’s immigration priorities, adding that the lawsuit itself is “one tool in our toolbelt” to ensuring the laws are enforced.
Bondi, meanwhile, warned the leaders of other progressive sanctuary cities that “you will be next.” “For too long, leaders in Illinois and Chicago have abused their power by putting the comfort of illegal aliens over the safety and welfare of their own citizens. This ends today. The Department of Justice will no longer stand by as state and local leaders obstruct federal law enforcement efforts, endangering their citizens and the brave men and women in uniform,” Bondi said in a statement to The Post. “If you are a leader of a state or local jurisdiction that obstructs or impedes federal law enforcement, you will be next.”The Justice official also said the department is gearing up to pursue additional legal action aimed at forcing compliance with federal law. “I don’t think this will be the last one that we file.”
 
This has been a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad few weeks for the Democrats.

The USAID thing blowing up is just incredible. The Dems were right: The system is rigged for some people-- they've rigged it for themselves but have decided to pit Americans against each other so that they could continue this criminal behavior in the shadows.

I'm believer of things happening for a reason. Yes, the 2020 Election was rigged as hell and the Biden Administration was a fucking nightmare ... But if that had not happened, then we wouldn't be getting this "scorched Earth" version of Trump right now.

All the Democrats had to do was to let Trump have his second term 4 years ago, and none of this would be happening right now. lol.
 
If the point is to root out grift -- and I genuinely believe it is -- people like Anita are fun to laugh at but ultimately the wrong target. Any decent grifter right now is shutting down their DEI-themed shell companies and opening up brand new Jesus-themed shell companies.

Real grifters are creating fake anti-abortion charities and using the money to go to Margaritaville and start weed companies. They're enrolling fake students in charter schools and yelling "I love bonuses" while they drink champagne. They're selling fake Bibles to pay for online gambling and diamonds.

If the right wants to do better than the left here, the focus needs to be illegitimate use of funds for good purposes instead of legitimate uses of funds for bad purposes.
 
They are on /r/atheism right now. Total meltdown. I'd archive it but I'm currently busy.
r/Atheism is funny because they are now outraged that Trump is ending sanctuary protection on ICE enforcement against religious sites.

But in any other case, they would object religious sites being treated with deference by the government.
 
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